Rohingya insurgency declares ‘open war’ in Myanmar

[Banglar Bir]

Turkish FM: Why are Muslim nations silent on Rohingya?
Mevlut Cavusoglu says Turkey has sent humanitarian aid worth $70M to Rohingya people
02.09.2017
Fatih Hafız Mehmet Ankara

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu

Pakistan: Rohingya Muslims' deaths cause 'deep concern'

Violence against Rohingya Muslims protested in Berlin

Indonesians urge end to violence against Rohingya

World silence on Myanmar violence is ‘picture of shame’

Turkey tells Bangladesh: Open your doors to Rohingya
By Suleyman Elcin
ANTALYA, Turkey

Turkey’s foreign minister on Saturday decried other Muslim countries' silence on the plight of the Rohingya Muslims.
"There are a great many Muslim countries. Where are they? Why are they silent?" Mevlut Cavusoglu asked at an event marking the Muslim Eid-al Adha holiday in the Mediterranean province of Antalya.

He said to date Turkey had delivered more than $70 million in humanitarian aid to the Rohingya Muslims, and that no country in the world was showing more concern for the Rohingya than Turkey.

But, he added: "It’s not enough to deliver aid. In two weeks we need to hold a meeting in New York with the UN’s secretary-general, leaders of Muslim countries, international organizations, head of the UN Advisory Commission on Rakhine State, Kofi Annan, and other leaders to solve this issue."

Violence erupted in Myanmar’s Rakhine state on Aug. 25 when the country’s security forces launched an operation against the Rohingya Muslim community. It triggered a fresh influx of refugees towards neighboring Bangladesh, though the country sealed off its border to refugees.

Media reports said Myanmar security forces used disproportionate force, displacing thousands of Rohingya villagers and destroying their homes with mortars and machine guns.

The region has seen simmering tension between its Buddhist and Muslim populations since communal violence broke out in 2012.

A security crackdown launched last October in Maungdaw, where Rohingya make up the majority, led to a UN report on human rights violations by security forces that indicated crimes against humanity.

The UN documented mass gang-rape, killings -- including infants and young children -- brutal beatings, and disappearances. Rohingya representatives have said approximately 400 people have been slain during the crackdown.
http://aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/turkish-fm-why-are-muslim-nations-silent-on-rohingya/899996

Cocktails hurled at Myanmar Embassy in Indonesia
ইন্দোনেশিয়ায় মিয়ানমার দূতাবাসে ককটেল হামলা

03 Sep, 2017
ইন্দোনেশিয়ার রাজধানী জাকার্তায় মিয়ানমারের দূতাবাসে ককটেল হামলার ঘটনা ঘটেছে।

রোববার গভীর রাতে মিয়ানমার দূতাবাস ভবনের দ্বিতীয় তলায় ককটেল নিক্ষেপ করা হয়। এসময় ককটেলের বিস্ফোরণে অগ্নিকাণ্ডের ঘটনা ঘটে। খবর রয়টার্সের।

মিয়ানমারে সম্প্রতি রোহিঙ্গা নির্যাতনকে ঘিরে ব্যাপক উত্তেজনার মাঝে ইন্দোনেশিয়ায় দেশটির দূতাবাসে ককটেল হামলার এ ঘটনা ঘটেছে।

জাকার্তা পুলিশের বিবৃতিতে বলছে, দূতাবাসের পেছনের একটি সড়কে পুলিশের এক কর্মকর্তা টহল দেয়ার সময় মিয়ানমার দূতাবাস ভবনের দ্বিতীয় তলায় আগুন দেখতে পান। স্থানীয় সময় রাত দুইটা ৩৫ মিনিটের দিকে আগুন দেখতে পেয়ে তিনি দূতাবাসের সামনের ফটকে থাকা পুলিশ কর্মকর্তাদেরকে সতর্ক করে দেন।

বিবৃতিতে ইন্দোনেশিয়া পুলিশ বলছে, আগুন নিভিয়ে ফেলার পর পুলিশ ওই স্থানে বিয়ারের ভাঙা বোতল পায়; এর মাথায় পলতা বাঁধা ছিল। এসময় ঘটনাস্থল থেকে এমপিভি গাড়িতে করে সন্দেহভাজন অজ্ঞাত হামলাকারী পালিয়ে যায়।

পুলিশের এক মুখপাত্র বলেন, এ ঘটনায় তদন্ত শুরু করেছে জাকার্তা পুলিশ। দূতাবাসে হামলার উদ্দেশ্য সম্পর্কে জানতে পারেনি।

