Royal, who believes in change, is quietly transforming Kingdom

[beast89]

Which economists are you talking about?

the newspaper called The economist

 

[somebozo]

paid saudi piece. The economist believes the new prince will bring them to ruin.

The economist predicts everything execpt for erosion and collapse of america's own industry and banking...

 

[somebozo]

 

[T-Rex]

Has Bloomberg taken the PR responsibilities of Mohammad Bin Salman? Why has he revealed these specific thoughts of the Deputy Crown Prince?

 

[Devil Soul]

Young Saudi prince holds power beyond his years
By AFP
Published: April 25, 2016
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Saudi Arabia's Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman PHOTO: REUTERS

RIYADH: Saudi Arabia’s hard-charging Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman holds unusual power for a man of just 30, so much so that diplomats have nicknamed him “Mr Everything”.

Set to announce Monday a major programme to restructure the kingdom’s oil-dependent economy, the son of King Salman has risen to among Saudi Arabia’s most influential figures since being named second-in-line to the throne last year.

Saudis await prince’s vision of future with hope and concern

Prince Mohammed, seen as the standard-bearer for a new generation of Saudi royals, is in charge not only of the country’s economic policy but also the military as defence minister.

The prince has amassed “extraordinary power and influence very quickly” since his father took the throne last year after the death of King Abdullah, said Frederic Wehrey of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington.

“He’s clearly very bright, very intelligent, very on top of all his briefs” and has significant influence on the 80-year-old monarch, one Western diplomat said.

Among his key positions is as chair of the Council of Economic and Development Affairs, set up last year to oversee the economy. Mohammed also chairs a body overseeing state oil giant Saudi Aramco.

As defence minister the prince has spearheaded the kingdom’s military intervention in Yemen, where a Saudi-led coalition 13 months ago launched air strikes against Iran-backed rebels in support of the embattled government.

In a profile and interview released earlier this month, Bloomberg Businessweek said the prince works 16-hour days and draws inspiration from the writings of Winston Churchill and Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War”.

Saudi deputy crown prince backs women driving

It was the latest interview in which the prince has spoken at length about economic plans for the kingdom, where officials are traditionally tight-lipped.

A law graduate from Riyadh’s King Saud University, the dark-bearded prince with a receding hairline is the father of two boys and two girls and — unlike other members of the royal family — has only married once.

He told Bloomberg that although Islam allows for multiple marriages, modern life does not leave the time.

While Mohammed has been careful not to challenge Saudi Arabia’s conservative traditions and powerful clerics, some in the country hope he will be a social reformer.

Mohammed spent years working for his father when he was governor of Riyadh and from 2013 after Salman was named crown prince.

“He has a reputation for being aggressive and ambitious,” Bruce Riedel, a former Central Intelligence Agency officer who directs the Brookings Intelligence Project in Washington, has said.

His relationships with other members of the royal court are unclear and observers last year pointed to an emerging power struggle between Prince Mohammed and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, 56, the interior minister and first-in-line to the throne.

 

[Aramagedon]

The situation in Saudi and Iran are different. Saudi is a kingdom and rule by a family who are competitor of each other to take power. Salman wants his son become king which is against Saudi laws. That's Why he has given him too much power and tries to increase his popularity.

On the other hand king abdullah family who are from a different mother claim the next king should be from them and not salman family.
There is a serious rivalry between king Salman and abdullah families.

Also there are many people in Saudia who are claimant for power for example prince bandar and many others...

Anyway if u think these are offtopics we can talk in another place.

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

The situation in Saudi and Iran are different. Saudi is a kingdom and rule by a family who are competitor of each other to take power. Salman wants his son become king which is against Saudi laws. That's Why he has given him too much power and tries to increase his popularity.

On the other hand king abdullah family who are from a different mother claim the next king should be from them and not salman family.
There is a serious rivalry between king Salman and abdullah families.

Also there are many people in Saudia who are claimant for power for example prince bandar and many others...

Anyway if u think these are offtopics we can talk in another place.

2800, the situation is not any different in Iran as power struggles will emerge in Iran as well when Khamenei dies. You know this as well. So far everything has been under control in KSA whenever a King died and likewise the same occurred when Khomeini died and got replaced by Khamenei. The difference is that it's the senior Grand Ayatollah's with the IRGC and different political factions inside Iran. Mostly hardliners and reformers. In fact you could argue that there are more different groups in Iran that fight for power.

