RIP Nice, France terror attack victims...73 Dead many injured.

[flamer84]

I don't have time but I will respond later to some other posters who tagged me. But I do know the most horrendous, barbaric, repulsive, bestial savagery of recent times was shown by your Catholic brethren in Rwanda where your co-religionists (my understanding is Hungary and Rwanda are Catholic majority countries) killed over 1 million people with machetes. Do you carry any vicarious responsibility? Now that does not make you look good, does it?

And before your open your mouth about them being Niggers, Africans or whatever well how dare you label an entire kaleidoscope of peoples (the Muslim) into one monolith homogeneity. If you can dehumanize a mass of disjointed peoples of varied backgrounds and reduce them into one group to be held accountable for, maligned for the actions of some twisted fcuks why can't I also create my own bogeyman and bogeygroup?

Link > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide

You see what you guy's overlook rather conveniently is man can exist at many levels and his actions might be informed by whole spectrum of impulses. You guy's reduce it to one aspect only. Just to clarify I am about as far as a Muslim can be and in danger of being declared a "Kaffir" by some. However what I resent is simplistic blame games all too often driven by prejudice or other external variables - maybe even historical grievances in your case from the Ottoman period.

You see...this is where it all comes to.Judged by cannon you're not a Muslim,judged entirely by cannon,I'm not a Christian either.I'm pretty sure that you,just like me,try to embrace your religious life with your social one.Maybe going to mosque or to church isn't enough but our God will judge us in the end.This is my belief.I fully know that many muslims,in fact most,are not like this but what we see in France is islamic extremism.Can you accuse me if the the current puzzle popps put in my head.?..no muslims in Europe....no children overrun by trucks....it's simple really...We get to the age when we make simple choices.And I'm one of those who know the nuances.

 

[Clutch]

You see...this is where it all comes to.Judged by cannon you're not a Muslim,judged entirely by cannon,I'm not a Christian either.I'm pretty sure that you,just like me,try to embrace your religious life with your social one.Maybe going to mosque or to church isn't enough but our God will judge us in the end.This is my belief.I fully know that many muslims,in fact most,are not like this but what we see in France is islamic extremism.Can you accuse me if the the current puzzle popps put in my head.?..no muslims in Europe....no children overrun by trucks....it's simple really...We get to the age when we make simple choices.And I'm one of those who know the nuances.

Islamic extremism is a problem that needs to be solved by the muslims themselves. We need to collectively take the battle to the extremists where ever they live. Muslims should face ISIS and all their supporters with full force. Unfortunately, Muslims themselves are primarily in a civil was which boils down to Shia vs. Sunni. We need to fix our issues fast! It will need an iron fist and a loving hand at the same time.

 

[SouI]

Previous prophets have used VIOLENCE first resort unlike prophet Muhammad. Like prophet Moses told to the Jews to fight for the land the the holy land that was already inhabited. And when Prophet David fought people and slaughtered them for the holy land as an invader.

So you are saying all those islamic prophets were violent and barbaric?

Islamic extremism is a problem that needs to be solved by the muslims themselves. We need to collectively take the battle to the extremists where ever they live. Muslims should face ISIS and all their supporters with full force. Unfortunately, Muslims themselves are primarily in a civil was which boils down to Shia vs. Sunni. We need to fix our issues fast! It will need an iron fist and a loving hand at the same time.

Do you support Sharia laws? Yes or No.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

So you are saying all those islamic prophets were violent and barbaric?

No. If God wills it then it must happen. These weren't only Islamic prophets these are Christian and Jewish ones too. There's only a small portion that used violence. The modern world is too arrogant to understand these things. It thinks it is too advanced and too enlighten. Complete arrogance.

 

[flamer84]

Islamic extremism is a problem that needs to be solved by the muslims themselves. We need to collectively take the battle to the extremists where ever they live. Muslims should face ISIS and all their supporters with full force. Unfortunately, Muslims themselves are primarily in a civil was which boils down to Shia vs. Sunni. We need to fix our issues fast! It will need an iron fist and a loving hand at the same time.

