Rising above differences!

[Imran Khan]

its not too late lets try one more time

 

[Norwegian]

You thought of that when you were eleven

No, but being a kid, I knew how nuclear bombs worked on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. These bombs are just used for muscle flexing. No one dares using them, unless you are completely insane.

 

[FaujHistorian]

I thought this was the time to achieve final peace accord as doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction forced USSR and USA to abide by the peace treaties.

Actually it wasn't that straightforward between USA and Commies.

If you read history, Commies had many leaders like Modi who openly threatened USA
And USA in reply used to threaten as well.

MAD was not something where Commies and USA were holding hands singing songs.

our defense minister threatened India with nukes again. What peace?:

No he did not. I saw the interview.

He was responding to a "if but if but if but" question.

Ideally our minister should have given a more measured reply like "if the water comes we'll see........".

But then you have to be extremely well read to be able to hide the real thing in diplomatically phrased terms.

You thought of that when you were eleven

11? He was thinking like this even when he was 4.

Some people are born philosophers.

Don't you know?

 

[vitalsign]

People in Pakistan won't stop voting PPP when they use such useless slangs anyway. I am not sure about BJP though.

Yeah people are just stupid. These two parties PMLN and PPP haven't done nothing for country but people still vote them and just cry for 5 years and next time elect them again. WTH.

 

[salarsikander]

Both countries are developing and have lot of scope for development. Why don't you settle it down ?

EGO

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Then what are going to do with idiots like: Marsoon Marsoon, Kashmir Nah Desoon?

Conflicts are always kept alive by the vested minority, not the majority. Hafiz Saeed was not elected by anyone in Pakistan, and India and Pak were about to come to a historic agreement and he singlehandedly holds up the distinies of a billion people.

 

[Norwegian]

Yeah people are just stupid. These two parties PMLN and PPP haven't done nothing for country but people still vote them and just cry for 5 years and next time elect them again. WTH.

I won't say nothing. Who else would have plundered this nation's resources for personal greed other than these two parties?

Conflicts are always kept alive by the vested minority, not the majority. Hafiz Saeed was not elected by anyone in Pakistan, and India and Pak were about to come to a historic agreement and he singlehandedly holds up the distinies of a billion people.

He didn't act alone. Such acts of terror cannot be committed unless they have a big hand providing resources from behind, such as the ISI.

 

[Styx]

its not too late lets try one more time

relations are at an almost all time low, but given that there hasn't been a major incident yet, now might be a good time to initiate dialogue again.

could be because of a hawkish Modi led govt but the the paranoia is stronger on the Pak side, your media have gone completely ballistic with "raw did it" these days, like a massive army/ISI psyop to get people to rally behind them

 

[Guynextdoor2]

I won't say nothing. Who else would have plundered this nation's resources for personal greed other than these two parties?


He didn't act alone. Such acts of terror cannot be committed unless they have a big hand providing resources from behind, such as the ISI.

ANd they too were not 'representatives' of the state. They were just employees of the state doing their own thing according to their own ideas of how the world should be. This really is the case of an unelected minority driving a hostile agenda. Sure the partition killed dozens of saeed's relatives, as with millions of hindus too. To try to make his personal vendetta the mission of an entire nation and bring two countries into conflict is just insanity.

 

[Norwegian]

relations are at an almost all time low, but given that there hasn't been a major incident yet, now might be a good time to initiate dialogue again.

Its funny. Both India and Pakistan, as well as Israel and Palestine base their relations on these so-called incidents committed by a minority of terrorists. It seems they are not interested in peace that majority of people want if they care so much about their minorities.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Its funny. Both India and Pakistan, as well as Israel and Palestine base their relations on these so-called incidents committed by a minority of terrorists. It seems they are not interested in peace that majority of people want if they care so much about their minorities.

But that's the point. The Homeric wars were ostensibly for Helen but more than that. It's not the number of people that died that makes the difference, it is the principle. And that's the power the non-state actors have.

 

[Imran Khan]

relations are at an almost all time low, but given that there hasn't been a major incident yet, now might be a good time to initiate dialogue again.

could be because of a hawkish Modi led govt but the the paranoia is stronger on the Pak side, your media have gone completely ballistic with "raw did it" these days, like a massive army/ISI psyop to get people to rally behind them

its not all time low sir we have seen too much low in past if you remember

 

[Norwegian]

But that's the point. The Homeric wars were ostensibly for Helen but more than that. It's not the number of people that died that makes the difference, it is the principle. And that's the power the non-state actors have.

Its even more funny that a minority of terrorists can derail an historic peace deal. Was that peace deal so weak to begin with?

 

[Styx]

Its funny. Both India and Pakistan, as well as Israel and Palestine base their relations on these so-called incidents committed by a minority of terrorists. It seems they are not interested in peace that majority of people want if they care so much about their minorities.

I get what you're saying, but no. it's not funny.. stuff like 26/11 jolts a nation, people want to rally behind the forces and want blood.. same for Pakistani awaam when your media say stuff like "RAW funded the peshawar guys", some fool gets mad and decides it's time for jihad...

a neverending self perpetuating cycle of hate

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Its even more funny that a minority of terrorists can derail an historic peace deal. Was that peace deal so weak to begin with?

No it's more than just a question of that. The credibility of your partner and his intentions are everything. Else any 'peace deal' is just a piece of paper. Deals of this sort are rubbished repeatedly by the likes of Hitler. Once you prove that you can't control existential threats, that your state is not able to prosecute those that represent that threat, there is no credibility. We all know that no member of the ISI will be held accountable or prosecuted, so state and non state actors have no commitment. So what's the point of the deal?