এর আগে শনিবার দূতাবাসের কাছে একদল অ্যাক্টিভিস্ট মিয়ানমারের নেত্রী অং সান সু চির শান্তির নোবেল কেড়ে নেয়ার দাবিতে বিক্ষোভ করেন।

ইন্দোনেশিয়ার রাষ্ট্রীয় সংবাদ সংস্থা আনতারা বলছে, জাকার্তার প্রধান কেন্দ্রেও রোববার বিক্ষোভ করেছেন মানবাধিকার কর্মীরা। রোহিঙ্গা সম্প্রদায়ের মানবাধিকার লঙ্ঘন ও সমস্যা সমাধানে ইন্দোনেশিয়া সরকারকে সক্রিয় ভূমিকার রাখার দাবি জানিয়েছেন তারা।
উৎসঃ যুগান্তর
http://www.newsofbd.net/newsdetail/detail/34/333108

 

[Nike]

I am only supporting MM take out the terrorists. Not all Rohingya are terrorist of course, only some are (and no one really knows the number or prevalence). Many regular Rohingya provide support to such groups though and delineating that is always an issue in the response. On top of all of this, the new conflict of course creates regular stream of refugees anyway...which ones of those are directly culpable, semi-culpable or totally non-culpable w.r.t the terrorism + terrorism support? Never easy to answer that, in fact its largely impossible given the emotions running on both sides.

Way I see it, the problem only gets addressed seriously if you physically remove as much rohingya from arakan and put them in BD (BD being both the origin of these people and closest country to the conflict area)....whatever anyone opinion on the morality of that solution. There is simply no more inherent, underlying trust between Myanmar + Arakanese on one side and Rohingya on other side (and each side will always blame the other one as "starting it"/"expanding it" etc)....and maybe it never existed in first place.

Thus such a situation is not sustainable (in interest of human life preservation and social stability) and whichever option addressed separation of these populations should be done first. Occam razor suggests that Rohingya move away, sell off what they can in MM and start new lives in BD. When you give enough time, there can then be rapprochement and better settling of these problems in the future.

But the BD members proposals for Rohingya to stay put and start some terrorist/guerilla/militant strategy against Myanmar will only result in more deaths on both sides (and it will be mostly stacked against Rohingya)....for the sake of what? It's mostly to address their own seriously flawed ego essentially. That is always bad reason when human lives and futures are at stake. BD will get financial support to support and rehabilitate the Rohingya anyway when it asks relevant countries and organisations....that should be the focus of BD now.....they (both BD and Rohingya) are not going to win eye for an eye style with MM.

There is simply no easy solutions about this. So far Indonesia and Malaysia trying to brokering peace process between Rohingyas and Myanmar government trough bangladesh channel. So far this approach kinda worked till When some terrorist outfit attacking Myanmar gov. Soldiers and police. Consequently we are kinda fine if they are trying to pursue and hunt the attacker. As long as the red lines is not crossed (something like Srebenica massacres), i believe Indonesia and Malaysia can only protest and bring true humanitarian air for the affected Rohingyas about this "forced relocation" here and there in Arakan.

But when the Red line is crossed, i dont believe Indonesia and Malaysia top politician will sit iddly, both countries had significant Islam parties and fleeting voters in which their voices need to be catering by politician especially when both Countries is in near election year. If you reading carefully about Malaysian, they had nasty habit to arming, funding and train Militants outfits from many Muslim world countries, (the recent example is MILF, insurgence in Southern Thailand, and till now including Hamas and Chechen). It will be bad if someday they chose to do so again in Myanmar. In the end i believe Myanmar not such a fool to cross the line in which will damaging themselves

 

[Mugwop]

It is about religion otherwise you won't be posting on this thread I don't see you guys talking about arming tibetan's or any others .
There are more than 50 Muslims countries ,don't tell me you can accommodate these people
India has said will take all the Hindus,sikhs.,jains who are escaping oppression,we don't place and restrictions on the numbers,we have been taking Hindus from both Pakistan and BD,but you won't see us talking about arming them.

My question is simple you claim Islam is religion of peace and I know for a fact,Islam says killing an innocent is like killing the whole humanity,when you guys advocate arming them are you sure innocents will not be killed.

No you are wrong,you will not see us talking about arming them,infact we have been taking then when ever they came asking for it

Oh please! You are the only one crying about religion. I am posting here to figure out the root cause of this rohingya issue.

