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Muslim shall stop using the religion factor for their own political goal. They need to separate religion from political clout.

the US , Israel ,the UK , France all together attack on real muslim leaders for destroying them and to find puppet leaders which will work for radical evangelist-zionist plans

MOURSI vs SISI
SARRAJ vs HAFTAR
ERDOGAN vs FETO

Iraq's SADDAM was destroyed by the US and the UK
Libya's QADDAFI was destroyed by the US , France and the UK

The US and the UK always control dictatorial kingdoms in the Uae , S.Arabia , Jordan , etc


now only Turkey and Iran can implement independent policies in the region
Therefore Turkey and Iran under attack by the US for Israeli interests
 
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I just proven the tactics of Turkish members here. Those long enough staying in this forum knows what I am saying.

Do you know what lurkers are?
Please start using your brain more, its hurting me; reading what you are writing.
 
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Can anyone explain why turkey is interested in Libya?

The thing is that .... just a few years ago ... there was great discoveries in Eastern Mediterranean region ... where all of the discoveries are within the EEZ of Egypt , Israel and Cyprus .... great discoveries that worth Hundreds of Billions USD .... and as you know Cyprus was divided to Turkish north ( only recognized by Turkey) and Greek south .... but all discoveries are within the southern Boarders and the Turkish Cyprus didn’t get anything ....

Also , as Egyptian - Turkish relationship is broken since Egypt expelled the Turkish ambassador in 2013 due to Turkish interference in Domestic Egyptian affairs ..... Egypt announced East Mediterranean Gas Forum including Egypt , Greece , Jordan , Palestine , Israel , Cyprus and Italy .... excluding Turkey .

Since then Turkey tried to stop all these discoveries and agreements as it will not have a penny.... sometimes stopping Cyprus drilling activities other times doing drilling activities on southern Cyprus EEZ .... and finally an agreement with the week GNA in Libya that is not recognized by the Libyans through their elected parliament.

At the End the Turks are practicing the edge of abyss policy .... and they will seek for arrangements that will let them taste a few Billions USD from all the discovered wealth.
 
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now only Turkey and Iran can implement independent policies in the region
Therefore Turkey and Iran under attack by the US for Israeli interests
You see things too black and white, it's never the case in the middle East. Plus you are always trying to paint Turkey as the holy innocent victim in every situation( fair enough you are a Turk but you can still try and be a little bit more rational/fair in your analysis). That is far from the case.
Every Country is looking after their own selfish interests. Turkey included. Nothing wrong in that.
Do you even know that Turkey and Iran are on opposite site of the Syrian civil war? And Iran considers turkeys intervention as an invasion and as such they will like to see Turkey leave Syria and stop supporting groups which they call " terrorist's", In other words, they even see you as a terror supporter/enabler. These are all facts that are publicly available. Yet you are claiming Turkey and Iran are under attack from foreign elements and whatever that even means. In short, ironically the foreign elements you mention will include Turkey for them. Lol

the US , Israel ,the UK , France all together attack on real muslim leaders for destroying them and to find puppet leaders which will work for radical evangelist-zionist plans
Hmmm...but Turkey has been also striving and supporting rebels to topple a 'real muslim' leader(or whetever that even means) i.e Assad from the very beginning of this civil war to this day. So I guess using your logic turkey is a Zionist agent right? o_O. It's all about interests buddy. chill, you see "Zionists" everywhere.

Title says Russia backs the HAFTAR.
I guess he can omit Russia who has been one of the biggest backer of Hafter (both with military gear, logistics, training and even boots on the ground ) since Turkey and Russia have been trying to form closer ties these past years and Russia is not part of the "big bad evil west ". lol
So I guess it's more comfortable and easier to omit them from the equation. Lol :D
 
