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A Muslim nation has overthrown its corrupt, incompetent and arrogant government. Most Pakistanis would love to be that nation, hoping that Tunisia’s revolutionary ripples, already rocking Egypt and nudging Yemen, will reach Pakistan too. Enduring raging inflation, malignant corruption, dilapidated public services, an ultra-incompetent, dishonest government and an extra-insincere opposition, ineffectual judicial remedies, brutal feudal lords and tribal chiefs, lynch mobs, daily drone and terrorist attacks, assemblies of cheats, tax evaders and fake degree holders, surely Pakistan is ripe for revolution?

Sadly not — the ingredients for revolution are simply not in place. The 1979 Iranian revolution was led by Ayatollah Khomeini who had an iconic status amongst Iranians across that country. The Shah, on the other hand, was a ruthless dictator installed by the US, with no public mandate, who ruled for decades through repression. The revolution had strong roots amongst the leading intellectuals, was galvanised by the middle class and supported by Marxists, nationalists and Islamists alike. The largely ethnic homogeneity of Iran helped forge this unity of purpose.

Tunisia, in 2011, had many similar factors at play. President Ben Ali was a notoriously corrupt, textbook dictator ensconced for 23 years. He enacted strict control and censorship across the media, allowing only sham elections in which he invariably bagged up to 90 per cent of the votes. Opposition parties were stifled and people were fearful of voicing criticism of the government. Deprived of these outlets for expression, resentment ignited when the self-immolation of a young, unemployed university graduate, whose fruit stall was confiscated because he had no licence, set ablaze the frustrations of the middle class. Trade unions joined in the massive street protests. Tunisia’s revolution was, like Iran, shored by its high literacy rate and the absence of ethnic and sectarian divisions.

Despite a wave of public protests, Egypt is unlikely to emulate Tunisia, due to factors also present in Pakistan. Egypt has a sharp religious divide between Coptics and Muslims as well as numerous Islamic groups pitted against each other. Arab analysts cite low levels of literacy and a general feeling of apathy and defeatism in the population as further reasons that Egypt will continue to fester rather than revolt. Pakistan has these and additional factors which militate against a revolution: deep and multiple ethnic, linguistic, tribal and sectarian fault lines; a paucity of alternative intellectual narratives, radical leaders or strong unions; and an elected government and freedom of speech. Ironically, democratic elections and free speech help perpetuate the corrupt, unjust stranglehold of the feudal-industrial power elite. Revolutionary forces require a moral impetus that illegitimate dictatorship provides but elected government does not. Secondly, frustration needs to simmer under a repressive regime until it reaches the temperature for mass revolt. Pakistan’s free media allows an outlet for public dissatisfaction. The often harsh treatment of politicians and police officials at the hands of journalists and judges ameliorates public anger. Vocal opposition parties, unhindered street protests and strikes allow a regular release of fury, draining the momentum necessary for the emotional surge that revolutionary zeal requires. Pakistan’s ‘peasants’ have neither the radical leadership nor the intellectual support to rise up against the vicious feudalism that subdues them but has not yet starved them. The middle class is distraught by unemployment, inflation and lack of equal opportunity but does not have critical mass, unlike in Iran and Tunisia. Political parties have dissipated ‘people power’ along provincial, tribal, linguistic and sectarian lines. Revolutions require a unifying rationale and the only ideology which has the potential to transcend these divisions is Islam. Yet that, too, requires a leadership which commands respect and a mass following. Given the number of religious parties and their intolerance of each other’s beliefs, that unifying leadership is missing. Dire prognostications about imminent revolution are misguided. In fact, a revolution of any kind would be better than the alternative. This society is losing respect for law and order itself. At least revolution replaces one order with a different order of competing ideology. But anarchy replaces order with disorder and there lies the real danger — that this country, desperate for change but unable to muster genuine revolution, will twist instead towards lawless turmoil.'

Ripe for revolution? – The Express Tribune
 
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This economic meltdown will flush many govts. But unfortunately our corrupt leaders has increase the speed of corruption, its seems they are getting some kind of revolutionary signals. Its pointless to blame outside when our own politicians are extremely corrupt. Living example, how many time minister of Finance of Pak govt resign. Everyone has same complaint, royal expenses of PPP govt or politicians of this country.
 
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I do hope revolution comes to Pakistan fast, I am sick and tired of endless corrupted system which unfortunately prevails in every sphere of Pakistani society.
 
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I would like to request this grocery item called 'revolution' to 'come' to my place as well. Where do I sign up?


Yes, the corruption should prevail until the the country gets bankrupt and if someone says revolution; the idea of grocery revolution, bloody revolution, we don't need any revolution etc kicks in.

One has to think, why are people talking about revolution?

When all the segments of the society fail to deliver, be it military or political, when injustice becomes your fate and when you do not have basic necessities, the idea of revolution kicks in.

You tell us, should we dance on the street and not talk about revolution?

Revolution is bloody but the people in power could work and stop that blood.
 
