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Rosneft, PetroVietnam to establish joint ventures to prospect for oil in Pechora Sea

Bro, Hes maybe a Chinese living in UK, thats why he defends China.

Pro-China? He is only pro-USA/UK and the Anglo-Saxon dominated world.

He considers both China and Russia as the worthy opponents, while you jungle Viets will never receive that kind of treatment.
 
I just seek the location of pechora sea. it is quite far from VN.

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Pro-China? He is only pro-USA/UK and the Anglo-Saxon dominated world.

He considers both China and Russia as the worthy opponents, while you jungle Viets will never receive that kind of treatment.
Russia is their worthy opponents, but China dont. China can not even unify TW and falling into middle income trap now. So, no hope for China's future when they cant even make a good car engine until now .
 
Too cold for our Vietnamese friends
I believe most of the times it is too cold for our people. we need winter clothing.

lool Ok you can stay with Russia then bro, but that will mean you will have to stop asking/demanding U.S help when you have issues with China. Last time you did with the oil rig, Vietnam was the one running to daddy U.S for support after the oil rig incident. Your government has even been pleading with the U.S to remove its arms exports ban against Vietnam now for quite a long time(since they know U.S weapons are way better than Soviet era ones Russia provides you). This shows just how Vietnams government knows the U.S will be a better partner than Russia.Time will tell.:bounce:
come on Mike, we do business with russia as we do with china. the old days of Soviet Union will never come back. nowadays we see Russia is as important as China or America. you know I am a fan of US made weapons...aegis destroyers for example.

we do political consultation with russia...
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or economic consultation, explore possible fields where we both can cooperate. rest assure we ask the russians why they don´t support us against china.
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is it to me for anyone other also?why you sound more chinese than a british.what problem does uk has with vietnam,i think it's none.if west has problem with vietnam having relations with russia or buying weapons from them then they should have shown some concern but they are not.infact they are happy vietnam being armed and confronting china.china has no beef with ukraine in fact they have very cordial relations,a lot of tech have been transferred from ukraine to china,they have helped china in many spheres and a lot.then why is china not supplying weapons to ukraine?who is stopping them?the answer is they are against ukraine joining nato and EU.you know if ukraine joins EU they won't be able to sell military stuff to china as EU has arms embargo on china.china uses a lot of their stuff and produce them under license(may be i not be fully correct).as much as russia needs china,china also needs support of russia equally.these two powerfull countries are defying USA.russia or china alone cannot tackle USA at present it will take decades but both of them together the situation changes drastically.why you are implying that russia should'nt supply weapons to countries who are having problem with china,does china guarantees it will buy all the weapons it exports to countries china having problem with?what will happen to their defence industries,they are just back on track after the fall of soviet union.are you saying that saying that china should firmly dictate russia's foreingn policy and whom to supply weapons or not because they are presently under sanctions,it doesn't work like that,it's a two way street.russians would take on chin rather losing their dignity.you include china in threads where it is irrelevent or unnecessary.if india is buying weapons from japan then your ridiculing russians weapons saying look russia even india is not interested in your junks then how can you win war with japan,is there any logic in that,may be you dont know india still buys majority of weapons from russia.you are not only ridiculing but also provoking other members.in one other thread you were in agreement in germany boosting their military capabilities because they have sincerely apologized for their actions of past and there are no problems now for them being arming but japan should'nt because because they have not appologized.if nobody is objecting when china is arming upto the teeth for supposedly taking on USA or south korea against north korea,china and supposedly japan, then why against japan only.more countries are welcoming their decision rather than a few who are against, on reversing and lifting their ban on sale of weapons to friendly countries and helping their allies and support them even outside japanese territories when in needs and take more active role.bangladesh has even withdrawn their name from unsc in support of japan.many countries are queuing up for their weapons and honestly say that if russian weapons are junk then what are chinese weapons?why you look more of like spokesperson for china rather than UK.you have more to say about china and much less about your own country.you look more concerned for them rather than yourself.i am on many international forums but i haven't seen a Brit supporting and defending china so much. i don't know if any other members feels same like me or not and please don't give that crap that you are fair and unbiased and speak through your heart thingy and bla bla bla maybe others believe but i don't take that.there are lots of things like the way you write etc which leads me to believe you are either a false flagger or not of british origin.i think you are just like our brothers abingdonboy or qamar1990.i rarely post here but do lurk around and post whenever i do feel necessary.

