Russia, China and Pakistan: An Emerging New Axis?

[Foxtrot-Bravo]

Do you really think Russia will dump India for Pakistan..................

Russia already did dump India.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Russia already did dump India.

 

[Smh12344538]

I thought the Arab/Iran rivalry was bad but oh my God Pakistan/India make us Arabs and Iranians look like best friends lol

 

[GURU DUTT]

I thought the Arab/Iran rivalry was bad but oh my God Pakistan/India make us Arabs and Iranians look like best friends lol

its a sad fact indeed ... isnt it

 

[Smh12344538]

its a sad fact indeed ... isnt it

From someone who is outside this i find it hilarious, some of the insults thrown at each other make my ribs hurt from laughing so much.

 

[Jlaw]

There are only two camps, and each must choose a side. If someone refuses to choose sides - in the world of the future his voice will means nothing.

apathy is death.

 

[Foxtrot-Bravo]

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[untitled]

I prefer the term allies
axis sides get beaten

 

[Donatello]

Why are Indians feeling the pain?

It is just natural, given the location of Pakistan, China and Russia along with Central Asian states would like access to the point right front of Middle-East and Africa. They cannot rely on Iran.

No wonder, Modi has 'Look East' policy.

 

[IBRIS]

Why are Indians feeling the pain?

It is just natural, given the location of Pakistan, China and Russia along with Central Asian states would like access to the point right front of Middle-East and Africa. They cannot rely on Iran.

No wonder, Modi has 'Look East' policy.

No they need money and you don't have any other than taking gifts you are given by the ones who feel pity on you. China's market just collapsed as predicted, now they are on damage control by devaluing there currency. Soon all the gwadar dream is going to drain due to manufacturing exports which they were going to funnel through your new port they built. Russians are just window shopping and they will show you the hand as soon as they see you as a liability. On the other hand Iranians have lot to offer so they will stay as the spoiled child to play with.

 

[Viper0011.]

Russia, China and Pakistan: An Emerging New Axis?
Regional realities are shifting fast, with some significant ramifications for India.

This is where the game is headed. From the little that I've analyzed, researched and read, the new Chinese and Russian strategy is to link their trade system through roads for their local economies to grow, and use local currency. Through this mechanism, smaller Central Russian states would ALSO use the same road and rail link from Eastern Europe to Russia to China and to Pakistan, with Gawader being accessible to all of these countries as needed.

This makes sense for various reasons:

1) China (1.3 billion people), Russia (146 Million people) and Pakistan (200 million people) represents estimated 1.7 Billion people between the three countries. This kind of arrangement if works out, will form the LARGEST economy connected with Rail and Road. The US economy has 330 Million people. Canada has its own system and economy, linked to the US, yet separated.

The European Union is at 510 Million people and they are including countries just to bring in more people from different countries (aka, the consumer base), to increase the number of people making up that economy.

So 1.7 Billion consumer strong economy can make a huge difference for these three countries. ALL connected through short distance, rail travel, road travel and a short, few hours long flight, whether to visit or for freight transportation.

2) The Rail and Road link is coming into the picture primarily because the US (and then add her allies) dominate waters through the USN (primarily). Which means, in a war like scenario, the USN can cause serious problems for the Russian and the Chinese economy and can interrupt goods, oil and freight shipments, to and from these countries.

But having the Rail and Road connectivity deep inside these countries, its away from the USN's reach (not from the US jets obviously). But it still does make a difference in denying access to majority of these ares, deep inside the Chinese or the Russian territories.

3) The Russians and the Chinese have been wanting to bring in another currency (or trade in local currencies). So this deal helps, and they can sustain their economies just by doing business within this block, in case there were sanctions from other countries.

Pakistan becomes a recipient of significant business due to her location and the railroad and highways going through Pakistan, and Gawader being the major port for a huge part of this region (Western China, Central Russian states).

I personally believe that India will change priorities in the next few years (soup-o-powa projections), and will link up to this system heavily. Iran might try to play its regional "power" card as well if the sanctions can be lifted.

But, eventually, Iran will also link up to this system as that country is already pro-Russia, China and India. And such large population will help its commodities, products and services too.

It would be interesting to see how this whole "Great Asian Game" plays out.

 

[IBRIS]

While brick in place and low Chinese devalued currency all you can pray for pakistan is to someone would fulfill your begging bowl or you will be left alone as unwanted child thinking that you were very important part of the game which you never were able to play the game while someone else pressing the controller buttons.

 

[war&peace]

No they need money and you don't have any other than taking gifts you are given by the ones who feel pity on you. China's market just collapsed as predicted, now they are on damage control by devaluing there currency. Soon all the gwadar dream is going to drain due to manufacturing exports which they were going to funnel through your new port they built. Russians are just window shopping and they will show you the hand as soon as they see you as a liability. On the other hand Iranians have lot to offer so they will stay as the spoiled child to play with.

Billi ko chichron ke khawab

 

[IBRIS]

Billi ko chichron ke khawab

Typical one liner bullshit, that's all you could say. Truth makes you cry but you'd rather laugh to hide cry baby face

 

[war&peace]

Typical one liner bullshit, that's all you could say. Truth makes you cry but you'd rather laugh to hide cry baby face

When a hand gun does the job , why should I bring my machine gun out your comments have no logical substance buddy. It is just filled with bullshit of a jealous guy who can't face the reality of the future.