Russia Develops Own THAAD-like, GMD-like Missile Defense Systems

[Hindustani78]

Nobody solves internal problems by destroying the state. Gorbachev once confessed that he sought to destroy communism. His guilt in the destruction of the Union is 100%.

USSR was disintegrated because of the internal power politics and economy , When Gorbachev was elected his goal was to revive the soviet economy which was impossible and disintegration of USSR was not his fault and just one person cant be blame when the whole system was impossible to revive.

New Russia - Russian land and land of Russian-speaking people. New Russia - historically constituted community built in Russian language, the heroism of the Russian army, Russian culture, Russian science and Russian Orthodox Church. On this basis, we believe absolutely legitimate that the criminal regime in Kiev, built on different values, can not represent our interests.

Therefore, the only way that seems right - to seek independence from the criminal fascist regime of Kiev and re-connect our fate with Russia, which is our Mother and our Motherland.

So now this New Russia is using this Russian language, Russian culture and Russian Church according you ? is it just limited up to Ukraine or even in all the Ex SSR ?

I don't understand how you are defining Russia Motherland ?

 

[vostok]

USSR was disintegrated because of the internal power politics and economy , When Gorbachev was elected his goal was to revive the soviet economy which was impossible and disintegration of USSR was not his fault and just one person cant be blame when the whole system was impossible to revive.




So now this New Russia is using this Russian language, Russian culture and Russian Church according you ? is it just limited up to Ukraine or even in all the Ex SSR ?

I don't understand how you are defining Russia Motherland ?

China was in much worse position in 80s than the USSR. However, due to the fact that China did not let the traitors to come to power, they brilliantly reformed. In the USSR was Gorbachev who was not reforming, but destroyed the country.
When you look at the map and see the border between Ukraine, Russia and Belarus, then it seems that it has always been. However, these boundaries - is the Berlin Wall of the day. In fact - Belarussians (White Russians), Ukrainians (Little Russians) and Russians (Great Russians) - one people. Until 1917, all of them were written in the documents as Russians. Local dialects were considered dialects of the Russian language.
For me, Motherland - the entire Soviet Union. However, three Russian countries should necessarily be reunited. A New Russia should be separated from the Ukraine anyway.
Novorossia always used the Russian language, Russian literature, Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian science, since the land was created by Russia in the late 18th century. I will write again, maybe you will understand after all - was created BY RUSSIA. THIS IS RUSSIA.
All of the cities of New Russia were founded by Russian Tsars or nobles. ALL OF THEM. These are Russian cities, where Russian people live and speak Russian.
Our land was included into the Ukrainian Soviet Republic for some communist reasons. But Ukrainian Soviet Republic is long gone. Hence, it's time to restore our identity and unity with Russia.

 

[Hindustani78]

China was in much worse position in 80s than the USSR. However, due to the fact that China did not let the traitors to come to power, they brilliantly reformed. In the USSR was Gorbachev who was not reforming, but destroyed the country.

Chinese have adopted a different type of system and thats why it is still working where as in USSR , system was having loopholes and blaming it on Gorbachev would be completely wrong. He came in power in 1985 and within 1 year the problem was visible all over USSR.

When you look at the map and see the border between Ukraine, Russia and Belarus, then it seems that it has always been. However, these boundaries - is the Berlin Wall of the day. In fact - Belarussians (White Russians), Ukrainians (Little Russians) and Russians (Great Russians) - one people. Until 1917, all of them were written in the documents as Russians. Local dialects were considered dialects of the Russian language.
For me, Motherland - the entire Soviet Union. However, three Russian countries should necessarily be reunited. A New Russia should be separated from the Ukraine anyway.

This type of logic is irrevelant because if this would be true then Ukraine, Russian Federation and Belarus would be single state but the fact is this that Russian Federation worked for the disintegration of USSR and made Ukraine to give up Nuclear weapons.

Novorossia always used the Russian language, Russian literature, Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian science, since the land was created by Russia in the late 18th century. I will write again, maybe you will understand after all - was created BY RUSSIA. THIS IS RUSSIA.

Are you saying that Russia federation would be expanded on the basis of the Orthodox Church ? If this thing would be adopted by the Russian Federation then it would start showdown with Catholics, Lutheran, Protestants and Baptists etc.

All of the cities of New Russia were founded by Russian Tsars or nobles. ALL OF THEM. These are Russian cities, where Russian people live and speak Russian.

Are you saying that other nations haven't contributed in the development of USSR ?

Our land was included into the Ukrainian Soviet Republic for some communist reasons. But Ukrainian Soviet Republic is long gone. Hence, it's time to restore our identity and unity with Russia.

