Russia and India disagree over Tajik base

[Black Stone]

This is better, I see you have improved. You surely have mimimised the attacks and fancy words.

I never contested the history of US and Soviet Union cold war era, instead I laugh at the way you presented US as a superpower and on the basis of that your presented the US supremacy in terms of Military, Economic strength and Political Influence and following conclusion where you easily derided the supremacy of Russia, India and China, without even knowing the foreign policies of these countries.

You had presented the status of US supremacy in such way that US would do anything whatever relaying on their superpower status to fulfill their object of containing Russian and China, and use India as marionette to contain China.

There you go again with the "laugh"

Is it not true that the US is leading in all those 3 fields?

This is what makes a country a superpower.

You might not like this fact, but it is the truth and laughing is just ignorance.

The question of arguing logically doesn’t arises, as far as your presentation of US status is concerned. Since what you had presume that US supremacy would be enough to accomplish whatever there elementary objectives they had to realize. If you had awake about the foreign policies of other countries then you hadn’t even chatter about containment of Russia and Use of India to contain china.

The fact is we are the worlds only superpower.

In your mind, you classify Superpower status as a country that can dominate the world. That is just crazy.

Superpower status is basically a term that describes a country that leads in all fields, the most important fields are Politics, economics and Military.

The only way you could laugh and/challenge this is name another country which can superceed the US in those fields.

At this moment in time, there exist no such nation.

That's what makes the world sole superpower.

Now do you understand why laughing at it is ignorance.

Use of word “Inferiority” was only to express my dignity to readily accept whatever my fault that you have highlighted.

That's good that you recognise this.

May be this should be sound you foolish, but there is reason for making such claim. Since in my lifetime, as far as my memory goes ,whatever I have read, come across or anything for that matter about Soviet Union, my claim definitely proved to be wise to some extent. As during the Cold war, Soviet Union was all alone in front of US and its NATO Allies in terms of Military, Political Infulence or Economic status. Since even Soviet did play role of containing US and NATO allies, but the countries with whom Soviets were playing game of containment were too weak to exert any kind of credible influence over US and its allies. In contrast, US and its allies mainly consist of some of the affluent countries from Europe, Arab , Australia as well as Japan and some East Asian countries. In other words it can be concluded that Soviets were all alone without anykind of external help, but still they manage to exert immense presseure on US and allies. Unfortunetly on economic front US manage to outrun Soviets.

If am wrong, then pls correct.

That is a logical post and I think is reasonable thinking. But what I was correcting you is that during the cold war there is no such power called Russia.

There was only the Soviet Union.

That's what I was trying to tell you.

It is not an excuses man, it is an kind of explanation to counter you’re amplification of US super status and associated hyperboles regarding India, Russia, China

The US is the superpower of the world, therefore the status remains unless this status is taken over by another coutnry. At this moment in time it is not.

China is the next rising superpower which could lead to the cold war days where there were two superpowers.

Since at this time China is still decades behind us, so our superpower status remains.

Off course! it may be reasonable and logical, but excuse me it is only proved to be valid in terms of US Point of view. In India, as far as I know about my country regarding its Foreign and Domestic policies, Political Affairs as well as Social and Economic Background, your reasonable so called logical claim fall flat, your claim simply doesn’t hold any water.

What I say is ofcourse is based on my viewpoint. Although I might not understand your culture and domestic policies as much as you do since you live there, but I comment on the pretext of international politics.

In the modern world, political affairs are progressed with the partnerships of other nations, some nations hold more influence than others. That's how the game is played.

If we look at the current situation, China and India are rivals and to some extent enemies since their border war. I know China and India are warming ties now, but that doesn't mean their rivalry would stop.

They would always try to out do each other on all fronts, be it political or economical. On international affairs there is no unilateral politics, every country works with other countries to achieve a specific objective.

China being a veto member on the UNSC carries a lot of political influence than India. So it is natural for India to work with the US counter China.