Ahahahahah...LMAO. So because I have made points which you don't agree with, so you label me as Chinese and not British?:lol: I'm not surprised though. Since I know you Asians tend to label anyone who doesn't agree with your points as anti X country.
I have seen it here, with some members labeling me as anti Islam/racist because I made points they didn't like about extremism, some Russians and Chinese labeling me as a brainwash hypocritical westerner when I made points they didn't like, some some Turks even said I I was Iranian when I made points they didn't like, same with pakistanis saying im indian when i criticized their country..etc etc.. but when I say something favourable to any of those countries they welcome it and hail me.:lol: So you people will need to make up your mind where I'm from then, cuz I have heard so many countries of which I'm supposedly from. :lol:

You Asians need to learn to be less emotional and be able to accept criticisms when due. I will criticize even my government/policies if I view them to be negative, that doesn't means i m.not patriotic. Its by learning to accept criticisms and working on your faults that you can progress, else you will never learn from your past mistakes. That's one reason why we in the west are still ahead of you people and will keep being for a long time to come, since we accept/allow critical thinking.:agree:
Yea I have been to several Asian countries and even lived brieflyIin a few. Same with Africa(my wife is half African) which I love . so I'm an avid lover of both continents, reason I follow news from these places constantly. You might not like it, but that's up to u. It will be pleasure for me to welcome/receive you if you ever come to U.K so you can see if I'm Chinese or white British. :lol:


Coming to topic, I was stressing that Vietnams interests will be better served by allying with the U.S , Russia might supply it weapons but in critical times of needs/conflict with China Russia won't support Vietnam. So any sane Vietnamese should know that allying with the U.S will be the best solution for Vietnam, since it will serve as a deterent to China. You can argue all you want but that is the best solution I see for Vietnam, since the U.S is still by far the most powerful country on earth and can give/offer more to Vietnam than Russia can ever do.

But I agree the U.S has been rather slow in supporting /engaging Vietnam. The arms sanctions should have been lifted long ago against Vietnam, I still don't understand why the U.S hasn't done that. However I read many U.S law makers are in favour of lifting such a ban. So I'm hopeful the band will soon be lifted. After this is done, the sky will be the limit for Vietnam U.S relations.:usflag:
 
Coming to topic, I was stressing that Vietnams interests will be better served by allying with the U.S , Russia might supply it weapons but in critical times of needs/conflict with China Russia won't support Vietnam. So any sane Vietnamese should know that allying with the U.S will be the best solution for Vietnam, since it will serve as a deterent to China. You can argue all you want but that is the best solution I see for Vietnam, since the U.S is still by far the most powerful country on earth and can give/offer more to Vietnam than Russia can ever do.
We dont see US willing to help VN to unify sub-Mekong region like Soviet's help in 1979 yet :pop:
 
I believe most of the times it is too cold for our people. we need winter clothing.


come on Mike, we do business with russia as we do with china. the old days of Soviet Union will never come back. nowadays we see Russia is as important as China or America. you know I am a fan of US made weapons...aegis destroyers for example.

we do political consultation with russia...
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or economic consultation, explore possible fields where we both can cooperate. rest assure we ask the russians why they don´t support us against china.
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I know bro. But Vietnam can ally more with the U.S while still maintaining business relationship with Russia. Many countries do that . but what I meant is that Vietnam should take a stand more toward s the U.S than Russia. Since the U.S can offer more to Vietnam both diplomatically,commercially and militarily (the TPP is a good example of this, and shows how the U.S can help Vietnam). Vietnam shouldn't just base its feeling on the cold war friendship it had with Russia, every country should only look out for their interests there's no shame in that so Vietnam shouldn't feel like its indebted to Russia or anything, there are no permanent friends in politics, just permanent interests, and currently Vietnam and U.S interests match . so I don't see why they shouldn't come closer together. :-)

By the way, I told you before I will be visiting Vietnam summer next year. Which city in Vietnam are you from? It will be good if we could meet so you can show me around, since I don't know anybody/have any friends in Vietnam. :cheers:
Wishing Vietnam all the best. :-)
 