Do you have any map to show how big is the land which you consider that its your land ? Does Russian Federation is having such claims ?

 

[vostok]

Chinese have adopted a different type of system and thats why it is still working where as in USSR , system was having loopholes and blaming it on Gorbachev would be completely wrong. He came in power in 1985 and within 1 year the problem was visible all over USSR.



This type of logic is irrevelant because if this would be true then Ukraine, Russian Federation and Belarus would be single state but the fact is this that Russian Federation worked for the disintegration of USSR and made Ukraine to give up Nuclear weapons.




Are you saying that Russia federation would be expanded on the basis of the Orthodox Church ? If this thing would be adopted by the Russian Federation then it would start showdown with Catholics, Lutheran, Protestants and Baptists etc.




Are you saying that other nations haven't contributed in the development of USSR ?




Do you have any map to show how big is the land which you consider that its your land ? Does Russian Federation is having such claims ?

Russia has no territorial claims to anybody of her neighbors. However, the peoples of independent states, such as Transdniestria, New Russia (partially occupied by Ukraine), Abkhazia, South Ossetia willing to once again become a part of Russia. Belarus is actually part of Russia, as there is a Union State of Russia and Belarus.
So, no claims. Quite the contrary - Russia does not allow to different states become part of Russia for political reasons.
Gorbachev not only guilty in the collapse of the USSR, he ruined the socialist states of the world, except Cuba and Vietnam. His guilt is absolute, 100%. The USSR had problems, but the problem is always and everywhere. In the US in the '80s was generally severe crisis. In Britain, too.

 

[Hindustani78]

Russia has no territorial claims to anybody of her neighbors. However, the peoples of independent states, such as Transdniestria, New Russia (partially occupied by Ukraine), Abkhazia, South Ossetia willing to once again become a part of Russia.

Russian Federation doesn't want NATO countries surrounding its borders where as the Ex SSR Republics are afraid of Russian Federation after the events in Georgia and now Ukraine.

Belarus is actually part of Russia, as there is a Union State of Russia and Belarus.

Belarus leader arrives in Kyiv and meets President Poroshenko - watch on - uatoday.tv

Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko has held talks in Ukrainian capital Kyiv with Ukraine's President Petro Poroshenko.

According to the Ukrainian president's press secretary, Poroshenko thanked Lukashenko for supporting the territorial integrity of Ukraine and for not recognising elections held in areas of east Ukraine occupied by Russian-backed insurgents.

So, no claims. Quite the contrary - Russia does not allow to different states become part of Russia for political reasons.
Gorbachev not only guilty in the collapse of the USSR, he ruined the socialist states of the world, except Cuba and Vietnam. His guilt is absolute, 100%. The USSR had problems, but the problem is always and everywhere. In the US in the '80s was generally severe crisis. In Britain, too.

Gorbachev when elected in 1985 , USSR was already facing enormous problems from corruption because of which the economy was devastated and the war in Afghanistan and the events in East Germany etc and East Germany Army was the most powerful in all the warsaw pact states. Fall of Berlin wall was like the final nail.

 

[vostok]

Russian Federation doesn't want NATO countries surrounding its borders where as the Ex SSR Republics are afraid of Russian Federation after the events in Georgia and now Ukraine.



Belarus leader arrives in Kyiv and meets President Poroshenko - watch on - uatoday.tv

Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko has held talks in Ukrainian capital Kyiv with Ukraine's President Petro Poroshenko.

According to the Ukrainian president's press secretary, Poroshenko thanked Lukashenko for supporting the territorial integrity of Ukraine and for not recognising elections held in areas of east Ukraine occupied by Russian-backed insurgents.




Gorbachev when elected in 1985 , USSR was already facing enormous problems from corruption because of which the economy was devastated and the war in Afghanistan and the events in East Germany etc and East Germany Army was the most powerful in all the warsaw pact states. Fall of Berlin wall was like the final nail.

Who told you that someone from the former Soviet republics is afraid of Russia? Most of the residents are well aware that the West is aggressor, not Russia. Ordinary people want revival of the great Union, even without socialism, just in the form of economic union.
The Soviet Union have had no problems that can not be solved by proper reforms, by type of Chinese. Instead, Judas Gorbachev simply destroyed the country.
Russia has no territorial claims to any of its neighbors.
New Russia - is Russian land. Local residents who have taken up arms to protect themselves and their children from the forced Ukrainianization clearly confirmed this. The junta has no right to the land from Odessa to Kharkov. Temporarily occupied lands of New Russia will sooner or later be liberated from the Nazi government Junta. New Russia will be free and reunited in one form or another with the Motherland - that is, with Russia.

