RSS and SIKHS during 1984 riots

[GURU DUTT]

Guru you said the bellow a while back


RSS was founded when a staunch nationalist keshavrao saw that congress is no more than a british stooge and even if india gets independence she will remain to be a idiological and economick colony of the British and deu to soft aproach oh hindus they will always suffer like they suffered in last one thousnad years specialli so he sarted the sangh or rashtriya swayam sewa sangh

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Keshav Baliram Hedgewar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

even my brothers who live in USA go to sangh there its called Hindu swayam sevak sangh

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Now you are talking about Social work of RSS. That's one thing I was asking about what happened to RSS above ideology for which it was founded as per your post.


Congress is still there. Saffronis still claim that Congress is anti-Hindu and Congress is stooge as per them. I am asking you so why after almost 100 years of its establishment RSS failed to apply its ideology ??


Any reason?

well RSS did get partial results in protecting indian cultuar and India from west to a great extend yes it did not fulli acheve its goal but the main factors for that indians after the freedom from british were like worshipers of nehru ghandi clan and muslims were fed that RSS if it comes to power will kill all muslims and non hindus but now slowli people are waking up to that old congress bogey they created about RSS chusrch on the other hand is also a reason why RSS dint acheve its goals as churchs main objective was to spread christanity thru its missions but RSS opposed it in a constractive manner by doing charity and other such things while asking indians not to take foriegn idiology of british and west backed church and the last thing why RSS dint acheve all its goals was deu to so called neo litrates , leftists , phseodo secularits and to some extend Govt of India as it was always under the influence of RSS haters from the day one

 

[Spring Onion]

Because RSS is not a political organization. It does not contest elections. Hence, it can not come to power.

If its not a political organization then why it was founded on basis of Anti-Congress sentiments or claim?

What influence it has made wrgt to Hindu identity ??

 

[Nair saab]

Guru you said the bellow a while back


RSS was founded when a staunch nationalist keshavrao saw that congress is no more than a british stooge and even if india gets independence she will remain to be a idiological and economick colony of the British and deu to soft aproach oh hindus they will always suffer like they suffered in last one thousnad years specialli so he sarted the sangh or rashtriya swayam sewa sangh

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Keshav Baliram Hedgewar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

even my brothers who live in USA go to sangh there its called Hindu swayam sevak sangh

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/members-club/278855-rss-sikhs-during-1984-riots.html#ixzz2fQJ2dGAn


Now you are talking about Social work of RSS. That's one thing I was asking about what happened to RSS above ideology for which it was founded as per your post.


Congress is still there. Saffronis still claim that Congress is anti-Hindu and Congress is stooge as per them. I am asking you so why after almost 100 years of its establishment RSS failed to apply its ideology ??


Any reason?

Cause unlike other RSS doesnt force it ideology on others... it shows the people the good things about RSS... rest they leave on the people to judge its ideology ...


RSS has Different wings for spreading its ideology ...

RSS - Nationalist and Cultural Wing ...

BJP - Political wing ...

Seva Bharati - Social work owing...

ABVP - Student's Union wing ...

VHP - Religious wing ...

BMS - Workers Union Wing ...

Vidhya Bharati - School and institutions wing ...

Durga Vahini - Womens wing ...

MRM - Muslim wing ...

BKS - farmers wing ...

 

[Truth Finder]

If its not a political organization then why it was founded on basis of Anti-Congress sentiments or claim?

What influence it has made wrgt to Hindu identity ??

1) It was not founded on the basis of Anti-Congress sentiments.

2) Mahatma Gandhi often visited RSS shakas.( By the way, do you consider Gandhi anti-congress/anti-Muslim? He was assassinated for being too much pro-Muslim.)

3)Many congress leaders were the founding members of RSS.(Ex. Madan Mohan Malaviya actively participated & Tilak inspired the ideology.)

4) RSS says Hinduism is a way of life. It has nothing to do with modern concept of religion.

You can check history.

 

[Nair saab]

If its not a political organization then why it was founded on basis of Anti-Congress sentiments or claim?

What influence it has made wrgt to Hindu identity ??

RSS was not made to Compete Congress ... it was made to Mold leaders with the idea of Hindu Nationalism so that these leaders can go and work in their respective parties to spread this ideology ...

and Many Congress Leaders where with RSS ideologist ... not only that RSS infact participated in Independence movement side by side with Congress...

It was after partition that RSS became against Congress and Gandhi ideology of Hindu inferiority and minority appeasement ...