I know bro. But Vietnam can ally more with the U.S while still maintaining business relationship with Russia. Many countries do that . but what I meant is that Vietnam should take a stand more toward s the U.S than Russia. Since the U.S can offer more to Vietnam both diplomatically,commercially and militarily (the TPP is a good example of this, and shows how the U.S can help Vietnam). Vietnam shouldn't just base its feeling on the cold war friendship it had with Russia, every country should only look out for their interests there's no shame in that so Vietnam shouldn't feel like its indebted to Russia or anything, there are no permanent friends in politics, just permanent interests, and currently Vietnam and U.S interests match . so I don't see why they shouldn't come closer together. :-)

By the way, I told you before I will be visiting Vietnam summer next year. Which city in Vietnam are you from? It will be good if we could meet so you can show me around, since I don't know anybody/have any friends in Vietnam. :cheers:
Wishing Vietnam all the best. :-)
I think as long as there is no immediate threat or war, VN army will maintain the no-align policy.
actually our best weapon is diplomacy, not the new kilo. you know, how to keep our independence and national interests without going to conflict or war with china is the most challenging task. it is very difficult considering the imbalance of powers. we need other major powers America, Russia, Japan and India to keep the Chinese in check. I believe we are realistic. sure, there is still some cold war friendship we had with Russia, but the good old days are over.

mike, I lived in Saigon and Nhatrang. Got many relatives in VN.
perhaps @Carlosa can show you around as he lives in Danang. the city of Danang is modern, has beautiful beaches.

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By the way, I told you before I will be visiting Vietnam summer next year. Which city in Vietnam are you from? It will be good if we could meet so you can show me around, since I don't know anybody/have any friends in Vietnam. :cheers:
Wishing Vietnam all the best. :-)
Welcome to VN, and Pls dont use expensive smart phone, wear expensive ring, take photo with expensive camera when u r on street to void the pick pocket and street snatcher :)

Gun is not allowed, so VN is quite safe place, beware of our crazy traffic, too. U can ask someone to help u to go across the street too..
 
Russia is their worthy opponents, but China dont. China can not even unify TW and falling into middle income trap now. So, no hope for China's future when they cant even make a good car engine until now .

LOL. When Vietnam can develop their own writing system and not use French come back and let us know Viet.

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Obama strongly disagrees with you.

Obama: 'Russia doesn't make anything,' West must be firm with China| Reuters

Only the delusional Viets still live under the outcome of the Vietnam War.
To get an idea how weak Vietnam is, HK's GDP is more than Vietnam. Those jungle monkeys can keep chest thumping, eat bananas and create 8-bit video games for all I care.

:D
 
We dont see US willing to help VN to unify sub-Mekong region like Soviet's help in 1979 yet :pop:

Didn't you try to convince us here the US will be helping your jungle for that purpose? Are you now retracting your earlier dream after some coffee? Get real US isn't gonna help you guys the way you want and neither will Russia come to your aid when your jungle wish a frontal confrontation with China. You can buy some military stuff from Russia, Japan or India but these countries sure ain't gonna come to your rescue. :lol:
 
Didn't you try to convince us here the US will be helping your jungle for that purpose? Are you now retracting your earlier dream after some coffee? Get real US isn't gonna help you guys the way you want and neither will Russia come to your aid when your jungle wish a frontal confrontation with China. You can buy some military stuff from Russia, Japan or India but these countries sure ain't gonna come to your rescue. :lol:

The Viets will offer the Americans Vietnam's number one coffee. They can't refuse.

It's the shit

Coffee in Vietnam: It's the shit | The Economist

IN A humid outdoor café surrounded by palm trees, Hung Pham Ngoc launches an attack on his coffee, pushing aside a cup of pungent black java for a Coke. “Everything is fake!” complains the professional coffee taster and self-proclaimed snob. “It's all made from artificial flavours. It's undrinkable.” He fumes on about the problems of the coffee industry, and what he calls a grievous oversupply of substandard beans.
Vietnam is the world's second-largest coffee producer, but also one of the most obscure. Unlike coffee exports from countries such as Brazil and Ethiopia, Vietnamese beans are typically used in cheap instant Western coffee, which earns scant international commendation. His country, he declares, needs to market a trendy style of coffee drinking—like Starbucks, he adds, but finer. “Civet dung,” he proclaims. “Civet dung makes coffee good. It's natural, and it makes real coffee.”

