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holding second place is nice. But if they don't so what? With all the problems UK is having let them have some bragging rights. In a month no one is going to remember who won what , etc except the 100m race

China team need to retool and adopt newer training methods if that is the case for underachieving in Riio.

Olympics medal tally is one of the races between nations to measure a nation's standing in the world.

Just like supercomputer list, PISA tests, space achievements (man in space, space station, Moon, Mars), military weapons (nuclear weapons, aircraft carriers, ICBMs, SSBN).
 
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15 golds each for China and Britain so far. Andy Murray won gold for Britain.

China need to have a good day today.

Time to start performing as people expect especially in non-judging events. No excuses anymore. Need to hold 2nd place in the medal table.

Relax, second place should be secure.

After Rio a long hard introspective look in needed. Government sports programs should be loosened and more athletes participate out of their own pockets and sponsorship.

Chinese participation in the IOC needs to increase to stop the rules being changed constantly to the detriment of China.
 
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Relax, second place should be secure.

After Rio a long hard introspective look in needed. Government sports programs should be loosened and more athletes participate out of their own pockets and sponsorship.

Chinese participation in the IOC needs to increase to stop the rules being changed constantly to the detriment of China.

Also in 2022 Beijing, China need to be aggressive in making some rule change to favor them for the medals.
 
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Also in 2022 Beijing, China need to be aggressive in making some rule change to favor them for the medals.

Winter olympics is a joke. Big mistake in hosting that nonsense.

Its a rich mans sport, out of reach of most people who do not have the luxury of travelling to snow and ice covered mountaintops and artificial parks.

Rule change that need to be pushed for:
- racial composition of teams have to correspond racial composition of country as a percentage.
- increase number of medals in Chinese dominated sports.
- no arbitrary limit to athletes to any event like that bullshit in weight lifting and table tennis.
- Taiwan athletes can participate under PRC flag or not at all.
- Hong Kong pro democracy fcukers not allowed to attend.
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Winter olympics is a joke. Big mistake in hosting that nonsense.

Its a rich mans sport, out of reach of most people who do not have the luxury of travelling to snow and ice covered mountaintops and artificial parks.

Rule change that need to be pushed for:
- racial composition of teams have to correspond racial composition of country as a percentage.
- increase number of medals in Chinese dominated sports.
- no arbitrary limit to athletes to any event like that bullshit in weight lifting and table tennis.
- Taiwan athletes can participate under PRC flag or not at all.
- Hong Kong pro democracy fcukers not allowed to attend.
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Beijing fell for this shit. China isn't going to win much in 2020 as they are not a winter games country. Winter is too fucking cold and too white
 
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Beijing fell for this shit. China isn't going to win much in 2020 as they are not a winter games country. Winter is too fucking cold and too white

In 2020 an East Asia environment and geography might have the chinese team in better health and familiar climate. In rio the tropical environment is causing havoc.

Winter games is a fcuking disaster for China to host. The officials in charge should be disciplined and beaten with raw potatoes. What were they thinking?
 
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He Zi received blessings from fellow Olympic Divers @1:47

Very sweet moments and best wishes to the new couple!
 
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Winter olympics is a joke. Big mistake in hosting that nonsense.

Its a rich mans sport, out of reach of most people who do not have the luxury of travelling to snow and ice covered mountaintops and artificial parks.

Rule change that need to be pushed for:
- racial composition of teams have to correspond racial composition of country as a percentage.
- increase number of medals in Chinese dominated sports.
- no arbitrary limit to athletes to any event like that bullshit in weight lifting and table tennis.
- Taiwan athletes can participate under PRC flag or not at all.
- Hong Kong pro democracy fcukers not allowed to attend.
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You do know it's IOC who set the rules, not the host country..........

You cannot do that and if you do, the IOC will simply flip you the bird
 
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Relax, second place should be secure.

After Rio a long hard introspective look in needed. Government sports programs should be loosened and more athletes participate out of their own pockets and sponsorship.

Chinese participation in the IOC needs to increase to stop the rules being changed constantly to the detriment of China.

True.

Have you noticed that so many Chinese athletes seem to be getting 'disqualified' in this Olympics?

Swimming relay teams had like 2 or 3 DQs.
Xu Lijia in sailing had 3 DQ races.
Weightlifters had multiple DQs.
Etc
 
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In 2020 an East Asia environment and geography might have the chinese team in better health and familiar climate. In rio the tropical environment is causing havoc.

Winter games is a fcuking disaster for China to host. The officials in charge should be disciplined and beaten with raw potatoes. What were they thinking?