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Control price hike or face Tunisia-like situation


ISLAMABAD: The opposition in the National Assembly (NA) on Thursday warned the government to control the rising prices of items of daily use or get ready to face a “Tunisia” like revolution that will sweep everything with it.

As the debate on skyrocketing prices of essential items of daily use commenced, interestingly no member of the economic team of the government was present in the house.

PML-N legislator Rana Tanveer-ul-Hasan, who kicked off the debate, demanded rightsizing of the National Assembly itself, arguing that after the number of MNAs was increased to 342, expenditure had increased tremendously. However, he did not elaborate what kind of right sizing in the NA was needed.

He warned that if efforts to control the prices were not made or were made half-heartedly, the situation could go out of control. He demanded abolition of monopolies and letting atmosphere of fair competition prevail. “This could be an effective step to control the prices,” he said.

Rana Tanveer suggested that the government should take visible checks to reduce the prices and stop printing currency notes to meet the government expenses. Raja Asad Khan of the PML-N came down hard on the Benazir Income Support Programme (BISP), saying that instead of spending Rs70 billion on such a project to get cheap publicity, the government should construct a dam in the name of Benazir Bhutto to provide cheap electricity to the people.

He was of the view that economic policies of the government should be for the benefit of the masses. No loans should be taken from foreign donors. He warned that if the prices were not controlled, the situation could take the shape of a revolution in which case, the rulers will not be able to escape the fury of the people.

Fauzia Wahab did not see any gloomy picture of the economy, saying that the economic indicators prove that the economy is moving in the right direction. She said that agriculture sector showed a growth of Rs300 billion during a year while textile exports fetched $1.5 billion on monthly basis and $10 billion were received through remittances.

She held terrorism responsible for all the economic ills of Pakistan and said that till terrorism was brought under control, stability in economy would remain a far cry. She said terrorists were getting bails from the judiciary and the conviction rate in Pakistan was 20 percent, which is very low as compared with other parts of the world where conviction rate is 80 percent.

However, Raza Hayat Hiraj of PML-Q did not agree with Fauzia Wahab’s thinking and asked if the economic situation was not that bad, then why the government was approaching the opposition for joint efforts for the stabilization of economy. “If the economic picture is rosy, then why did the government take a loan of $13 billion from the IMF?” he questioned.

He suggested that all the party heads should sit down to find out the causes of the price hike to formulate a joint economic strategy. Chief Whip of PML-N Sheikh Aftab stressed the need for good governance and questioned as to why reputed professionals were not being inducted to run huge public sector enterprises to make them profitable.

Obviously referring to the 10-point agenda of the PML-N, Sheikh Aftab said that it was for the first time that instead of embarrassing the government by leg pulling, the opposition was facilitating it to improve its governance.


Control price hike or face Tunisia-like situation
 
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I hope not. Revolution means blood, death and instability. Fighting an active war on one long border, and three hostile neighbours, all of whom have some claim to Pakistan's land, revolution is not at all what Pakistan needs.
 
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Crass put it so rightly back in the 80's.


You talk about your revolution, well, that's fine
But what are you going to be doing come the time?
Are you going to be the big man with the tommy-gun?
Will you talk of freedom when the blood begins to run?
Well, freedom has no value if violence is the price
Don't want your revolution, I want anarchy and peace

Crass - Bloody Revolutions
 
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well pakistanis are lazy! simply lazy! we have no direction no aims!

a revolution in pakistan? what do we wish to achieve replace zardari with altaf or nawaz? is this our revolution??

revolution comes in places where the general public is not corrupt and is ambitious while the leaders are corrupt!

in pakistan NAIK WOH HAI JISAAY MUKAA NAHI MILA!


pakistanis have become so used to corruption and inept governments that they think its normal to live in such a state!

sorry my friends but revolution in pakistan won't come atleast in another decade(i am being optimistic here)!
 
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Any revolution in India and Pakistan would only bring extremists to the power. In case of Pakistan it's more dangerous considering the majority support to Qadri.
 
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The argument being presented here is funny. Pakistan is a democracy(as of now) in as much as its people elect their leaders & can replace them with a new bunch every few years. What is the connection with Tunisia or Egypt? Corruption is not something a revolution can do anything about. It has to be sorted out by the people themselves. If enough importance was given to a candidate's character while electing him & not ethnic factors alone, you would(we too) be better represented. The guys asking for a revolution in Pakistan are usually the ones who won't vote, don't like their leaders & want someone else(not them) to be a Ataturk or a Jinnah or Iqbal and remove politicians who have been elected but offend these people's highly developed sensibilities. Effectively the opposite of the revolution now sweeping the Arab world where people are protesting & sometimes dying to be able to choose their leaders.
 
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Any revolution in India and Pakistan would only bring extremists to the power. In case of Pakistan it's more dangerous considering the majority support to Qadri.

Majority support Qadri? Do you have any stats to back this up? It's interesting you people call Pakistanis extremists but never in our history have we elected a religious government. Secular parties have always been elected.
 
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Any revolution in India and Pakistan would only bring extremists to the power. In case of Pakistan it's more dangerous considering the majority support to Qadri.

MAJORITY????? and how did you come up with that statement!
 
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