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Rise of the Chinese naval power is unstoppable

Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff who visited Delhi this week for talks with Indian officials, is reported to have told Indian media persons on July 23,2010, that China's aggressive posturing over territorial claims in the Pacific and Indian Ocean regions was a matter of concern that the US shared with India.

He has been quoted by rediff.com as saying as follows: "China seems to be asserting itself more and more with respect to the kinds of territorial claims.

They seem to be taking a much more aggressive approach to the near-sea areas recently....There is growing concern over it. In my perspective, we (the US) must work with India in this regard.In my recent interactions with its leadership, India too has expressed similar concerns." He gave the example of recent public statements by China about the US Navy operating in the Yellow Sea. Noting that the US navy was in the international waters, Mullen said despite such remarks by China, the US would continue to operate in the international waters there.

According to rediff.com, Admiral Mullen said further that the US believed China was shifting focus from land-centric to air and maritime capabilities. "Fairly recently I have gone from being curious about where China is headed to being concerned about it.

One of the characteristics that does not exist as far as China appears militarily is transparency. In fact, there is opaqueness to it that we continue to really scratch our heads about from a military standpoint. We have virtually no relationship with the Chinese military. If we have such relationship, we can agree on and disagree on, and also we can learn from each other."

He pointed out that the Pacific and Indian Ocean regions were critical to economic and trade activities and that stability in these two regions was absolutely vital.

One was gratified by his observations because one was intrigued by the relative silence of the US media over the increasing naval assertiveness of China in the South and East China Seas and in the Yellow Sea and by its repeated demand since the beginning of this year for equality of status with the US Navy in the Western Pacific.

In the past, the Chinese used to project themselves as a rising economic power, but were coy on their military power----particularly naval power. Now, for the last few months, they don't fight shy of projecting themselves as a rising naval power.

Since the crisis broke out in March following the North Korean sinking of a South Korean naval vessel and particularly since the US and South Korea announced a programme for a series of joint naval exercises to deter Norh Korea from any more such adventurist actions,Chinese media and strategic experts, including some from the Navy and the faculty of some Chinese training institutions, including their National Defence University, have been talking and writing increasingly of what they project as a looming naval conflict between a hegemonist naval power (US) and a rising naval power (China).

They strongly opposed the US-South Korea naval exercises covering the Yellow Sea and warned of the dangers of incidents if the US and South Korea went ahead with their exercises, which would involve the participation of a nuclear-powered aircraft-carrier of the US Navy.

Even after the US and South Korea indicated that their naval exercise starting on July 25---- which would be the first in the series---- would not cover the Yellow Sea, the Chinese have kept up their campaign. Their Foreign Office claims to have issued five warnings to the US not to send its ships into the Yellow Sea.

The following points emerge clearly from the recent Chinese campaign:

* Firstly, the rise of the Chinese naval power is unstoppable.

* Secondly, instead of trying to counter it, the US should accommodate itself with it by accepting the new reality in the Western Pacific as a result of the rise of the Chinese Navy.

* Thirdly, China is keen to improve its military-military relations with the US, but this will be possible only if the US accepts this reality and pays attention to the Chinese sensitivities on maritime issues and Chinese interests in the Yellow Sea.

Chinese expectations are no longer confined to US understanding Chinese sensitivities on arms sales to Taiwan. Beijing now has an expanded list of core sensitivities.

The Chinese are not yet talking---at least openly---- of their aspirations as an Indian Ocean power, but it is only a question of time before they start doing so and challenging any Indian primacy in the Indian Ocean Region.

In their long-term plans to do so, they will first try to undermine the Indian naval influence in the countries such as Sri Lanka, Maldives, Seychelles and Mauritius and use repeated invitations from the Pakistani political leadership and Armed Forces to make greater use of the naval facilities in Pakistan for their ships in the Indian Ocean.

Annexed is an article on co-operation between the Chinese and the Pakistani Navies carried by the "China Daily" on July 22,2010. There is a need for a joint monitoring of Chinese naval activities by India and the US.

Sri Lanka Guardian: Monitoring China's Naval Assertiveness
 
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Sri Lanka PM already in China

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Chinese Vice President Xi Jingping affirmed that Government of China will pledge its continuous support to the economic development and well being of Sri Lanka. Mr. Xi Jingping made these remarks at an official meeting held with Prime Minister D. M. Jayaratne at Great Hall of People’s Republic of China, yesterday.