Don't pretend to be a saint you and your people openly support bla terrorists even tried to fund and arm them. bla has no correlation with indians. Rohingyas have no correlation with india either they are natives to myanmar.

Why should we care or give shelter about Rohingyas?

They are essentially Bangladeshis.

I know right what were those rohingyas thinking trying to flee to india.
gitmo is a better place for them compared to india.

 

[Loafer]

Oh please! You are the only one crying about religion. I am posting here to figure out the root cause of this rohingya issue.

Don't pretend to be a saint you and your people openly support bla terrorists even tried to fund and arm them. bla has no correlation with indians. Rohingyas have no correlation with india either they are natives to myanmar.


I know right what were those rohingyas thinking trying to flee to india.
gitmo is a better place for them compared to india.

This sense is not available to Pakistanis who die to get visas and illegal Bangladeshis who flock in millions.

 

[UKBengali]

@madokafc

And you claim you are Muslim?


We know that you Indonesians are cowards as
your men are effeminate and so no-one is
asking you to go and fight.
At least have some quality and condemn these
Barman savages who are clearly bigoted against
Muslims.

 

[Nike]

@madokafc

And you claim you are Muslim?


We know that you Indonesians are cowards as
your men are effeminate and so no-one is
asking you to go and fight.
At least have some quality and condemn these
Barman savages who are clearly bigoted against
Muslims.

Lol, talking though but no action is what Bd can do. Indonesian today acting mature in International stages. Unless something in scale of Srebenica massacre happened we can only protest and asking clarification about what happened there and here and giving humanitarian aids. After all thats Myanmar internal conflict. Thats the least we can do. How about your country! how many Myanmar Chopper flying trough your border? If Myanmar Rakhine state is at our border, since day one conflict happened we will seal and guards all of the border and put our strength there just like what we had done when Marawi conflict erupted.

 

[Aung Zaya]

I already told you when you Burmese faggots claim something come with neutral source. And you came with social site source...


Source or never happened...

lol the interviews with victim is more stronger evidence than what normal media talk and all are official release. dumbass

 

[Banglar Bir]

https://www.facebook.com/

https://www.facebook.com/

 

[Aung Zaya]

Just keep this in mind @Aung Zaya and make sure all Myanmar people you know understand this is the attitude of even the so called "secular" BAL types in BD.

I know you understand whats needed to be done now though. Happy hunting. Watch these losers cry here about reality unfolding whenever you want. I think it will be a full rest of the year (and probably next year too) long thing now. Aung San Suu Kyi also probably understands the problem quite deeply now and I think will pose no resistance to MM military to get the job done against the terrorists.

agreed.this bangladeshi rats never be good friends with its neighbours.
it's time to hunt down the terrorists. and we will provide more aid and care to peaceful rohingya and thanks to their act who against the ARSA rohingya terrorist. they will be considered priority in giveing citizenship. for the terrorists , there is only doomed days for them in future.

more interviews with victims.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1446104175510443

 

[Banglar Bir]

Sadaan Khan

Turkey and Iran threatens to attack myanmar if UNO continues to be a mere spectator and promote genocide of rohingya. In a joint press conference, President Hasan Ruhani and President Tayeb Erdogan ordered their armed forces to get ready for attack on myanmar

Sadaan Khan

Turkey and Iran threatens to attack myanmar if UNO continues to be a mere spectator and promote genocide of rohingya. In a joint press conference, President Hasan Ruhani and President Tayeb Erdogan ordered their armed forces to get ready for attack on myanmar

 

[Aung Zaya]

silent on hindus being driven out of myanmar?

nope. thousand of hindu already saved from the hand of terrorists. already give shelter , med and food.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1743249202386596

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=788714027968372

also provided food to rohingya who want to live peacefully.
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Muslim villagers who want to stay peacefully provided with food aid

NAY PYI TAW, 3 SEPTEMBER

Security troops have been attempting to protect properties of the people and maintain peace and stability in Northern Rakhine State where ARSA extremist terrorists staged a series of coordinated attacks against police force and ethnic people.

As part of efforts to ensure peace and stability, security personnel met village administrator, religious leaders and Muslim villagers in Pantawpyin (west) Village in Maungtaw Township on 1 September to conduct a security check.

The Muslim villagers disclosed that they strongly denounce the violent attacks in Northern Rakhine State carried out by ARSA extremist terrorists and express their wishes to cooperate with the government. They also pledged to inform about activities of the perpetuators.

Next, the security forces presented food and personal items to the Muslim villagers who want to stay peacefully. It is learnt that the security troops are trying to protect the Muslims who would like to stay peacefully, thereby attempting to expose ARSA extremist terrorists.

