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Russia could deliver S-300 air defense missile system to Iran only with a new contract.

@yavar you have improved in writing skills such significantly.
keep up the good work man, :tup: who knows, you might become a famous writer in couple of years bro.
thanks brother for your kind word . i am only doing my best to end this delusion and nonsense which some Iranian members have and in same time defending my country which been under attack since 35 years
 
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yavar

Talash 3 system, which will be unveiled within 10 days, is compareable with S-300 PMU-2?
If so, why Iran even consider to resolve this deal?

Lets say Iran will get the S-300 PMU2, the system/programming/components will be downgraded/manipulated or compromised, and who knows, maybe russians will hand over the algorythm codes to Isreal if needed.

Just put the money in own R&D, own systems, own programming/algorythm....

Lets hope Iran will get at least the money which was payd ahead (800 Mln $), with such huge amounut of money Iran will create Air Defence Beasts...

Maybe in near future (10-15 years) Iran will be coequal with Russia in Air Defence..
Now Russia is unbeatable...
 
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Sayyad-3 has a range of more than 200km. The only thing Iran was lacking when it came to surface to air missile was range and that has been solved now. We have sayyad-3/talash 3, sadid 630 and bavar.

What Iran needs now is anti ballistic missile systems. Thus, we need to purchase a system which can help us develop in this sector. As far as other surface to air missile are concerned, Iran has everything now. It's just a matter of mass production now.
 
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when ?? stop making thing up . Iran had to take it to court and Russia lost lawsuit and had to pay fine of 4 million and up to now Russia has not paid Iran sh@t .
show us bit proof in what you say i can guarantee you can't come up with one


will see i hope u when they show it in action you will not start coming with excuse it does not work it is fake or it is plastic
I thought they had paid it back based on what I read on the forum. So they haven't paid back the original sum Iran paid them? You sure?
 
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I thought they had paid it back based on what I read on the forum. So they haven't paid back the original sum Iran paid them? You sure?
They already paid back the original sum Iran paid them in many years ago, but penalties are not paid. Instead of paying penalties, Russia has offered to sell newer air defense system like Antey-2500, but rumors say that Iran has said that we are no longer interested in S-300 or its equivalents, and want something more advanced like S-400.
 
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They already paid back the original sum Iran paid them in many years ago, but penalties are not paid. Instead of paying penalties, Russia has offered to sell newer air defense system like Antey-2500, but rumors say that Iran has said that we are no longer interested in S-300 or its equivalents, and want something more advanced like S-400.
Well that's kind of what I said and @yavar went hezbollah on me lol
 
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Russia has publicly announced that it is willing to sell Iran one of the world's most advanced air defense systems after a 5-year hiatus.

Although a nuclear deal has yet to be reached with Iran and embargoes remain in place, Moscow has announced that it is ready to send the S-300 air defense system to Tehran.

If the deal goes through, Iran would have an extremely capable air defense system that could deter the threat of force against Iranian military facilities.

The following Reuters graphic depicts how the S-300 system works. In 2013, Russia delivered the defense system to Syria, which contributed to deterring Western intervention in the country.

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The S-300 is comprised of four road-mobile vehicle classes that work in tandem to detect and destroy aircraft. The missile launcher vehicles have a range of about 93 miles, can fire at multiple targets, and can down aircraft flying as high as 90,000 feet.

Iran's acquisition of S-300 systems would be “a complete game changer for all fourth-gen aircraft [like the F-15, F-16 and F/A-18]. That thing is a beast and you don’t want to get near it,” a senior US Marine Corps aviator told The Daily Beast.

If delivered, the systems would render Iran's air defenses nearly impenetrable against all but the most advanced US aircraft.

The S-300 "essentially makes Iran attack-proof by Israel and almost any country without fifth-gen [stealth fighter] capabilities. In other words, Iran, with the S-300, can continue to do what they want once those systems are in place without fear of attack from anyone save the US," a senior Air Force commander told The Daily Beast.
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Basically, the existence of the S-300s would make any military action against Iran extremely difficult and costly — even for the US Military. As the systems are mobile, the US would have difficulty targeting the systems themselves while non-stealth jets would not be able to operate safely over Iran.

The delivery of the system would mitigate the threat of military action against Tehran in case of breaches in the nuclear agreement off the table.

Simultaneously, the weapons deal could lead to a greater axis of cooperation between Russia and Iran throughout the wider Middle East while providing Russia with some much needed money as sanctions continue to wreck the economy.

"The Kremlin is willing to treat the nuclear agreement as a done deal, at least when it comes to unlocking an $800m arms deal at a time when the Russian economy is hurting," Mark Galeotti, a New York University professor specializing on Russia, told Business Insider. "Besides which, it allows Moscow to prove itself a good friend."