During the discussion Prime Minister Mr. Jayaratne conveyed warm wishes of President Mahinda Rajapaksa and the people of Sri Lanka to Chinese Vice President Xi Jingping and through him to President Hu Jintao.

Further, Mr. Jayaratne expressed gratitude for the assistance extended to Sri Lanka by Chinese Government and for the continuous support pledged for infrastructure development.


Prime Minister D. M. Jayaratne meets Chinese Vice President Xi Jingping
 
Lol CN is not that unstopabel it's just a poor excuse to make tax payees give every penny to em
 
Lets see who is operating an air craft carrier.
USA =yes
India = Yes
china = no
Pakistan = no

Talks a lot about ambitions.
By the way, indians ocean doesnt belongs to India as whole of it. Or wait, is that also part of "akhand bharat" dream???
 
Lets see who is operating an air craft carrier.
USA =yes
India = Yes
china = no
Pakistan = no

Talks a lot about ambitions.
By the way, indians ocean doesnt belongs to India as whole of it. Or wait, is that also part of "akhand bharat" dream???


I CANT SAY ABOUT US ACC, BUT INDIAN ACC IS A SITTING DUCK,IT IS ONLY THERE TO KEEP MORAL HIGH, U WONT SEE IT ANY WERE NEAR PAK WATER'S DURING ANY FUTURE HOSTALITIES. :cheers:
 
"challenging any Indian primacy in the Indian Ocean Region."

The most powerful navy in the Indian Ocean is not the Indian navy. Its the US navy. Why would there be any Indian primacy in the IOR?
 
Verbal compaigns and propaganda don't change the minds of military planners. They look at capability and history. The Chinese government knows this; they're just trying to appease their nationalists.
 
I CANT SAY ABOUT US ACC, BUT INDIAN ACC IS A SITTING DUCK,IT IS ONLY THERE TO KEEP MORAL HIGH, U WONT SEE IT ANY WERE NEAR PAK WATER'S DURING ANY FUTURE HOSTALITIES. :cheers:

take a look what IAC did to u in the past
 
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Lets see who is operating an air craft carrier.
USA =yes
India = Yes
china = no
Pakistan = no

Talks a lot about ambitions.
By the way, indians ocean doesnt belongs to India as whole of it. Or wait, is that also part of "akhand bharat" dream???

"Ambitions" are related to future plans.

So if your talking about "ambitions" then PLAN is currently refitting the Varyag and has plans to build 2 indigenous 60,000 ton carriers by 2015.
 
umm if i look at it in my point of view to get to US navy china will have to wait till 2025 beacuse US navy is preety much stacked with every thing soo itll be before billions invested that they can meet the US navy superiority
 
umm if i look at it in my point of view to get to US navy china will have to wait till 2025 beacuse US navy is preety much stacked with every thing soo itll be before billions invested that they can meet the US navy superiority

That's only if they try to emulate the USN and it's global power projection capability.

PLAN doesn't need 12 super carriers and associated battle groups.

It needs to be able to project power in its own back yard which can be do done with subs, surface vessels, land based planes and missile force, so it would be wiser for China to spend money on these because they would give a lot more bang-for-buck.

The carriers will help in protecting Chinese interests further afield.
 
That's only if they try to emulate the USN and it's global power projection capability.

PLAN doesn't need 12 super carriers and associated battle groups.

It needs to be able to project power in its own back yard which can be do done with subs, surface vessels, land based planes and missile force, so it would be wiser for China to spend money on these because they would give a lot more bang-for-buck.

The carriers will help in protecting Chinese interests further afield.

I'm not so sure. First priority would definitely be security in the yellow sea, but you don't need a blue water fleet and that's what china is building. I think China is looking for limited strategic power projection to secure the S. China sea and to secure trade routes in the Indian ocean.
 
it's nothing about aggression or ambitions, China has become the largest exporting country ,we have to protect our globle interest around the world,US reconnaissance ship always cruise around china's territorial waters ,india army always talk about how to cut china's trading and energy line, we can't prevent these dangers from happening if we don't a powerful navy
 
But wouldent china need more carriers in the future? Beacuse they do need an offensive capability?
 

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