Definitely! Since our history speaks for itself, several eventualities have inflicted on us, then only we never felt the need of any kind of external help. We hold our shoulder high in any kind of hostile environment. And hence we perceived our foreign policy of Non-alignment. Only those countries perceive the policy of Non-alignment which had endure a very hard time in the past and present and still manage to maintain its head high.

India is ofcourse a respected nation, but currently, India is sourounded by 2 unfriendly nations which completely shuts India off on land to the West. Therefore, India would require other routes inorder to access the West and that is the sea route. This usually cost money and time.

The thing you need to understand is in this world, countries work with other countries, there is no going solo in political affairs. If you do everything by yourself, then there is no difference from isolating yourself.

US is the natural partner for India in this situation.

Through our Resilience and devotion in terms of Economic Strength, Military formidability and astounding Political influence . You may be citing the event of 1962 Indo-china war to substantiate your claim of vitality of India’s need of US help, but pls get yourself aware about during this War India call for help from all the world including your US, but no one came to help including your US.

At that point of time we met with humiliated defeat, but we felt no regret for that and learnt very hard lesson, You know what lesson we learned, it is fighting of any kind of eventualities on our own wheatear it is in terms of Military Warfare or Economic Crisis. And hence for that matter we devoted our selves to the likes of Constructive Social and economic building of our nation, constant Military build up to deter anykind of adversaries as well as Quality Domestic & Political influence.

When I said counter China I meant on the political and economical front. As we know, Sino-India war is near impossible. Please tell me how India is going to outdo China on those fronts. I don't live in India so I don't know what policy news of the Indian government is.

When someone like you can’t answer my simple question of “What you know about India’s foreign policy”, and instead engage with me to substantiate his painful emotions as I had spoiled, then How do you expect me you rhetoric Blackstone to come up with favorable response?.

I think your mistaken about can't answer a simple question.

From the start I have been waiting for one answer from you.

The question was...

Please tell me which nation can match our power?

A single name of a country would do.

It only requires a name of a country.

Your simple question however requires a paragraph or two.

So if you please, could you answer my simple question.

So annoyed huh! Did I mention the name of countries that doesn’t suits with US formidability and its merits?

I am not annoyed, just waiting for your answer.

Inspite of repated remainder, the person who can’t answer my simple question about Indian foreign policy, instead choose to come up with his wounded and painful emotional feelings and sentiments, so what you should expect from me?

If I recall correctly, your simple question was posted in your last post.

My simple question has been posted since we first started debating with each other from another thread. Yet, it remains unanswered.

I have told you already, I tell you again. Your not hurting my sentiments, just waiting for an answer before we derail from it.

In fact those were deserving reply to someone like you.

Didn’t you quoted me moronic in your previous post?

So what you exactly expect me in reply to this?

Do you expected me to wreath you as sympathy for your emotional state of psyche?.

Ok, calm down, your posts has been calm so far. Lets keep it this way.

Your posts before was moronic because I claimed there was only sea route and no land route to the west and you replied with Arabian Sea.

That's how I concluded your post moronic.

 

[Black Stone]

I had quoted not only Salim but Malaymarshall as well

Recall about Malaymarshal in Naval thread, while discussing he quoted you “ why are you harping about Sino-Pak Alliance?”

So is it any different from what I had quoted as “They”

Actually, you didn't quote anybody, you just mentioned THEY and EVERYONE.

In regards, to Malaymarshal harping about Sino-Pak alliance was a mistake, he apologised to me. You can check this.

He apologised because I told him it was my first post with him.

When someone like you can’t answer my simple question about Indian Foreign Policy, rather choose to express abnormally of his emotional fantasy, then How do you expect me to talk normally?

It is not I can't asnwer simple questions, it is because I am still waiting for your answer of my simple question. So please don't get emotional. If someone needs to get emotional, it should be me since my simple question is asked since the end of time.

How did you came to know about Salim didn’t laughing when he had quoted your painful emotions? How did you know about his facial expression?

It's because he didn't type the LAUGH word or go LOL or go hahah. But this doesn't matter really as he himeself thinks the US is the worlds only superpower as I have quoted him.

If he did laugh, I would be happy to debate with him and ask him the same questions that I am asking you. But he is more realistic and recognises the fact.