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If Iran gets S-300 then like always Israel will make objections and this will led for the F 35 sell to Israel. By the way Syria got S 300 in 2013 according to this article.

So how many S 300 , Syria is having ? and How many Iran is going to get , the same 2007 Agreement ?

In 2010, under Western pressure, Russia suspended a 2007 agreement to sell five S-300 batteries to Iran under a contract then reported to be worth some $800 million.

Russia has said recently that it offered Iran an updated version of the S-300, its latest Antey-2500 missile defense system.
 
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Iran to Receive Modernized Version of Russian S-300 Missile Defense Systems / Sputnik International
Moscow will deliver modernized versions of the S-300 missile defense systems, Iranian Defense Minister Hossein Dehghan told RIA Novosti on Friday.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Iran would receive S-300 systems that were more modern than the those agreed on in the original contract, the Iranian minister said.

“It should be noted that the Russian side has included some definite improvements to the system that we need to learn from the technical point of view.”

Dehghan said that no additional Russian specialists would be needed since all of the Iranian specialists working with the system had already gone through training.

“The necessary training skills for using this system were held during the previous contract so we don’t need to invite any [Russian] consultants to give instructions on using this system,” he added.
 
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now that the Russians will be supplying the S300s after all ?

@SOHEIL @haman10 @yavar @Serpentine

Russians will never supply Iran with S300 system so your question is not valid .

Israeli leadership; they have the right to do what they consider appropriate. I think it is counterproductive, if it concerns lethal weapons, because it will only lead to yet another swirl of confrontation, to more human casualties, but the result will be the same,” Putin said in an interview on Rossiya 1 TV on Saturday.
Israel has been upset by Russia’s decision last week to lift its five-year ban on the sale of the S-300 anti-missile system to Iran and to deliver those weapons by the end of 2015.


Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine - Middle East - Jerusalem Post
 
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US Air Force Colonel: Russia's sale of advanced anti-aircraft missiles to Iran is a game-changer - Business Insider

  • Apr. 20, 2015, 10:54 AM
It’s been widely reported that Russian President Vladimir Putin has decided to sell the Russian-made S-300 missile system to Iran. This sale has been planned for years, but it was put on hold in 2010 when the U.N. Security Council adopted Resolution 1929.

Although this resolution did not specifically prohibit the sale of missile systems like the S-300, it did call for all states to “exercise vigilance and restraint” in supplying weapons to Iran. Since then, Russia has refrained from selling these weapons.

Now Russia has changed its mind.

The S-300 is a mobile surface-to-air missile defense system that couples powerful radars with high-speed, long-range missiles. It is capable of shooting down aircraft over a large area (depending on the variant, the lethal engagement zone could be larger than the state of New Jersey, with the detection/tracking zone much larger than that).

In NATO, we refer to this missile system as the SA-10. We have studied it and trained to counter it for years. While we are not scared of it, we respect the S-300 for what it is: a very mobile, accurate, and lethal missile system.

Russia’s decision to sell the S-300 to Iran is a big deal for three reasons:

1. It represents a fundamental shift in military power for the region.
For over a decade, the United States and its allies have been able to take freedom of action in the Middle Eastern skies for granted. Friendly forces could count on air support and freedom of maneuver. Adversaries could assume they were vulnerable to observation and attack from the air, limiting their options and convincing some of them that they could not achieve their objectives through military force (often called deterrence by denial). This was especially true of Iran, whose air defenses have suffered greatly due to sanctions. The arrival of the S-300 changes this.

The S-300 is not a wall in the sky. If we have to, we can attack and defeat it. Doing so, however, requires an effort that is much larger, much riskier, and much more costly.

Recently, we have seen a debate on the scale of a potential attack on Iranian nuclear facilities, with some arguing that it would be relatively limited and others taking an opposing view. With the S-300 in place, there is no debate.

Overcoming this type of system will require a large deployment of air, sea, and land assets, including our most capable — and expensive — airplanes and missiles. Our people and equipment will be at greater risk, and accomplishing the mission will be more difficult and time consuming.

2. It represents a major acceleration in the proliferation of A2/AD systems.
In 2003, Andrew Krepinevich, Barry Watts, and Robert Work warned against the proliferation of threats like the S-300 in a study published by the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Analysis that coined the phrase “Anti-Access/Area-Denial,” or A2/AD.

They argued that states such as Iran and North Korea would acquire capable systems like the S-300, forcing the United States to alter its approach to projecting military power. That day appears to be here.

This is why many officials, including Work — who is now the Deputy Secretary of Defense — have called for the development of new technological approaches to “offset” advanced weapons systems like the S-300. Some have argued that this effort is aimed directly at China, but the proliferation of the S-300 demonstrates how A2/AD environments are spreading.

