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Rise of Iran and China

:rofl: Keep playing before Bhabi comes back and straighten you up. It is so wonderful, first we have mothers and then we have mother and wife. It seems boys never grow up really.

But your point was appreciated and these four great countries have to learn to put their differences aside so that their greater interest can be served and lead the world out of the dark ages of Pax America
 
To benefit of Iran and other independent developing nations. That is so clear.

I do not agree with those parts highlighted in quote. Yes, west has been waging wars for over 600 years now and taking over continents and committing genocide. That we know. But you comparison is flawed. Saddam was the their guy. He was the only regime in cold war who had the support of both eastern and western block. Why? In order to stifle Iran. A kind of a new "Great Game". Have you ever read about the Great Game? Things were being done to contain Iran, and to a certain they were successful but they could not defeat Iran. To compare Iran with Saddam is useless. You see, if they wanted to invade and destroy Iran they had their chance in last term of Bush. But they could not. Iran has become too powerful and too populous to be taken on directly. That is because Iran is truly independent. Saddam was not. He had even given up the missiles and WMD he had imported in 1980's to IAEA. Iran is making them. There lies the difference. Saddam could never aspire to make air defense systems and such. He was a puppet who got expired. Despite the western past power, as time passes they are getting weaker and the rising nations like Iran more powerful. Yes, west is trying to spend more and more on military despite going bankrupt but that can not save them. The only way they can take on Iran is to produce some local conditions so that the people of Iran start working for western interests and forget about their long term Iranian interests. That also seems unlikely.
I think there was a little misunderstanding here.I didn't compare Saddam's Iraq with Iran.There is a world of differences between them.
I was just talking about how the west always needs a bogeyman to start a war with it.Saddam was 'their' guy,had their support and fought Iran for them.Then he suddenly he became public enemy number 1 needed to be taken out and they did it.
Now that 'bogeyman' in U.S is Iran.Don't you see how they put fear in their people hearts that Iran is full of 'crazy people that if reached nuclear weapons,it would drop them everywhere it can'.
My point is that U.S has always survived with a war,i don't exactly know why,it has became their number one priority.
I think you are right,they are becoming weaker and weaker,because of 2 reasons: 1-Rise of new powers like China,Brazil,Russia (again) and others who can challenge their rude policies toward nations.It is the worst thing for them,but they have to deal with it somehow.2- Western countries,especially U.S are going a path that USSR was going,spending too much on military and fighting your enemy,ignoring your people more and more everyday.Look how today a majority of Americans are sick of U.S obsession with wars,blaming their economical situation on it.
You were right about one thing else,Iran is now too powerful for them to start a war with.Not that Iran's military is too powerful for them,of course it isn't,i'm talking about 'soft power'.A war with Iran can drop ME in a huge turmoil and may lead to a larger war with stronger countries involved.It is going to ruin their interests in the most important and volatile region in the world: Middle East.They know this food is too big for their mouth and right now,they are blaming themselves that: 'Why didn't we take out Iran earlier while we still could'?
 
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