I agree. China is not a cold country by and large. Winter Olympics will be a huge waste of resources.
 
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In 2020 an East Asia environment and geography might have the chinese team in better health and familiar climate. In rio the tropical environment is causing havoc.

Winter games is a fcuking disaster for China to host. The officials in charge should be disciplined and beaten with raw potatoes. What were they thinking?

Something in Rio is affecting performance. I'm not talk about the events with biased judges but non-judging events like swimming.

Maybe the chaos in the athletes village (robberies, etc) have them less focused than they normally would. Maybe climate too.

Whatever happens, there need to be a review into this performance to get better.

Got to top the gold medal table in 2020 and let the Japanese remember the Chinese national anthem in their sleep.
 
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Weightlifters had multiple DQs.

I have no idea about other sports. But I watched all weightlifting matches.

There were 2 chinese weightlifters who were unable to lift weights, and they have no one but themselves to fault.

One of the weightlifters bombed out, and it was clear. You have to be a blind folded fool to not see it. @AndrewJin
 
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For some Chinese members still doubt about the unfairful judgement.
We respect the efforts of every athletes ( including Chinese, of course ) in the fair game.

Gymnasts who have successfully completed the Produnova
Gymnasts who have attempted the Produnova
  • Choe Jong Sil (PRK): 1980 Olympics, landed on her back
  • Yekaterina Tsvetkova (RUS): 2012 Voronin Cup, landed on her back



All the materials above related to the Indian gymnast are either outdated or omission of key points, TROLLS:

Oct 31, 2015

"Karmakar had the highest difficulty (7.000) of the finalists for her risky Produnova vault -- a front handspring into double front somersault -- but failed to pull it off cleanly as her bottom touched the mat before she bounced back on to her feet."
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-gymnastics-world-women-vault-idUSKCN0SP0T020151031

April 19, 2016

" The 22-year-old raised eyebrows by attempting a vault with the highest difficulty (7.000) among all the finalists in Glasgow.
However, her attempt at the Produnova vault -- a front handspring into double front somersault -- failed to come off cleanly
as her bottom touched the mat before she bounced back onto her feet.
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pm-m...dipa-karmakar-who-is-set-for-olympics-1397067"

August 08, 2016

"Karmakar had one of the highest difficulty (7.000) among the women for her risky Produnova vault – a front handspring into double front somersault – but failed to pull it off cleanly as her bottom touched the mat before she bounced back on to her feet."
https://thehimalayantimes.com/sports/trailblazer-dipa-karmakar-first-indian-grab-final-spot/

AUG 8, 2016

"Karmakar had one of the highest difficulty (7.000) among the women for her risky Produnova vault - a front handspring into double front somersault - but failed to pull it off cleanly as her bottom touched the mat before she bounced back on to her feet. "
"It wasn't very good. I was hoping for a better score from the first vault and because it was low, I was really disappointed. My landing had been better in training.
My hip touched the mat today which wasn't in the plans."
http://www.businessinsider.in/Rio-2...inal-at-Rio-Olympics/articleshow/53593578.cms

15th August, 2016

"In her 'Produnova', Dipa did everything right except that she did not have a perfect landing as her buttocks just touched the ground and thereby she lost points."
http://www.newindianexpress.com/spo...onze-by-whisker/2016/08/15/article3579868.ece

August 15th, 2016

"The judges gave the Indian credit for the vault which she landed on her bottom."
http://sports.inquirer.net/219527/o...of-death-fails-to-upstage-biles#ixzz4HPgkbSKF

Butt Landing

15. If a gymnast lands a vault on her butt first — as opposed to on her feet and then falling on her butt — she will get a zero.
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a62602/olympic-gymnastics-scores-facts/
 
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Something in Rio is affecting performance. I'm not talk about the events with biased judges but non-judging events.

Maybe the chaos in the athletes village (robberies, etc) have them less focused than they normally would. Maybe climate too.

Whatever happens, there need to be a review into this performance to get better.

Of all events, swimming has been the biggest disappointment.

Got to top the gold medal table in 2020 and let the Japanese remember the Chinese national anthem in their sleep.
I anticipate....our anti-Japan-invasion national anthem in their stadium!!!
 
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I think you are the one that's joking....Seems to me, not only you don't know how Basketball is play in international level, but also, your "Statistic" is not really anything in the level of people keeping statistic, if you are very keen on statistic, you will not say this





Let's go over the statistic.