3. It represents the return to an age of geopolitical competition.
We may not want to go back to the days when every world development had to be viewed in light of a political competition with another great power. It is increasingly clear, however, that Russia sees the world through this lens.

Western sanctions — implemented in response to Russian intervention in Ukraine — have imposed significant costs on the Russian economy and ratcheted up the tension between Russia and the West. It now appears that tension has spilled over into the Iranian situation.

With the upcoming sale of the S-300 to Iran, Russia has found a way to increase our costs dramatically should we deem it necessary to intervene there.

One final observation: The training required to prepare against an S-300 threat is exactly the type that has been so damaged by the sequester cuts of 2013 and the budget caps of 2014/2015.

Recently, Secretary of the Air Force Deborah James stated that half of Air Force combat units are not trained to the level necessary for the “high-end fight.” In light of proliferation developments such as this Russian deal with Iran, that is not a reassuring statistic.
 
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June 02, 14:29 UTC+3
The company will be able to supply the air defense systems to Iran as soon as there's a new contract

MOSCOW, June 2. /TASS/. Russia's leading arms manufacturer Almaz-Antei is prepared to supply S-300 missile systems to Iran, the concern's director general said on Tuesday.

"All restrictions have been liftet. When we have a contract, we will supply S-300 [missiles] to the Republic of Iran," Yan Novikov said.

Russian President Vladimir Putin lifted the ban on the S-300 supplies to Iran in April 2015.

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Russia’s voluntary embargo on deliveries of S-300 missile systems to Iran is no longer needed due to progress in the resolution of the situation around Iran’s nuclear program.

"Initially, the decision to suspend the implementation of the contract, which was already signed and came into force, was made in September 2010," he recalled. "It was done in the interests of support for consolidated efforts of the six international negotiators to stimulate a maximally constructive process of talks on settlement of the situation around Iran’s nuclear program."

The minister particularly stressed that "it was done absolutely voluntarily."

"Resolution 1929 of the Security Council, which was approved in 2010, just like any other UN resolutions did not impose any restrictions on deliveries of air defense weapons to Iran. I will emphasize, it was done in the spirit of goodwill to stimulate progress at the talks," he said.

Russia-Iran S-300 contract
Under the 2007 contract, Moscow was to deliver to Tehran five divisions of the missile systems of medium range worth over $800 million.

The Iranian side paid $166.8 million in advance. However, until mid-2010 the systems were not supplied to Iran.

In September 2010, then-President Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree on measures on implementing the UN Security Council’s resolution 1929 that in particular banned the S-300 supplies to Iran.

The contract was severed and the advance payment was sent back to the Islamic Republic.
 
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How many times is Russia making that statement? I think it is all bogus and Netty boy (aka Netanyahu) has Russia by the balls and they can't deliver any thing without the Netty boy agreeing to it!
 
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How many times is Russia making that statement? I think it is all bogus and Netty boy (aka Netanyahu) has Russia by the balls and they can't deliver any thing without the Netty boy agreeing to it!

S 300 is already placed in Syria,Armenia and on that Russians will put S300 in Iran

 
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TASS: Russia - Supplies of S-300 air defense systems to Iran due soon — Russia FM
June 04, 14:06 UTC+3
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov held talks with his Iranian counterpart Javad Zarif

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MOSCOW, June 3. /TASS/. The supplies of Russia’s S-300 air defense system to Iran is due soon, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told the media following talks with his Iranian counterpart Javad Zarif on Thursday.

Lavrov said that the theme of S-300 systems was not discussed.

"We merely stated that preparations for the delivery are underway and the deal will be effected soon," he said.
In early April, six world powers confirmed significant progress after talks with Iran on the nuclear program in Lausanne, Switzerland. Russian President Vladimir Putin lifted the ban on the S-300 supplies to Iran on April 13.

Iran filed a $4 billion lawsuit against Rosoboronexport in an international arbitration court in Geneva in April 2011 after Russia suspended the 2007 contract on the supplies of S-300 missile systems to Iran.

Under the 2007 contract, Moscow pledged to deliver to Tehran five battalions of medium-range air defense systems S-300 worth $800 million. Iran made an advance payment of $166.8 million. No supplies followed up to the middle of 2010.

In September 2010, Russia’s then-president Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree on measures to implement the UN Security Council’s Resolution 1929 of June 2010 to prohibit the supplies of S-300 to Iran. The contract was annulled and the advance payment was returned to Iran.

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Each launcher vehicle carries four missile containers (two missiles per target). A full battalion includes six launcher vehicles with a total of 24 missiles, plus command-and-control and long-range radar detection vehicles
 
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