Absolute power can both be a good and bad thing whenever a successor is to be found.

Actually the Crown Prince is Prince Nayef and that will remain to be the case unless King Salman and the Council of Allegiance decide otherwise.

King Abdullah's most prominent son (Miteb) is still the leader of SANG which is a very powerful organization within KSA.

Anyway I think that we can both agree that it would be better if both KSA and Iran adopted more liberal systems and gave much more power to the ordinary citizen.

 

[somebozo]

The situation in Saudi and Iran are different. Saudi is a kingdom and rule by a family who are competitor of each other to take power. Salman wants his son become king which is against Saudi laws. That's Why he has given him too much power and tries to increase his popularity.

On the other hand king abdullah family who are from a different mother claim the next king should be from them and not salman family.
There is a serious rivalry between king Salman and abdullah families.

Also there are many people in Saudia who are claimant for power for example prince bandar and many others...

Anyway if u think these are offtopics we can talk in another place.

Saudi power structure is quite complex and Mohammed Bin Salman is just the deputy crown prince..the next king is line most likely has to be from Naif family unless they withdraw in favour of someone else.

The House of Saud controlled vast parts of the Arabian peninsula for two and a half centuries. The dynasty collapsed twice in the 1800s due to discord over succession. In 1890s, the Al Sauds were completely supplanted by the Al Rashid. The kingdom began to fight to restore itself through Emir Abdulaziz bin Abdul Rahman, known to the world as "Ibn Saud", and his capture of Riyadh in 1902.[3] After much tumult, Saudi Arabia became a kingdom in 1932.

As Ibn Saud conquered Arabia, he formed alliances by polygamous marriages to members of its biggest tribes. This strengthened his power within the Al Sauds and expanded his legitimacy in Arabia, not to mention nearly a hundred children, sixty of whom were boys. He died in 1953.[citation needed]

 

[waz]

Seems like a good chap, all the best to him.

 

[Aramagedon]

Anyway I think that we can both agree that it would be better if both KSA and Iran adopted more liberal systems and gave much more power to the ordinary citizen.

Totally agree with this part especially for Saudi.

What has happened to pdf I didn't receive any alert for your teply; I thought u have not become online since three days ago. cheers

 

[jammersat]

Why is he doing it quietly , is there a large sum of money inlove

 

[B@KH]

The only rotten thing in the Middle east is Iran and its allies, just look at their countries and its economies and services. Totally garbage, that is why your lovely Shia Iraqis are revolting against Iran's puppets in the Iraqi government.
Anything Iran touches go to shit immediately, since they themselves are the world's leading BS producers and the world's most corrupt regime where the Revolutionary guard has a monopoly on everything, from the Media to economy. A typical recipe for failure.

your enmity with Islamic Revolution is understandable since your Arabism and monarchy is not approved by the Islamic Revolution.

Do not you see the occurring miracle that Arabian Desert will turn into an educated civilized and developed land with 30 million annual tourists+another 30 million hajis and tens of millions immigrants naturalize bringing an end to Arabism. Then there will be no need for an arab league since Islam do not believe in Arab or Ajam and then there will be Global Peace League. These are Fruits of the Islamic Revolution and there will no stoppage since it is already proved after imposed wars, sanctions, isolation, terrorism. Nothing will stop transformation of the region to better, civilized and advance societies.

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

your enmity with Islamic Revolution is understandable since your Arabism and monarchy is not approved by the Islamic Revolution.

Do not you see the occurring miracle that Arabian Desert will turn into an educated civilized and developed land with 30 million annual tourists+another 30 million hajis and tens of millions immigrants naturalize bringing an end to Arabism. Then there will be no need for an arab league since Islam do not believe in Arab or Ajam and then there will be Global Peace League. These are Fruits of the Islamic Revolution and there will no stoppage since it is already proved after imposed wars, sanctions, isolation, terrorism. Nothing will stop transformation of the region to better, civilized and advance societies.

If there is no need for ethnic groups in your world what is the need for nation states then? Why are you trying to act more Iranian than the Iranians and why are you talking about Iran and Iranians 24/7 if nationalism is forbidden? Can you not spot the enormous contradiction? Iran and Iranians can be as nationalistic as they please but Arabs should stop being Arabs. Makes perfect sense.

