Rods in Haryana trace their lineage to Maratha soldiers

[Cobra Arbok]

Yes that Maratha bullshit theory started as a political stunt to gather vote in Haryana elections. If you could look at my pic then you have guessed. We are Jats and found in Punjab, Sindh,Haryana,Western UP and Northern Rajasthan.

Interesting, Did not know that. Still some of those surnames sound Marathi, any reason for that?
Thanks again.

 

[Sam.]

Interesting, Did not know that. Still some of those surnames sound Marathi, any reason for that?
Thanks again.

Marathi is a language and not a race i guess you knew that.
Indian language derived from Indo-Aryan language so similarities can be there. As for the similar surname i have no idea as never looked into it.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Marathi is a language and not a race i guess you knew that.
Indian language derived from Indo-Aryan language so similarities can be there. As for the similar surname i have no idea as never looked into it.

Fair enough. Thank you for the informative responses, I learned a lot. On a side note, I do not think it is unreasonable that there are some descendants of Marathas in Haryana and the surrounding regions, since a lot of Maratha Soldiers stayed behind in places that were once part of the Empire. I have heard that there are even some Maratha descendants in KP and Balochistan.

 

[Sam.]

Fair enough. Thank you for the informative responses, I learned a lot. On a side note, I do not think it is unreasonable that there are some descendants of Marathas in Haryana and the surrounding regions, since a lot of Maratha Soldiers stayed behind in places that were once part of the Empire. I have heard that there are even some Maratha descendants in KP and Balochistan.

Possibilities are there but i am only talking about thread topic which was created to gather votes by politicians.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Possibilities are there but i am only talking about thread topic which was created to gather votes by politicians.

Oh okay. Like I said I am not aware of the political issues associated with this topic. Sorry about that.

 

[niaz]

Rajput kingdoms of old spread as far south as Marwar and also included the modern-day Haryana.

Even though Maharashtra traditionally began more than 100 Km further south; Maratha Empire of the 18th century encompassed much larger area and included most of northern India including Punjab. Hence it is quite possible that some remnants of the Maratha army settled in Haryana.

However, the controversy whether RODs of Haryana are descended from the Marathas or not can easily be resolved through DNA analysis.

 

[Nilu Pule]

They are impostors.

Marathas are found in MP,Gujarat and even tamil nadu. But these marathas speak marathi and have maratha surnames.

These rors are bunch of phoneys who want claim someone else's heritage.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

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Rods in Haryana trace their lineage to Maratha soldiers

Rods in Haryana trace their lineage to Maratha soldiers
The Rods in Haryana trace their lineage to Maratha soldiers who survived the third battle of Panipat.
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UDAY MAHURKAR
January 14, 2012
ISSUE DATE: January 23, 2012
UPDATED: January 21, 2012 14:38 IST

Rod community elders at the memorial built in 1992 to mark the field where the 3rd battle of Panipat was fought in 1761.
For over two centuries now, a question that has defied an answer has been: what became of the Maratha soldiers who disappeared on January 14, 1761, after the third battle of Panipat? On the 250th anniversary of the great battle, there is finally an answer.
Research conducted over eight years by Vasantrao More, 79, a well-known historian attached to Kolhapur University, and Virendra Singh Varma, 64, a former Haryana bureaucrat and president of the Maratha Jagruti Manch, has uncovered evidence to prove that the six lakh-strong Rod community, spread across 230 villages around Panipat, has descended from the 500-odd Maratha soldiers who hid in jungles around Panipat after being scattered by Afghan Ahmad Shah Abdali's forces. The team spent over Rs 15 lakh on the study and was funded mainly by the Manch, a Karnal-based NGO.