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You see things too black and white, it's never the case in the middle East. Plus you are always trying to paint Turkey as the holy innocent victim in every situation( faire enough you are a Turk but you can be a little bit more rational in your analysis). That is far from the case.
Every Country is looking after their own selfish interests. Turkey included. Nothing wrong in that.
Do you even know that Turkey and Iran are on opposite site of the Syrian civil war? And Iran considers turkeys intervention as an invasion and as such they will like to see Turkey leave Syria and stop supporting groups which they call " terrorist's",T in other words they even see you as a terror supporter/patron. These are all facts that are publicly available. Yet you are claiming Turkey and Iran are under attack from foreign elements and whatever that even means. In short, ironically the foreign elements you mention will include Turkey for them. Lol

another guy who knows nothing about military and politics

I am saying again

MOURSI vs SISI
SARRAJ vs HAFTAR
ERDOGAN vs FETO

SISI , HAFTAR and FETO are the US backed trojan horses in muslim Countries for Israeli interests

Iraq's SADDAM was destroyed by the US and the UK
Libya's QADDAFI was destroyed by the US , France and the UK

The US and the UK always control dictatorial kingdoms in the Uae , S.Arabia , Jordan , etc

without American-British permission SISI , HAFTAR , S.Arabia , the Uae , Jordan can not even go to toilet


now only Turkey and Iran can implement independent policies in the region
Therefore Turkey and Iran under attack by the US for Israeli interests

of course Turkey and Iran have their own policies .. dont change my words



Hmmm...but Turkey has been also striving and supporting rebels to topple a 'real muslim' leader(or whetever that even means) i.e Assad from the very beginning of this civil war to this day. So I guess using your logic turkey is a Zionist agent right? o_O. It's all about interests buddy. chill, you see "Zionists" everywhere.

Zionist puppet the UK made ASSAD Family as power in Syria in 1970s

and the UK forced Germany to stop OBAMA not to attack ASSAD Regime when ASSAD Regime used chemical weapons against civilians in 2014

Israel always prefer ASSAD Regime , SISI , HAFTAR instead of Turkey backed Leaders in Syria , Egypt , Libya

Title says Russia backs the HAFTAR.

Russia plays HAFTAR card against Turkey to take Idlib in Syria

only 2.000 Russian mercenaries ( Wagner Group ) are in Libya ... nothing else
Turkish Army is coming and We will see what will happen

PUTIN is not stupid to lose Turkey for American-Israeli-European interests in Libya

in a week PUTIN will visit Turkey to resolve an ongoing disagreement with Russia on Libya through dialogue
 
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Zionist puppet the UK made ASSAD Family as power in Syria in 1970s
Actually might agree that we had a favourable or at most neutral opinion of Assad and we weren't completely hostile to the Assad dynasty in the late 60s and 70s. Actually it's not the U.K that was at the forefront of Assad's family support in Syria, it was mostly France, since they were the country's colonial master and so had more links/connections with the country.
In fact Western powers were on fairly good term with Assad before the uprisings and subsequent brutality/massacres Assad inflicted on his own people. If you check Syrian conflict from the beginning, western powers were actually fairly silent/reserved in their remarks until things started getting too big(when the repression/killings widened) and thereby impossible for us to overlook, so we had to take a stand against his regime thereafter.
So i don't see why you think the West is the cause of Assad remaining in power. Seems you would have liked us to intervene and remove him, however i'm 100% sure even if we did and things turned sour you will now be saying the Zionists U.S/U.K/France(not sure they are also part of your Zionists. lol ) have destroyed Syria by removing a real muslim leader Assad to put their puppet who will serve Israel greater interests in the region. :agree::D
In short we are damned if we interne damned if we don't. :tongue:
In this regard, i'm happy we didn't intervene to remove him, let the people there fight and shed their own blood for their freedom. Nothing good comes easy. :bounce:

Russia plays HAFTAR card against Turkey to take Idlib in Syria
You are wrong here, Russia will still take Idlib with or without Turkey. They have already basically captured most of the country. Only Idlib is the last remaining major part not under their control and they have been bombing and launching assaults and slaughtering people in Idlib and surrounding area for months now. Nothing much Turkey can do and i don't blame Turkey, Turkey has actually tried their best in giving support to Syrian rebels fighting Assad regime to be honest.
So if you think Putin will give up Libya(and all the interests that comes with it) for some small town in Syria which will sooner or later come under his control then i must say you got it wrong.
 