Local authorities using loudspeakers have been urging those who would like to stay peacefully to collaborate with security forces. Furthermore, those, who want to stay peacefully are warned not to wield sticks, knives and weapons while the security troops are performing their duties.

(Information Committee)

There is simply no easy solutions about this. So far Indonesia and Malaysia trying to brokering peace process between Rohingyas and Myanmar government trough bangladesh channel. So far this approach kinda worked till When some terrorist outfit attacking Myanmar gov. Soldiers and police. Consequently we are kinda fine if they are trying to pursue and hunt the attacker. As long as the red lines is not crossed (something like Srebenica massacres), i believe Indonesia and Malaysia can only protest and bring true humanitarian air for the affected Rohingyas about this "forced relocation" here and there in Arakan.

But when the Red line is crossed, i dont believe Indonesia and Malaysia top politician will sit iddly, both countries had significant Islam parties and fleeting voters in which their voices need to be catering by politician especially when both Countries is in near election year. If you reading carefully about Malaysian, they had nasty habit to arming, funding and train Militants outfits from many Muslim world countries, (the recent example is MILF, insurgence in Southern Thailand, and till now including Hamas and Chechen). It will be bad if someday they chose to do so again in Myanmar. In the end i believe Myanmar not such a fool to cross the line in which will damaging themselves

yeah. agreed with u.sis dont worry. we dont cross the red line. but we need to sure the state stability and clearance of terrorist who can hurt both community under law control. we now negotiating with Red Cross to start the aid providing process. this is official release from Gov.

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The Government of Myanmar will ensure the effective provision of humanitarian assistance to all inhabitants displaced by terrorist attacks in Rakhine State

Nay Pyi Taw September 4

The government of Myanmar has the primary responsibility to ensure that humanitarian assistance is provided to all who have been displaced by the recent terror attacks in Rakhine State. Effective measures are being put in place by the Government to provide humanitarian assistance to all those affected by the terrorist attacks. To implement this, the Government will work together with the Red Cross Movement.

A Coordination Meeting was held today at the Ministry of the Office of the State Counsellor.

The Meeting was attended by Union Minister for the Office of the State Counsellor U Kyaw Tint Swe, Union Minister for Social Welfare, Relief and Resettlement Dr. Win Myat Aye, National Security Advisor to the Union Government U Thaung Tun, Deputy Minister U Khin Maung Tin, the Secretary of the Rakhine State government and responsible personnel. Also present at the Meeting were development partner countries represented by Ambassadors of United Kingdom, United States, Denmark and the Charge d’Affairesa.i. of the Australian Embassy, the Charge d’Affairesa.i. of the Delegation of the European Union and the UN Resident Representative, as well as representatives from the Myanmar Red Cross Society (MRCS), the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Society (IFRC).

The Government’s plan to provide humanitarian assistance was intimated at the Meeting. The Meeting discussed how the international community could most effectively support the Government’s efforts to provide humanitarian assistance to all inhabitants of Rakhine State who have been displaced since 25 August 2017 by terrorist attacks.

so. dont worry. sis. the process is about begin. really thanks for understanding our situation.
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[Banglar Bir]

Myanmarese press reports of NAY PYI TAW, could not youargh: find any other credible sources?

 

[Nabil365]

Myanmarese press reports of NAY PYI TAW, could not youargh: find any other credible sources?

More facebook videos and when we show them videos of interviews from victim it becomes fake but their ones are credible.

 

[TopCat]

Sadaan Khan

Turkey and Iran threatens to attack myanmar if UNO continues to be a mere spectator and promote genocide of rohingya. In a joint press conference, President Hasan Ruhani and President Tayeb Erdogan ordered their armed forces to get ready for attack on myanmar

Sadaan Khan

Turkey and Iran threatens to attack myanmar if UNO continues to be a mere spectator and promote genocide of rohingya. In a joint press conference, President Hasan Ruhani and President Tayeb Erdogan ordered their armed forces to get ready for attack on myanmar

Any source?

There is simply no easy solutions about this. So far Indonesia and Malaysia trying to brokering peace process between Rohingyas and Myanmar government trough bangladesh channel. So far this approach kinda worked till When some terrorist outfit attacking Myanmar gov. Soldiers and police. Consequently we are kinda fine if they are trying to pursue and hunt the attacker. As long as the red lines is not crossed (something like Srebenica massacres), i believe Indonesia and Malaysia can only protest and bring true humanitarian air for the affected Rohingyas about this "forced relocation" here and there in Arakan.