Mr Hung is one of a handful of Vietnamese aficionados trying to revive tastes for this epicurean and elusive beverage. At specialised coffeeshops around the world, this coffee sells for around $30 a cup. As it happens, civet cats are coffee connoisseurs. With their long noses, they sniff out and eat the best and fleshiest beans. Their digestive enzymes ferment the beans and break down the proteins. These beans, harvested from the faeces, then create a coffee that tastes rich and slightly smoky with hints of chocolate. The beverage is known in Vietnamese as ca phe chon, or civet-cat coffee, and is also commonly produced in Indonesia and the Philippines. The final cup delivers a smooth, dark palate that is stronger but, some say, less bitter than typical coffee.

Three years ago Mr Hung and three partners started Legend Revived, a high-end brand in Ho Chi Minh City that sells chon beans in Vietnam, Britain and Norway at $500 per kilogram (“The finest gift from Vietnam”). But sourcing the beans is getting trickier. Since the end of the Vietnam war, farmers have been migrating to the central highlands, the country's main coffee-producing region. “Trees have been cut down illegally all over the country, so the fox's habitat is affected severely,” says Doan Trieu Nhan, a Hanoi-based special adviser to the Vietnam Coffee and Cocoa Association. Compounding the problem, the civets themselves are now hunted and served on the dinner tables of the country's nouveau riche, he said.

As a result, there is a growing market in fake civet beans. One example widely peddled at outdoor markets is made with artificial fragrances that bear little resemblance to the drink's actual bold taste. Larger coffee chains, however, produce a more sophisticated beverage using biotechnology, isolating an enzyme similar to that in the civet's stomach that ferments the beans, and then mixing it with chocolate powder to add authenticity to its aroma. In Buon Me Thuot, the province's capital and the coffee capital of Vietnam, nearly every market-stall vendor claims to sell the weasel beans, often asking for at least $100 per kilogram. Local customers, once relentless in their search for the real thing, now often settle for the knock-offs. “People actually like buying ca phe chon even though they think it might be fake, because the price is not that expensive,” explains Nguyen Khanh Van, a university student in Ho Chi Minh City.

For the civet cats and their famous brew, the prospects were once more encouraging. In 1857 French colonialists introduced the first coffee trees to Vietnam and 30 years later built the first coffee plantations in the country. Farmers were barred from taking harvested beans, so they scavenged for the civet droppings to make their own secret roasts—a practice that gained popularity as the drink caught on in the mid-20th century.

Today most chon merchants don't look in the wild for manure, but rent out farms for their cats to roam, chew (often less than a fifth of the ripest beans) and then let nature take its course. After farmers collect and wash the droppings, they dry them in the sun for weeks until the outer skin falls off. Brewers then use one of several methods for roasting the beans. One popular approach involves dashing the beans with sugar, salt and butter, and then giving them a medium or light roast over some coffee-tree wood (a heavy roast would cause the sugary beans to lose their natural taste).

The end product, although high in quality, is a tough sell. Many dealers are unwilling to risk large sums of money when so many people are now peddling fake beans. Even genuine chon coffee, however, has its sceptics. Such an expensive and rarefied product is limited in its appeal to a tight and specialised foreign market; nearly all locals are priced out. It is “regarded simultaneously as gimmicky and incredibly sought after,” says Sarah Grant, an anthropologist studying coffee tastes in Vietnam. Other critics have challenged chon coffee on ethical grounds, alleging that many civet cats are treated inhumanely by their owners. Some farmers, for example, coerce them into eating beans by paddling them with sticks. “Given the number of advocates against weasel coffee, it's also a rather precarious product to consider marketing,” Ms Grant adds.

Such criticism doesn't deter Mr Hung and his colleagues, who claim they run an ethical business. They add that the benefits of a strong cup of chon coffee outweigh the unsavoury aspects of it passing through an animal's bowels. One obstacle, says Ms Grant, is that the world has branded Vietnam as a high-volume, rather than high-quality, producer of coffee, and reversing that perception will be tough. But Mr Hung presses forward. “Chon coffee,” he argues, “is the only way we can place Vietnam's name among coffee connoisseurs around the world.”
 
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@Jlaw
Perhaps these Vietcongs can persuade the Americans risking their lives for the shit beverage, on second thought i don't think so :lol:. Truth is we all know VN doesn't have that many options at table.
 

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