Rouhani is the first Iranian president to visit Europe in 16 years

[Chevil]

nonsense moosavi never was a reformist when he was at power at the time his only taught was to run a country that was relying to foreigners in every aspect just several years ago under sanction while spending half the country income on an imposed war. rafsanjani is not a reformist at all . roohani is also someone in middle the only reformist in your list is khatami. And non of the sanction were because of elections

well , that what make these so called reformist so dangerous , back then , they were Right Wing but in 75-76 when they saw no one is going to vote for them ( thanks to Hashemi Rafsanjani ) then they divide themselves and some of them fooled most of people and act like they are against Rafsanjani and his policies in 76 and called themselves Reformist" ..... in 84 most of them ( including Khatemi ) supports Rafsanjani and in 88 they did what they did ....


این عزیزان اصلاح طلب ، همون هایی هستند که نظریه پردازشون جناب سعید حجاریان کارش اعدام کردن افسران ارتش در اوایل انقلاب بود و حالا برای ما ژست روشنفکری می گیره ، یا کروبی اونها زندان خصوصی داشت !!!
این همه به رفسنجانی فحش دادن و گفتن « عالیجناب سرخپوش » حالا دست در گردن هم ائتلاف می کنند و دل می دهند و قلوه می گیرند ...
این طیفی که به خودشون اصلاح طلب می گند ، در واقع قدرت طلب هایی اند که فقط منافع خودشون رو در نظر می گیرند ، چه اینکه توی دهه ی 60 یک کارمند زن رو به خاطر اینکه ساعد دستش کمی اومده بود بیرون توبیخ سخت کردند ، چه اینکه در دهه ی 90 در مورد لزوم آزادی حجاب صحبت می کنند ( صحبت پدر گرامی در مورد دیروز و امروز یک اصلاح طلب دو آتیشه ی شهر ) ...


البته دیوار حاشا بلنده ...

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Iran is hardly religious

http://www.iflscience.com/technology/iranian-becomes-first-woman-ever-win-nobel-prize-mathematics

It is religious at its own level
Look at the ridiculous fatwas. The grip of clergy .
Place where Iranians can get jailed for making and uploading Pharrel Williams I am happy song

 

[Tshering22]

From what I see , Reformists are going to lose badly in next elections , especially in small cities and towns ....Mr. Rouhani economic programs is just good for the rich and government employees ...

Then what do you propose for economic growth?

Will it be a preference to utilize the removal of sanctions to expand trade with Asian countries like China, India, Indonesia, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore etc?

Or will this also be utilized for expanding cooperation with specific European countries with a little bit more autonomy like France, Poland, Spain etc?

 

[Audio]

Does any Iranian have news on the supposed pipeline some Italian company will build in Iran? 2000km long, where will it go?

 

[Silverblaze]

Yes , The rich are happy , but most of middle class people are not ...
And aboat global market , Rouhani gov plan is this " just import " ....

We have more than 4-6 million unemployment people and in past 2 years reformist just ignore this issue ....

And what ?! Rouhani goes to buy Aircraft ?! Should I be happy ?! Hell no , because me and most of Iranian can't afford traveling with Aircraft , that mean we( middle and lower class people ) pay for this aircrafts , but only the rich are going to use it ....

Good point, but do consider this. If the Iranian rich class makes more money, the more it will invest in its own country. Hence more jobs. Iran can export more by joining the global economy. So, more jobs. Iran was under worst sanctions which really was unfair. So,you will see many positives, but it will take time.

 

[Chevil]

Good point, but do consider this. If the Iranian rich class makes more money, the more it will invest in its own country. Hence more jobs. Iran can export more by joining the global economy. So, more jobs. Iran was under worst sanctions which really was unfair. So,you will see many positives, but it will take time.

the problem is this , they don't invest money in Iran , rather in Canada , Australia , England , USA and so on .... most of them even don't live in Iran and thanks to our corrupt Bank System and weak Tax System , The rich are the one who pay lowest tax in Iran ...

the problem lies on our governing System , most of officials are economically corrupted and they are siding with banks and the rich people and they don't let that we correct our bank system , tax system , and in general our economical system for obvious reasons ....
for example , one of our current minister has more than 1-2 billion $ wealth , but officially his only source of income in past 40 years was just a simple government payment ( in best case , 1000 - 2000 $ in month )
so for sure this kind of Ministers don't care about people and don't care about make more jobs , hell in Rouhani government , net rate of creation jobs is Negative and he even didn't bother himself to talk about this issues in past 3 years .....

We have serious and systematic problem and Rouhani government cabinet can't solve the problem because :
1- they are old and usually old people doesn't have courage to reform system
2- in fact this ministers are the one who engineered current economical system of Iran in governments of Mir Housein Mousavy , Hashemi Rafsanjani and Khatemi era
3- these current system is source of unimaginable income and wealth for them , their family and their party( billion dollars )

 

[somebozo]

Where did Marg bar america and down with Jews go?

Good point, but do consider this. If the Iranian rich class makes more money, the more it will invest in its own country. Hence more jobs. Iran can export more by joining the global economy. So, more jobs. Iran was under worst sanctions which really was unfair. So,you will see many positives, but it will take time.

Irani rich class has only one thing in mind..make maximum money and shovel it to west before another sanctions bite due to stupidity of mullah

It is religious at its own level
Look at the ridiculous fatwas. The grip of clergy .
Place where Iranians can get jailed for making and uploading Pharrel Williams I am happy song

Their annual parades of cult..

 

[Chevil]

Where did Marg bar america and down with Jews go?

Irani rich class has only one thing in mind..make maximum money and shovel it to west before another sanctions bite due to stupidity of mullah

some of Iranian pay for this with their life and their blood , and some others filled their pocket with it ....
Irani rich class was like this even before revolution ....

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Where did Marg bar america and down with Jews go?


Irani rich class has only one thing in mind..make maximum money and shovel it to west before another sanctions bite due to stupidity of mullah



Their annual parades of cult..

Hopefully you are not referring to moharam processions as cult because this word suits Daesh and its derivatives

 

[somebozo]

Hopefully you are not referring to moharam processions as cult because this word suits Daesh and its derivatives

A cult is a cult..doesn't matter who does it..Keep that daeshi labels to yourself..
I am glad we dont have to close down streets and bombard the national TV with punishment to all common viewers..

 

[Daneshmand]

Hopefully you are not referring to moharam processions as cult because this word suits Daesh and its derivatives

You already very well know what he is talking about. Why asking?

It is religious at its own level
Look at the ridiculous fatwas. The grip of clergy .
Place where Iranians can get jailed for making and uploading Pharrel Williams I am happy song

I can assure you that the "grip of clergy" in Iran has not yet produced the bigotry at this level: https://defence.pk/threads/welcome-...nomy-into-meltdown.420384/page-2#post-8125746

All Muslim societies have serious problems. Each and Every One of Them. Whether Pakistan, Iran or Turkey or any other.

But the most rational and the most sane among them all, are Iranians. Even the Iranian clergy despite their backwardness, are by comparison enlightened.

Once on another thread I had told you that, this is the work of centuries.

You say no?

Then just solve the single issue of Takfir. Which is killing students and soldiers alike in Pakistan.

You and I both know that you will not be able to solve the issue of Takfir in this century.

So then why take jibe at Pharrel Williams I am happy song episode?

Lives are being lost, daily. And this is what we can come up with in order to satisfy our egos. I guess, this is the only reason.

The problem starts right here. And it ends right here. When Takfir thoughts are allowed to be used for "political convenience". Then of course when students are massacred and soldiers are blown up then why complain?