What about muslims citizens of the West slamming trucks into children? Imagine a christian in Pakistan doing this on a muslim holliday ! There would be riots and churches burning.Understand Europeans to dude....Civility has an end.

 

[waz]

This thread is now full of part history, part religious debate and full of mindless rants. Why can't people discuss the topic at hand?
I'll delete anything else from now on that is not directly linked to the events in Nice.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

giving Muslims very little of their share

The Muslims of Pak did rather well. Why not see the situation prevailing British Raj ante. The Sikhs were running rampent.

Sepoy mutiny

You should know that had fcuk all to do with present day Pakistan. The mutiny was a Hindustani show and centred on Ganges Plains. In Punjab, Frontier a few leaves fell of the branches. Big deal.

colonial legacy?

Only the retarded and cretins see the world in binary formula. Life, history is never that simple. There were good things brought by Britain and some bad. We should openly accept what was good. In my opinion it was more good than bad. It requires intellectual maturity to overlook reactive thinking. Colonialism is complex subject and not quite black or white. I certainly am glad it was British and not Belgian's who colonized what is Pakistan in 1849. European colonialsm varied. For a start it was not like all of Europe was involved. It was only the advanced countries of Western Europe and their effects are differant in differant regions. Thus we need to take a nuanced approach.

"British General of Pakistan Army - General Gracy"

Well it was not the General's fault. It was the faggoty Pak leaders who had udders for balls. Had they been men of substance they would have sent Pak Army first. The problem was Indians went in first which meant the General could not engage with another army which also had British officers in it's ranks. However had the faggoty Pak leaders sent in Pak Army instead of tribal militia things would have been differant.

Read how Indian's "integrated Hyderabad". That is the way to do things.

Link > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_integration_of_Hyderabad

Okay guy's. Got to go. I have huge amount of work piled up.

 

[flamer84]

This thread is now full of part history, part religious debate and full of mindless rants. Why can't people discuss the topic at hand?
I'll delete anything else from now on that is not directly linked to the events in Nice.

Because it goes down to history dude.The apologists go there,you can't separate these things.

Personally,I just can't understand...we all did bad things.....but we're here now,living next to each other....why slamm my children ? You're a citizen just like me.

 

[av avinash]

This was bound to happen. There is lot of hate between the conservative islamic culture and France.
I think now france will put in more draconian laws for racial profiling and immigration control.

 

[Adir-M]

RIP
disgusting and coward attack.

France need to understand the mentality of the pepoles that attacking them

 

[Zabaniyah]

Question: Why France?

This is the third deadly attack within 18 months, and that is alarming. Last time I checked, France opposed the invasion of Iraq back in 03.

Why even do this at all in the first place?

 

[waz]

Right, I'll open the thread. For those who wilfully, or by accident, did not read my post.

Stay on-topic. If you choose to ignore this then you leave me little choice. If you want a theological debate, there are plenty of websites for it, this isn't one of those.

Thank you.

Respect the poor folk who died if anything.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.exp...actising-Muslim-family-say/amp?client=safari#

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ent-mosque.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

The True nature of this murderer. Funny how lots of these attackers tend to be confused people with psychological issues.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Question: Why France?

This is the third deadly attack within 18 months, and that is alarming. Last time I checked, France opposed the invasion of Iraq back in 03.

Why even do this at all in the first place?

They're attacking anything that's not them. Doesnt matter if it's Kenya or whatever. They're answering the call. Simple as that. Muslims countries should know full well why they do this, because some Muslim countries are facing this on a regular bases.

 

[Zabaniyah]

They're attacking anything that's not them. Doesnt matter if it's Kenya or whatever. They're answering the call. Simple as that. Muslims countries should know full well why they do this, because some Muslim countries are facing this on a regular bases.

Sounds troubling! So what is their solution to this crisis?