Regarding realistic behaviour of Indian, Had they been view your previous responses in previous thread, then they came up with the identical response as mine. But alas inspite of your insistence, they have expressed their unwillingness to view your fantasy.

If they want clarification or debate something with me, I would be happy too.

How is it a fantasy that US is the worlds sole superpower?

You harebrained! , inspite of your insistence salim had express his reluctant behavior to view your fantasy and for that matter those words.

Harebrained? mmm.. back to words, anyways, what reluctant behavior, the Salim quote I showed you is clear.

Ask yourself who is insecure? When you can’t answer my simple question of Indian foreign policy and instead come and trumpeted the claim of US Supremacy without knowing anything about India, Russia, and china’s foreign policy, it speaks in itself volume about your ignorance and insecurity.

Please don't tell me about simple questions, I am still waiting.

Now who is this everyone? Instead I had express my amusement as how salim expressing their unwillingness to view your fantasy inspite of your insistence?

On other hand your insistence to Salim speaks volume about your nakedness, as you can’t substantiate your claims without the endorsement of other.

Regarding debate of “one on one” and on top of that it is with you, then I am very sorry you oratory!

I don’t want to spoil my grade and integrity by debating with someone like you. My credentials doen’t have so downgraded to make the blunder of debating with you, otherwise I would not be able to confess with myself.

How deplorable and outrageous you are!

Tell me what fantasy? is it not true US is the solesuperpower?

I'm not insisting anything, Salim's quote is clear and simple.

Your credentials? downgraded? please tell me what are your credentials?

Completely sure about myself, as someone unwillngess to view your fantasy inspite of your petitioning can definitely viewed as an amazement.

what fantasy? again, why is it that US is the sole superpower sound fantasy to you?

If this is the case, then it indicate that you need others endorsement to substantiate your claim, so it can be indirectly viewed as you need all others help to back your rhetoric’s.

Still you accused me that you can’t debate with me “one on one”, I think such glamorous sentence doesn’t suits to the mouth of someone like you.

No, I don't endorsement to claim that US is the sole superpower in the world because that is a worldwide fact.

It is true that you can't debate with me though, the reason I think this is because you laugh at the US superpower status but you can't back it up.

The way you are fuming rhetoric, you should not be expect me to digest it.

Who is fuming? I am simply asking you questions because you laughed at the superpower status.

Also, I claim there is sea route and no land route to the west. Then you jumped in with Arabian sea. That's why I discuss with you further.

It's simple debate, but you are the only person throwing many different fancy words at me.

The person who need others endorsement to justify his claim, without even knowing the ground reality and deliberate unanswerability of question of India’s foreign policy, speak well of your own apprehensions and trepidations.

I think your mistaken, is it not you who brought in Salim and Malay into this? in the so-called THEY and EVERYONE?

The only time I mentioned Salim is for his quote. which I used to justify that he also thinks that the US is the sole superpower int he world.

I'm using his quote to make you understand he also thinks this, so why can't you accept this fact.

 

[Keysersoze]

Can we all desist from the personal slang match please. It is not big and it is not clever.

 

[Black Stone]

Double post

 

[KENT]

This is better, I see you have improved. You surely have mimimised the attacks and fancy words.



There you go again with the "laugh"

Is it not true that the US is leading in all those 3 fields?

This is what makes a country a superpower.

You might not like this fact, but it is the truth and laughing is just ignorance.



The fact is we are the worlds only superpower.

In your mind, you classify Superpower status as a country that can dominate the world. That is just crazy.

Superpower status is basically a term that describes a country that leads in all fields, the most important fields are Politics, economics and Military.

The only way you could laugh and/challenge this is name another country which can superceed the US in those fields.

At this moment in time, there exist no such nation.

That's what makes the world sole superpower.

Now do you understand why laughing at it is ignorance.



That's good that you recognise this.



That is a logical post and I think is reasonable thinking. But what I was correcting you is that during the cold war there is no such power called Russia.

There was only the Soviet Union.

That's what I was trying to tell you.