 

[AMDR]

Who told you that someone from the former Soviet republics is afraid of Russia? Most of the residents are well aware that the West is aggressor, not Russia. Ordinary people want revival of the great Union, even without socialism, just in the form of economic union.

Every person I've talked to from the baltics is anti-Russian to the core. Poles too, although they weren't an SSR. Just an observation, not trying to argue.

 

[vostok]

Every person I've talked to from the baltics is anti-Russian to the core. Poles too, although they weren't an SSR. Just an observation, not trying to argue.

Baltics is just some kind of joke, and not the states. Once Russia bought the lands from Sweden for five million silver thaler.
The population of the region since 1991 has decreased by 25% and continues rapidly to decline.

 

[Hindustani78]

Who told you that someone from the former Soviet republics is afraid of Russia? Most of the residents are well aware that the West is aggressor, not Russia. Ordinary people want revival of the great Union, even without socialism, just in the form of economic union.

If its the case then why Ex Soviet Republics have joined EU and become part of NATO by holding referendum ? These countries wants to be Independent .

The Soviet Union have had no problems that can not be solved by proper reforms, by type of Chinese. Instead, Judas Gorbachev simply destroyed the country.

Corruption was wide spread because of which the whole system collapsed and these things were hurting the Soviets even before Gorbachev become President.

Russia has no territorial claims to any of its neighbors.

You wrote by yourself that you want to see that the Union should be revive again

New Russia - is Russian land. Local residents who have taken up arms to protect themselves and their children from the forced Ukrainianization clearly confirmed this. The junta has no right to the land from Odessa to Kharkov. Temporarily occupied lands of New Russia will sooner or later be liberated from the Nazi government Junta. New Russia will be free and reunited in one form or another with the Motherland - that is, with Russia.

Local Resident raising arms is not as easy as you are trying to say. For that huge money is involved and weapons are smuggled etc. And in fact civilians cant fight wars and basically those who fight like militia and mercenaries , those people do go through short training given by professionals.

Every person I've talked to from the baltics is anti-Russian to the core. Poles too, although they weren't an SSR. Just an observation, not trying to argue.

Those people don't want to negotiate their sovereignty and wants to be independent.

Baltics is just some kind of joke, and not the states. Once Russia bought the lands from Sweden for five million silver thaler.
The population of the region since 1991 has decreased by 25% and continues rapidly to decline.

These countries are even effected by the economic crisis but as the western Europe doors are opened for them , they are not having better life but still they need to embrace people from other nations.

 

[vostok]

If its the case then why Ex Soviet Republics have joined EU and become part of NATO by holding referendum ? These countries wants to be Independent .




Corruption was wide spread because of which the whole system collapsed and these things were hurting the Soviets even before Gorbachev become President.




You wrote by yourself that you want to see that the Union should be revive again




Local Resident raising arms is not as easy as you are trying to say. For that huge money is involved and weapons are smuggled etc. And in fact civilians cant fight wars and basically those who fight like militia and mercenaries , those people do go through short training given by professionals.



Those people don't want to negotiate their sovereignty and wants to be independent.