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The thing is that .... just a few years ago ... there was great discoveries in Eastern Mediterranean region ... where all of the discoveries are within the EEZ of Egypt , Israel and Cyprus .... great discoveries that worth Hundreds of Billions USD .... and as you know Cyprus was divided to Turkish north ( only recognized by Turkey) and Greek south .... but all discoveries are within the southern Boarders and the Turkish Cyprus didn’t get anything ....

Also , as Egyptian - Turkish relationship is broken since Egypt expelled the Turkish ambassador in 2013 due to Turkish interference in Domestic Egyptian affairs ..... Egypt announced East Mediterranean Gas Forum including Egypt , Greece , Jordan , Palestine , Israel , Cyprus and Italy .... excluding Turkey .

Since then Turkey tried to stop all these discoveries and agreements as it will not have a penny.... sometimes stopping Cyprus drilling activities other times doing drilling activities on southern Cyprus EEZ .... and finally an agreement with the week GNA in Libya that is not recognized by the Libyans through their elected parliament.

At the End the Turks are practicing the edge of abyss policy .... and they will seek for arrangements that will let them taste a few Billions USD from all the discovered wealth.

So basically you are saying Turks are thieves, stealing Libya’s oil
 
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Actually might agree that we had a favourable or at most neutral opinion of Assad and we weren't completely hostile to the Assad dynasty in the late 60s and 70s. Actually it's not the U.K that was at the forefront of Assad's family support in Syria, it was mostly France, since they were the country's colonial master and so had more links/connections with the country.

since 1970s France is nothing in Syria and ASSAD Family is nothing to do with France

I am saying again Zionist puppet the UK made ASSAD Family as power in Syria in 1970s

even ASSAD and his wife were in the UK for education



In fact Western powers were on fairly good term with Assad before the uprisings and subsequent brutality/massacres Assad inflicted on his own people. If you check Syrian conflict from the beginning, western powers were actually fairly silent/reserved in their remarks until things started getting too big(when the repression/killings widened) and thereby impossible for us to overlook, so we had to take a stand against his regime thereafter.

stop talking tales

I am saying again , the UK forced Germany to stop OBAMA not to attack ASSAD Regime when ASSAD Regime used chemical weapons against civilians in 2014

the UK and Germany did not support OBAMA to attack ASSAD regime in 2014 , because of treacherous NATO back stabbed Syrian People and has started destroying Syria's territorial integrity and to create Syrian Kurdistan for Israeli interests

then Russia entered Syria in 2015 to kill Syrian People



So i don't see why you think the West is the cause of Assad remaining in power. Seems you would have liked us to intervene and remove him, however i'm 100% sure even if we did and things turned sour you will now be saying the Zionists U.S/U.K/France(not sure they are also part of your Zionists. lol ) have destroyed Syria by removing a real muslim leader Assad to put their puppet who will serve Israel greater interests in the region. :agree::D
In short we are damned if we interned damn if we don't. :tongue:
In this regard, i'm happy we didn't intervene to remove him, let the people there fight and shed their own blood for their freedom. Nothing good comes easy.

in 2010 ERDOGAN and ASSAD were good friends
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and the UK , the US , France have started their dirty plans in Syria to destroy relationship between ERDOGAN and ASSAD because of to start a civil war in Syria to destroy Syria's territorial integrity and to create Syrian Kurdistan for Israeli interests

the US and the UK created Iraqi Kurdistan after invasion of Iraq by 1991
but they failed in Syria because of the Turkish Armed Forces 3 military operations blocked the US , the UK , France backed Pkk/Ypg terror corridor in Syria ...keep crying


ERDOGAN should be smart and to start again good relationship with ASSAD for Syrian People , for Peace , for Syria's territorial integrity and for kicking the US , the UK , France

ASSAD is million times better than criminal murderer the US , the UK , France who killed millions of Arabs in Algeria , Libya , Egypt , Syria and Iraq
 
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ERDOGAN should be smart and to start again good relationship with ASSAD for Syrian People , for Peace , for Syria's territorial integrity and for kicking the US , the UK , France

ASSAD is million times better than criminal murderer the US , the UK , France who killed millions of Arabs in Algeria , Libya , Egypt , Syria and Iraq
He should declare you an advisor, you are wasted on PDF :D
 
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