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Naresh
NARESH KHOKHARE, 36
A FARMER AT JHANJHARI VILLAGE
IN HARYANA'S KARNAL DISTRICT
"The Rods are the only
ones in the area today to
retain their love for horses
like the Marathas." More than 50,000 Maratha soldiers were slain in the battle. Amongst those killed were Sadashivrao Bhau and Vishwasrao, Peshwa Balaji Baji Rao's son, along with Maratha commanders Jankoji and Tukoji Scindia of the Gwalior royal family and Yashwantrao Pawar of the Dewas family. The gallant Muslim commander of the Maratha artillery, Ibrahim Khan Gardi, came in for a particularly gory end at the hands of the invading Afghans for aligning with Hindus in battle.
Says Varma, who first started the investigation into the origin of the Rods a decade ago, "Right from the Marathi words in our Hindi dialect, the style of our old havelis, our love of horses to our surnames and typical customs-they all prove that we are descendants of the lost Maratha soldiers of Panipat. The revelation has filled the entire community with nostalgia and pride."

Adds More, author of The History of Rod Marathas of Panipat Battle, published by Shivsangram Prakashan, Kolhapur, "Research to locate the lost Maratha soldiers of Panipat by the Peshwas and later by scholars of Punjab University failed because none came across the Rod community. Over 80 per cent of Rod surnames match those of Marathas. As do many customs and words in their dialect."

Says eminent Maharashtra historian Jaisinghrao Pawar who has written many books on Maratha history, "The research done by More is outstanding. The conclusions he has drawn are based on an in-depth study of the social, cultural and economic life of the Rods. It proves that the Rods are indeed descendants of the lost Maratha survivors of Panipat."

The matching of surnames is uncanny. The Rods have surnames like Pawar, Chavan, Bhosle, Sawant, Memane, Dudhane, Khokhre, Khasbare, Ghole, Dhabade, Bodle, Jhondhle, Shelar, Batane, to name a few. Many words in their language are typically Marathi. They call puran poli, a Maharashtrian sweet roti, poli. They refer to a rupee as hon, which was what Chhatrapati Shivaji's currency was called. They stand out in Haryana for eating dal and rice at night, a common practice among villagers in Maharashtra even today.

Lakhpat Singh Thardak
LAKHPAT SINGH
THARDAK, 80
FARMER FROM PANODI
VILLAGE IN KARNAL
DISTRICT OF HARYANA
Photographs by VIKRAM SHARMA/www.indiatodayimages.com
"The only difference between this
entrance gate and the gates of the
havelis in Maharashtra is that their
version is made of black stone while
we used wood and carved it." As many of the soldiers in the battle of Panipat were from the Konkan region of Maharashtra, that explains why Rod songs have mention of the sea, unheard of in Haryana. And, interestingly, the Rods assign a prominent role to the maternal uncle in any wedding, similar to the practice in Maharashtra. Though the Rod women dress like other Haryanvis, their style of covering their heads before elders is also akin to women in rural Maharashtra.
Says Hari Singh Pawar, 63, a Rod farmer from Kemla village near Karnal in Haryana, "We have no doubt that we are descendants of the Panipat survivors. Till recently, every Rod home had swords and spears and our love for horses was legendary." Agrees Lakhpat Singh Thardak, 80, who sports a simple white safa and has gold rings in both ears in Maratha fashion, "The Rods are the only ones in the area today to retain their love for horses like the Marathas."

The village had, till recently, a number of Maratha-style havelis. One such old dilapidated haveli can be seen in Jhanjhari village. It has a richly carved rectangular wooden door beneath an arched entrance. Says Naresh Khokhare, 36, a farmer, "The only difference between this entrance gate and the gates of havelis in Maharashtra is that their version is made of black stone while we used wood and carved it."

A simple, though by no means less conclusive, proof of the Maratha heritage of the Rods is the practice of saying "Chhatrapati ki Jai" (long live Chhatrapati Shivaji ) at the drop of a hat. Says Inderraj Singh Dudhane, 81, of Dadupur Kasa village in Karnal district, "Even when a child sneezed, our mothers would say 'Chhatrapati ki Jai'." Adds Abharam Dudhane, 86, sitting beside him, "As in Maharashtra, we give a lot of importance to Bhai Dooj that follows Diwali, compared to Rakshabandhan."