KSA is already the 15th most visited country on the planet despite having one of the most restrictive VISA rules on the planet and no official tourist VISA. Migrants will at most get a green card in a few years time. The Arab identity, which predates Islam, will never perish nor will the identity of the Arab countries and peoples. KSA is already one of the most developed countries on the planet. I suggest that you take a look at GDP per capita (nominal), HDI, infrastructure etc. KSA and the GCC along with Turkey are lightyears ahead of every single Muslim nation on this front overall.

Prophet Muhammad (saws) never denied his Arab identity or origin. Allah (swt) created different races and peoples so we may know each other. Superiority and false pride is discouraged which should be evident with or without Islam.

Instead of obsessing about Arabs you should realize that all of your "holy men" are Arabs and even the Iranian Mullah's that you worship have Arab origin starting from Khomeini to the current Khamenei and hundreds of others. Shia theologians throughout history have almost exclusively been Arab unlike Sunni theologians who come from a more diverse group of people although Arabs are naturally dominating as well.

Anyway why are you talking about all this in a thread that has nothing to do with such issues?

If Iran's supposed Islamic Revolution is the best the Muslim world can offer, then I prefer no "Islamic" Revolutions. Thank you very much.

 

[B@KH]

If there is no need for ethnic groups in your world what is the need for nation states then? Why are you trying to act more Iranian than the Iranians and why are you talking about Iran and Iranians 24/7 if nationalism is forbidden? Can you not spot the enormous contradiction? Iran and Iranians can be as nationalistic as they please but Arabs should stop being Arabs. Makes perfect sense.

KSA is already the 15th most visited country on the planet despite having one of the most restrictive VISA rules on the planet and no official tourist VISA. Migrants will at most get a green card in a few years time. The Arab identity, which predates Islam, will never perish nor will the identity of the Arab countries and peoples. KSA is already one of the most developed countries on the planet. I suggest that you take a look at GDP per capita (nominal), HDI, infrastructure etc. KSA and the GCC along with Turkey are lightyears ahead of every single Muslim nation on this front overall.

Prophet Muhammad (saws) never denied his Arab identity or origin. Allah (swt) created different races and peoples so we may know each other. Superiority and false pride is discouraged which should be evident with or without Islam.

Instead of obsessing about Arabs you should realize that all of your "holy men" are Arabs and even the Iranian Mullah's that you worship have Arab origin starting from Khomeini to the current Khamenei and hundreds of others. Shia theologians throughout history have almost exclusively been Arab unlike Sunni theologians who come from a more diverse group of people although Arabs are naturally dominating as well.

Anyway why are you talking about all this in a thread that has nothing to do with such issues?

If Iran's supposed Islamic Revolution is the best the Muslim world can offer, then I prefer no "Islamic" Revolutions. Thank you very much.

KSA is monarchy and cannot represent Islam. see this how sincere pakistanis talk.

no offence. for info only.

it is mystery that nothing better than Islamic Revolution can come from anywhere. KSA already tried well and destroyed peace. Islamic Revolution has paved the way for Imam Mahdi a.s.'s greatest and powerful and ultimate Global Peace. The region has to transform. more earlier more better.

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

KSA is monarchy and cannot represent Islam. see this how sincere pakistanis talk.

no offence. for info only.

it is mystery that nothing better than Islamic Revolution can come from anywhere. KSA already tried well and destroyed peace. Islamic Revolution has paved the way for Imam Mahdi a.s.'s greatest and powerful and ultimate Global Peace. The region has to transform. more earlier more better.

Is that the Pakistani, Indian or whatever he is clown who is based in Trinidad of all places and who is addicted to conspiracy theories and the same guy that some South Asians in the UK and elsewhere worship like some saint? Is that him? Hussain something?

You know what is a mystery? You not being able to argue against a single point that I wrote to you. Talk about being clueless.

Yes, let us all adopt the Shia Ayatollah Monarchy where one person (Khamenei) has ruled for almost 26 years. In that period of time KSA has had 3 different kings. I stopped watching 13 seconds into that video, lol. "To protect Muslims, Arabs and Islam". "Best option there is". "The only voice". How much nonsense can a person tell in the span of 30 seconds? Unbelievable. No wonder that you seem all over the place and fully brainwashed. Go open a neutral source or a book that has not been printed in Qom. Lastly stop talking to me like I want anyone to lead anything. As of now the Muslim world has a million problems to solve. If Switzerland, Sweden or the UK turned Muslim tomorrow I would use them as inspiration. But that's not the case.