Let me tell you some history facts aboutNovorossia. History of biggest cities. (Google translate)
Kharkov - Russian city. It was built in 1630-ies. on-site (within the walls) ancient settlement Kharkov sometimes identified as Kipchak city of XI century Sharukan or Hun city of V century Kharkov. There settled Poles fleeing from the right bank of the Dnieper Little Russians. Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich built a castle and founded in 1656 the Kharkov province.
The founder of the city of Sumy considered Colonel Gerasim Kondratyev who came here, to the territory of the Russian state in 1655 with a group of Cossacks resettled from the village Stavishche Belotserkovsky Regiment. Moscow allowed Cossacks to settle here (document 1656 .: "Kirill Arsenyev ordered by Ukraine's Tatar settlement Sumin city re-building"), and they have for years 1656-1658 to build a fortress.
Forts and settlement on the site of the present Poltava in the IX century were settled by Slavic tribes northerners, but almost completely ruined and destroyed by the Tatars in the XIII century. Later Poltava before the uprising and the Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky (XVII century) was a challenge prize at the Lithuanian-Polish princes and the Crimean Tatars. After the Great Northern War between Russia and Sweden (1700 - 1721) the town was annexed to the Russian Empire, became a city of Russian glory and had the opportunity to actively develop.
Dnipropetrovsk was founded by Catherine II in 1776 and was called Ekaterinoslav.
Lugansk was founded in 1795 when Catherine II founded on the river Lugan ironworks. To work on it in Lugansk came to live come from the central and north-western provinces of Russia.
Kherson. June 18, 1778 Catherine II signed a decree on the basis of the fortress and shipyard and already 19 October 1778 laid the fortress, shipyard and the city, known as Kherson. Founder of the city, and later its governor-general was a favorite of the Empress Catherine II, the famous statesman and military leader Grigory Potemkin.
Donetsk until 1923 the city was named after the founder of Yuzivka city - businessman John Hughes (Hughes, Hughes). Founded by Alexander II in 1869 during the construction of the metallurgical plant.
Nikolaev was founded by Prince Grigory Potemkin decree in 1789 and was named in memory of the victory achieved in 1788 by Russian troops - the capture of the Turkish fortress Ochakov on the day of St. Nicholas the patron saint of sailors.
Odessa. In the Middle Ages the territory of Odessa was in the possession of various nomadic tribes (Pechenegs Polovtsian), the Golden Horde, the Crimean Khanate, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, and the Ottoman Empire. The official history of the city of Odessa as a count made from 1794-year [6], when on May 27 (June 7) in 1794 Empress Catherine II issued a rescript of the founding of the city and harbor on the spot Hadjibeyan and August 22 (September 2) in 1794 after the prayer service and sanctification construction sites were scored in the first pile foundation of the city. Build cities on the plan drawn up by the colonel of the Russian army Franz Devolanom.
Simferopol was founded by Catherine II in 1784. It was built on the site of Potemkin Suvorov military camp and near the Tatar settlement.
Sevastopol was founded by Catherine II in 1783 on the site of a fortress built earlier Suvorov. Built the city Potemkin.
Mariupol was founded in 1778 by Catherine II. She settled there the Greeks - migrants from the Crimea.
Krivoy Rog was founded by Catherine II in 1775.
Zaporozhye was founded by Catherine II in 1770 and until 1921 was called Alexander.
Kirovograd was founded in 1754 by Russian Empress Elizabeth. It was called Elizabethgrad.
In the form of the Eurasian Union will be restored economic ties of the former Soviet republics. Russia does not claim their territory.
As you know, Russia is in no hurry to agree to the requests of independent states, such as Transnistria, Abkhazia, New Russia, South Ossetia about to take them to the Russian Federation.
Temporarily occupied territories of New Russia will sooner or later be free from the Ukrainian occupation.
I am sure that separated peoples of New Russia and Russia eventually restore historical justice and unite, as it was in the case of Crimea.

 

[Hindustani78]

Let me tell you some history facts aboutNovorossia. History of biggest cities. (Google translate)
Kharkov - Russian city. It was built in 1630-ies. on-site (within the walls) ancient settlement Kharkov sometimes identified as Kipchak city of XI century Sharukan or Hun city of V century Kharkov. There settled Poles fleeing from the right bank of the Dnieper Little Russians. Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich built a castle and founded in 1656 the Kharkov province.
The founder of the city of Sumy considered Colonel Gerasim Kondratyev who came here, to the territory of the Russian state in 1655 with a group of Cossacks resettled from the village Stavishche Belotserkovsky Regiment. Moscow allowed Cossacks to settle here (document 1656 .: "Kirill Arsenyev ordered by Ukraine's Tatar settlement Sumin city re-building"), and they have for years 1656-1658 to build a fortress.
Forts and settlement on the site of the present Poltava in the IX century were settled by Slavic tribes northerners, but almost completely ruined and destroyed by the Tatars in the XIII century. Later Poltava before the uprising and the Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky (XVII century) was a challenge prize at the Lithuanian-Polish princes and the Crimean Tatars. After the Great Northern War between Russia and Sweden (1700 - 1721) the town was annexed to the Russian Empire, became a city of Russian glory and had the opportunity to actively develop.
Dnipropetrovsk was founded by Catherine II in 1776 and was called Ekaterinoslav.
Lugansk was founded in 1795 when Catherine II founded on the river Lugan ironworks. To work on it in Lugansk came to live come from the central and north-western provinces of Russia.
Kherson. June 18, 1778 Catherine II signed a decree on the basis of the fortress and shipyard and already 19 October 1778 laid the fortress, shipyard and the city, known as Kherson. Founder of the city, and later its governor-general was a favorite of the Empress Catherine II, the famous statesman and military leader Grigory Potemkin.
Donetsk until 1923 the city was named after the founder of Yuzivka city - businessman John Hughes (Hughes, Hughes). Founded by Alexander II in 1869 during the construction of the metallurgical plant.
Nikolaev was founded by Prince Grigory Potemkin decree in 1789 and was named in memory of the victory achieved in 1788 by Russian troops - the capture of the Turkish fortress Ochakov on the day of St. Nicholas the patron saint of sailors.
Odessa. In the Middle Ages the territory of Odessa was in the possession of various nomadic tribes (Pechenegs Polovtsian), the Golden Horde, the Crimean Khanate, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, and the Ottoman Empire. The official history of the city of Odessa as a count made from 1794-year [6], when on May 27 (June 7) in 1794 Empress Catherine II issued a rescript of the founding of the city and harbor on the spot Hadjibeyan and August 22 (September 2) in 1794 after the prayer service and sanctification construction sites were scored in the first pile foundation of the city. Build cities on the plan drawn up by the colonel of the Russian army Franz Devolanom.
Simferopol was founded by Catherine II in 1784. It was built on the site of Potemkin Suvorov military camp and near the Tatar settlement.
Sevastopol was founded by Catherine II in 1783 on the site of a fortress built earlier Suvorov. Built the city Potemkin.
Mariupol was founded in 1778 by Catherine II. She settled there the Greeks - migrants from the Crimea.
Krivoy Rog was founded by Catherine II in 1775.
Zaporozhye was founded by Catherine II in 1770 and until 1921 was called Alexander.
Kirovograd was founded in 1754 by Russian Empress Elizabeth. It was called Elizabethgrad.
In the form of the Eurasian Union will be restored economic ties of the former Soviet republics. Russia does not claim their territory.
As you know, Russia is in no hurry to agree to the requests of independent states, such as Transnistria, Abkhazia, New Russia, South Ossetia about to take them to the Russian Federation.
Temporarily occupied territories of New Russia will sooner or later be free from the Ukrainian occupation.
I am sure that separated peoples of New Russia and Russia eventually restore historical justice and unite, as it was in the case of Crimea.