Says Kuldip Singh Bhonsle, a Rod farmer who lives in the Kunjpura fort near Panipat, "That we are descendents of the survivors of Panipat battle has given us a new, proud identity." While a memorial, built in 1992 by the Haryana government, marks the field where the battle was fought, More and Varma want another one built to the survivors who went on to create a little slice of Maharashtra in the heart of Haryana


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Interesting, we have people here that are descendants of Maratha prisoners.

 

[Mamluk]

What's Rod? You mean "Rors"? They have nothing to do with Marathas.

Marathas are genetically similar to mid-caste South Indians. Rors on the other hand have more Indo-Aryan/Steppe in their DNA than North Indian Brahmins.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

What's Rod? You mean "Rors"? They have nothing to do with Marathas.

Marathas are genetically similar to mid-caste South Indians. Rors on the other hand have more Indo-Aryan/Steppe in their DNA than North Indian Brahmins.

That's what Sam told me. Although Marathas are not like South Indians. To be honest "Maratha" is somewhat of a vague term that consists of various castes(Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj was actually a Shudra), I would say on average the only South Indians who look like them are South Indian Brahmins such as Tamil Iyers(I am actually half Tamil Iyer). As a whole, Marathis and Konkanis look somewhere between Gujaratis and South Indians. Maharashtra is a huge state, so obviously there are variations.

On a side note, I do think it is possible that Maratha soldiers/prisoners settled in various places of the Maratha Empire. In this community in particular, there many of them have Marathi surnames. As @Talwar e Pakistan said, there are even some Maratha descendants in Kp and balochistan.

Interesting, we have people here that are descendants of Maratha prisoners.

Just curious, are there any notable individuals descended from them? I also know that there is a decent sized Marathi Muslim community in Karachi. A lot of Maratha nobles actually converted to Islam like Rajputs, and many of their descendants ended up in Pakistan.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Just curious, are there any notable individuals descended from them? I also know that there is a decent sized Marathi Muslim community in Karachi. A lot of Maratha nobles actually converted to Islam like Rajputs, and many of their descendants ended up in Pakistan.

I don't know much about them, so I can't say.

 

[Yogijaat]

This is BS.

Rods are just another haryanvi, their lifestyle, culture is more closer to jats than anything else. They are cocentrated in some villages of Karnal and panipat.

That's what Sam told me. Although Marathas are not like South Indians. To be honest "Maratha" is somewhat of a vague term that consists of various castes(Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj was actually a Shudra), I would say on average the only South Indians who look like them are South Indian Brahmins such as Tamil Iyers(I am actually half Tamil Iyer). As a whole, Marathis and Konkanis look somewhere between Gujaratis and South Indians. Maharashtra is a huge state, so obviously there are variations.

On a side note, I do think it is possible that Maratha soldiers/prisoners settled in various places of the Maratha Empire. In this community in particular, there many of them have Marathi surnames. As @Talwar e Pakistan said, there are even some Maratha descendants in Kp and balochistan.

Just curious, are there any notable individuals descended from them? I also know that there is a decent sized Marathi Muslim community in Karachi. A lot of Maratha nobles actually converted to Islam like Rajputs, and many of their descendants ended up in Pakistan.

They look no different than locals from the same region.

 

[Kabira]

These people look like marasis and nai in my village.

 

[Yogijaat]

These people look like marasis and nai in my village.

Elites and poor of same region are usually of same ethnicity. Your marasis and nais if depig ented a little would look exactly same like you.

 

[Kabira]

Elites and poor of same region are usually of same ethnicity. Your marasis and nais if depig ented a little would look exactly same like you.

No, mirasis in my village look like these haryanvi rods. I'm not exaggerating, can post pictures if you want.