But when the Red line is crossed, i dont believe Indonesia and Malaysia top politician will sit iddly, both countries had significant Islam parties and fleeting voters in which their voices need to be catering by politician especially when both Countries is in near election year. If you reading carefully about Malaysian, they had nasty habit to arming, funding and train Militants outfits from many Muslim world countries, (the recent example is MILF, insurgence in Southern Thailand, and till now including Hamas and Chechen). It will be bad if someday they chose to do so again in Myanmar. In the end i believe Myanmar not such a fool to cross the line in which will damaging themselves

Don't call ARSA a terrorist organization as none of the media, country or UN used the term except Burmese thugs and you.
Initial indication suggest its a secular insurgency and if they live up with their coomitmetment, the help could be on their way. There seems that they already earned popular suuport from bd. If BD wants they could take the fight to a complete new level. One minister already asking for a safe zone inside mm where mom army will be barred from entering. This is the first time such suggestion came from BD government. Wait for few more weeks

Stop being a thug and smell some fresh air.

 

[Mugwop]

This sense is not available to Pakistanis who die to get visas and illegal Bangladeshis who flock in millions.

They get paid for their talent they don't die.
Meanwhile indians spam our forums due to lack of talent and jealousy

nope. thousand of hindu already saved from the hand of terrorists. already give shelter , med and food.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1743249202386596

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=788714027968372

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also provided food to rohingya who want to live peacefully.
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Muslim villagers who want to stay peacefully provided with food aid

NAY PYI TAW, 3 SEPTEMBER

Security troops have been attempting to protect properties of the people and maintain peace and stability in Northern Rakhine State where ARSA extremist terrorists staged a series of coordinated attacks against police force and ethnic people.

As part of efforts to ensure peace and stability, security personnel met village administrator, religious leaders and Muslim villagers in Pantawpyin (west) Village in Maungtaw Township on 1 September to conduct a security check.

The Muslim villagers disclosed that they strongly denounce the violent attacks in Northern Rakhine State carried out by ARSA extremist terrorists and express their wishes to cooperate with the government. They also pledged to inform about activities of the perpetuators.

Next, the security forces presented food and personal items to the Muslim villagers who want to stay peacefully. It is learnt that the security troops are trying to protect the Muslims who would like to stay peacefully, thereby attempting to expose ARSA extremist terrorists.

Local authorities using loudspeakers have been urging those who would like to stay peacefully to collaborate with security forces. Furthermore, those, who want to stay peacefully are warned not to wield sticks, knives and weapons while the security troops are performing their duties.

(Information Committee)
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yeah. agreed with u.sis dont worry. we dont cross the red line. but we need to sure the state stability and clearance of terrorist who can hurt both community under law control. we now negotiating with Red Cross to start the aid providing process. this is official release from Gov.

=====================================================================
The Government of Myanmar will ensure the effective provision of humanitarian assistance to all inhabitants displaced by terrorist attacks in Rakhine State

Nay Pyi Taw September 4

The government of Myanmar has the primary responsibility to ensure that humanitarian assistance is provided to all who have been displaced by the recent terror attacks in Rakhine State. Effective measures are being put in place by the Government to provide humanitarian assistance to all those affected by the terrorist attacks. To implement this, the Government will work together with the Red Cross Movement.

A Coordination Meeting was held today at the Ministry of the Office of the State Counsellor.

The Meeting was attended by Union Minister for the Office of the State Counsellor U Kyaw Tint Swe, Union Minister for Social Welfare, Relief and Resettlement Dr. Win Myat Aye, National Security Advisor to the Union Government U Thaung Tun, Deputy Minister U Khin Maung Tin, the Secretary of the Rakhine State government and responsible personnel. Also present at the Meeting were development partner countries represented by Ambassadors of United Kingdom, United States, Denmark and the Charge d’Affairesa.i. of the Australian Embassy, the Charge d’Affairesa.i. of the Delegation of the European Union and the UN Resident Representative, as well as representatives from the Myanmar Red Cross Society (MRCS), the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Society (IFRC).

The Government’s plan to provide humanitarian assistance was intimated at the Meeting. The Meeting discussed how the international community could most effectively support the Government’s efforts to provide humanitarian assistance to all inhabitants of Rakhine State who have been displaced since 25 August 2017 by terrorist attacks.
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so. dont worry. sis. the process is about begin. really thanks for understanding our situation.
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ARSA? How were they formed and who's funding them?