Why on the first place Russian Federation worked with EX SSR republics for the disintegration of USSR ? Was all about a treaty with United States on the reduction of Nuclear Weapons because of which Ukraine gave up its Nuclear weapons and got annexed after 25 years ?

 

[vostok]

Why on the first place Russian Federation worked with EX SSR republics for the disintegration of USSR ? Was all about a treaty with United States on the reduction of Nuclear Weapons because of which Ukraine gave up its Nuclear weapons and got annexed after 25 years ?

Ukraine ceased to exist for the people of New Russia after the terrible burning people in Odessa on May 2. After this ritual act the Junta has no moral right to govern in the free New Russia.
The struggle for freedom and independence continues and people honestly believe that a just war ended in complete victory and the entire territory of New Russia will be united and independent. Then we will be able to build our own destiny as we want, rather than on orders from Washington, as does the junta.

 

[Hindustani78]

Ukraine ceased to exist for the people of New Russia after the terrible burning people in Odessa on May 2. After this ritual act the Junta has no moral right to govern in the free New Russia.
The struggle for freedom and independence continues and people honestly believe that a just war ended in complete victory and the entire territory of New Russia will be united and independent. Then we will be able to build our own destiny as we want, rather than on orders from Washington, as does the junta.

Problem is going on between Ukraine and Russian Federation since a very long time in the shape of gas crisis and Ukraine was using Black Sea Port as an guarantee for continue gas deliveries and Russian Federation did used gas as a weapon against Ukraine and now things are in front of all of this.

I don't think if Ukraine would have Nuclear weapons , Crimea would have never annexed nor Ukraine would lost its regions.

 

[vostok]

Problem is going on between Ukraine and Russian Federation since a very long time in the shape of gas crisis and Ukraine was using Black Sea Port as an guarantee for continue gas deliveries and Russian Federation did used gas as a weapon against Ukraine and now things are in front of all of this.

I don't think if Ukraine would have Nuclear weapons , Crimea would have never annexed nor Ukraine would lost its regions.

I do not care about the problems of Ukraine. I am care about the problems of New Russia. I care that the price of freedom and independence of my people - thousands of lifes. This is the lifes of the best sons of my country, the color of the nation.
Ukraine could be a friend to Crimea and to New Russia, but it chose to be the enemy. Ukraine does not know the price of independence, because it received it as a gift, free of charge.
The Bolsheviks made Novorossia part of Ukraine expecting that Ukraine will always be part of a common state with Russia. If Ukraine wants its own way, individual way - then let the lands be returned to their Motherland.

 

[Sage]

Indian technology is due to Russian assistance

And that the only difference is that Chinese copies are excellent than Indian ones !