Infact RSS were a Supporter of Babasheb Ambhedkar ... to remove cast system from Hindu society ...

Main objective of RSS is to remove caste system in Hinduism and unite Hindus ... and make feeling Hindu identity among non-Hindu's as well... And we all belong to the same Culture of Great Bharat even if we belong to different religion and languages ...

 

[GURU DUTT]

If its not a political organization then why it was founded on basis of Anti-Congress sentiments or claim?

What influence it has made wrgt to Hindu identity ??

well RSS did help in saving ancient hindu idiology to large extend from neo librals and leftists in that era there were many such organiztions who came up to save there idiology most of them were too agressive and violent in there aproach while RSS being a Hindu forum were more mature and peaceloving and RSS in this get many inputs from them top leaders of congress had RSS not been there no hindu would have come safe from pakistan after the batwara and letists and congress and there church backed groops whould have made hindus a minority in hindustan itself

RSS was made to save india and its cultur from the foreign and interior opponents and deu to right and mature leadership RSS still is there and though most neo librals or phseodo secularist dont like RSS but they never come owt openli in opposition to RSS as most of them know the truth about RSS and its passive , mature and right on the basick and fundamental principels on Indianism/nationalism /hinduism or what ever fancy "ism" you could come up with

 

[notsuperstitious]

RSS is a product of circumstances enforced upon dharmic people for centuries because dharmic people were not united. Someone needed to work towards uniting dharmic people, provide leadership in reform and break caste barriers. While they have had some ups and downs and some people have tried backward stuff under RSS wider banner, for an organisation that has worked that long and that widely their record is pretty impressive.

 

[[Bregs]]

Congress did not initiate anti-Sikh riots in 1984: Gadkari


Congress did not initiate anti-Sikh riots in 1984: Gadkari




Rss, Bjp Role During 1984 Nov. Sikh Genocide : Rock Solid Proof - WHAT'S HAPPENING? - The Voice of Sikhs

 

[SarthakGanguly]

You forgot the errata -
http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/gadkari-media-misquoted-him-on-84-riots_622103.html

Congress did not initiate anti-Sikh riots in 1984: Gadkari


Congress did not initiate anti-Sikh riots in 1984: Gadkari

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

They are only good in hate speech and bashing/blaming Indian Muslims ..Where christians/Muslims Indians fits in their definition of Hindu nationalism or correct word Hindu fanaticism?

 

[livingdead]

RSS was right wing hindu revivalist organization from the beginning... some of the things golwalker (the second sarsangchalak/head) wrote about muslim , women etc were quite stupid.

 

[Khalsa Singh]

Great, but it was only out of self-interest. Congress mobs (mostly Hindus) went on a killing spree, and Hindutva people protected us for the sake of nursing their political ambitions, the whole "enemy of my enemy" schtick.

Keep in mind this is the same RSS which distorts our history today with a Hinduization agenda, and say/do nothing when their fellow hardline Hindutva brothers (Shiv Sena) assault us, insult us, humiliate us, etc.

 

[Truth Finder]

Great, but it was only out of self-interest. Congress mobs (mostly Hindus) went on a killing spree, and Hindutva people protected us for the sake of nursing their political ambitions, the whole "enemy of my enemy" schtick.

Keep in mind this is the same RSS which distorts our history today with a Hinduization agenda, and say/do nothing when their fellow hardline Hindutva brothers (Shiv Sena) assault us, insult us, humiliate us, etc.

Sikhs are the most respected community in India. The PM and Army Chief of India are Sikhs.

 

[Khalsa Singh]

Sikhs are the most respected community in India. The PM and Army Chief of India are Sikhs.

They achieved those positions through merit, not out of some respect from the non-Sikh population.

Sikhs have been victims of state-sponsored genocide, our holiest site(s) destroyed with impunity, our women mass raped as interrogation tactics, etc.. India has not provided us with justice. We are showcased as comic characters in films and regularly insulted.

 

[Truth Finder]

They achieved those positions through merit, not out of some respect from the non-Sikh population.

Sikhs have been victims of state-sponsored genocide, our holiest site(s) destroyed with impunity, our women mass raped as interrogation tactics, etc.. India has not provided us with justice. We are showcased as comic characters in films and regularly insulted.

You are wrong. Some congress goons are responsible for 1984. So, Why are you accusing all of India. Sikhs are respected all over India more than any other community. We are/were/shall be with them always. They are the brave sons of INDIA.