The US is the superpower of the world, therefore the status remains unless this status is taken over by another coutnry. At this moment in time it is not.

China is the next rising superpower which could lead to the cold war days where there were two superpowers.

Since at this time China is still decades behind us, so our superpower status remains.



What I say is ofcourse is based on my viewpoint. Although I might not understand your culture and domestic policies as much as you do since you live there, but I comment on the pretext of international politics.

In the modern world, political affairs are progressed with the partnerships of other nations, some nations hold more influence than others. That's how the game is played.

If we look at the current situation, China and India are rivals and to some extent enemies since their border war. I know China and India are warming ties now, but that doesn't mean their rivalry would stop.

They would always try to out do each other on all fronts, be it political or economical. On international affairs there is no unilateral politics, every country works with other countries to achieve a specific objective.

China being a veto member on the UNSC carries a lot of political influence than India. So it is natural for India to work with the US counter China.



India is ofcourse a respected nation, but currently, India is sourounded by 2 unfriendly nations which completely shuts India off on land to the West. Therefore, India would require other routes inorder to access the West and that is the sea route. This usually cost money and time.

The thing you need to understand is in this world, countries work with other countries, there is no going solo in political affairs. If you do everything by yourself, then there is no difference from isolating yourself.

US is the natural partner for India in this situation.



When I said counter China I meant on the political and economical front. As we know, Sino-India war is near impossible. Please tell me how India is going to outdo China on those fronts. I don't live in India so I don't know what policy news of the Indian government is.




I think your mistaken about can't answer a simple question.

From the start I have been waiting for one answer from you.

The question was...

Please tell me which nation can match our power?

A single name of a country would do.

It only requires a name of a country.

Your simple question however requires a paragraph or two.

So if you please, could you answer my simple question.



I am not annoyed, just waiting for your answer.



If I recall correctly, your simple question was posted in your last post.

My simple question has been posted since we first started debating with each other from another thread. Yet, it remains unanswered.

I have told you already, I tell you again. Your not hurting my sentiments, just waiting for an answer before we derail from it.



Ok, calm down, your posts has been calm so far. Lets keep it this way.

Your posts before was moronic because I claimed there was only sea route and no land route to the west and you replied with Arabian Sea.

That's how I concluded your post moronic.

First of all aplogetic for my insolent behaviour for fuming rubbish about you.

Regarding US super power status, right now there is no country can match one on one with US except China and India which are being viewed as rising power that can challenge US supremacy in the 21st centuary.

As US by virtue of its Economic and Political Potentialities can exert their influence and leverage globally, more so as to act as a third party towards the crisis that has crippled in some corner the world, by exerting influence US can fulfill its interest.

Regarding India's potentialities to counter China, is I had explained you regarding subtantial rise in India's Economical, Political and Military Supremacy.
India by riding on its rising Economy only can exert political and military influnce. Without Economical Development India simply can't do anything with Military and Political competence.

Offlate India has beginning to establishing it relationship with all its neiabours positively. As India has understood to play the card as how to contain china. To contain china, India is improving its ties with all its neioabours including Pakistan and top of that Indian proposal to Pakistan for IPI Gas Pipeline was one the part of that diplomacy and India is consistently maintain improving its hostile relationship with Pakistan.

Regarding your arguement of US cooperation to India to contain china, see a lot depends upon Political climate prevaling in India. During the current Indo-US nucler deal, communist Party had threaten rulling political party to draw out out its support which would made inevitable re-election in the country. Since communist were right according to their Ideology since they see grow up between India and US as counter to china.

Another part of Indo-US cooperation was Defence and Maritime Cooperation, Under this treaty it would allow US to use India's infrastrure for their military movement as well as allow US to undertake inspect India's port and movement of Shipping liner as well as inspection of cargo contain therein. And hence this particuler policy bring bitterness among most of the Indian and political part including Communist.

It is the US who need India to counter china, India and US by ideolgy are Democratic Country,since India by virtue of its longstanding rivaly with China as well as booming Economy and constant effort by Indians to bring positive relationship with all other countries in the world,would make India as ideal elements to contain china.