Of the last 3 games Team US played
  • 2 pt FG % is 17/48 (35.4% v AUS) 20/35 (57.1% v SER), 25/36 (69.4% v FRA)
  • 3 pt FG % is 17/39 (43.6% v AUS) 7/20 (35 % v SER), 10/27 (37% v FRA)
  • FT % is 13/18, (72% v Australia), 33/42 (78.6% v Serbia), 20/27 (74.1% v France)
  • TO is 9 (v Aus) 12 (v Ser) , 13 (v FRA)
  • Offensive Rebound 21 (v AUS) 9 (v SER), 8 (v FRA)
  • PFT/2nd Chance Point 0/23 (v AUS) 16/9 (v SER) 15/11 (v FRA)


On the other hand, the % against team USA

  • 2 pt FG% is 26/45 (57.8% by AUS), 21/35 (60% by SER), 36/54 (66.7% by FRA)
  • 3 pt FG% is 7/21 (33.3% by AUS), 10/25 (40% by SER), 5/19 (26.3% by FRA)
  • FT% is 15/18 (83.3% by AUS) ,19/25 (76% by SER), 10/13 (76.9% by FRA)
  • TO is 17 (by AUS), 16 (by SER), 13 (by FRA)
  • Offensive Rebound 8(by AUS) 8 (by SER) 11 (By FRA)
  • PFT/2nd Chance Point 9/4 (by AUS) 15/10 (by SER) 20/20 (by FRA)
Final Game Result

  • US 98 - 86 AUS
  • US 94 - 91 SER
  • US 100 - 97 FRA
Now, before you look at the stats, let's go over how Basketball is played.

You score by making a play, and you make a play by either from opponent turnover or dead ball. So to understand how a game being played, it's important to see how one stats go against your opponent stats.

To Score : basically you either

1.) Score unchecked, open (which mean either you have a good play or opponent bad D)
2.) Score being checked by your opponent (good play)


To Miss a Score, you either

1.) Unpressured Mistake (You missed for whatever reason)
2.) Pressure by your Opponent (Opponent good D, including your offensive foul)

To make a shot, you can only be in 1 of the 4 situations

1.) From Sideline (either after opponent made a score or out of bound)
2.) From Turnover (opponent offensive foul, steal or pressed mistake)
3.) From a good Defence (opponent failed to score succumbed to your team Ds)
4.) Second Chance play (Offensive Rebound)

A Good offensive game traditionally have the following stats

1.) High FG %
2.) High FG attempt
3.) High Offensive Rebound
4.) High FT attempted (coming from high offensive attempt)
5.) High Second Chance Point

A Good defensive game traditionally have the following stats

1.) Low Opponent FG%
2.) Low Opponent FG Attempt
3.) High Defensive Rebound
4.) Low Opponent Offensive Rebound
5.) High Opponent Turn Over

Now's looking at stats between USA vs Australian, USA vs Serbia and USA vs France.

US team have a high FT% on games vs France and Serbia, low 2 pts FT on Australia, suggest the US team have a good offensive over against both Serbia, and France. At the same time, the US team have made a similar shot attempt (55 vs 60 on Serbia, and 63 vs 73 on France) suggest the offensive end is similar outlook between US and Serbia and France. On the other hand, Serbia and France make about the same % and attempt than in the US, suggest that US team was not defensively strong. Offensive rebound saw US slightly edged ahead of Serbia (8 vs 7) while trailing France (8 vs 13) suggest US are on par with Serbia on defensive end, but worse than France in defence (being unable to block out France Offensive rebound) while the last stat suggest that US edge ahead with FT attempts, both time twice the number than Serbia and France, suggesting more offensive play (both in and out of motion) on the opposite court.

In an outlook

- High FG%
- High FT attempts
- Medium to High offensive rebound suggest US play Offensive ball game
- High Opponent Offensive rebound
- High Opponent FG %
- High Opponent Score

Suggest US failing in defence.

The only match I would say US failing in offense is against Australia.

When you look at the game, you will see US weren't chasing the opponent, most Australian, Serbia and France are uncheck, while the game focus on more running style play with the US team, they are playing on what we called "Trading Basket" This would only works when they missed a lot (either your good D making them miss or their lacking of offensive power) However, facing Australia, Serbia and France all 3 with high shooting percentage, you won't get much out of trading basket.

And finally, again, I did not say the Team USA cannot do defend, they can, they just did not play defensive ball game in all 5 matches, all 5 matches are what we called "Run and Gun" style match, you will see if you bother to watch the game itself.

And no, just because curry was not a MVP nor he did not have the ring on his hand in 2014, that does not mean he is not a star player, You cannot become elite overnight, you have to have substance before you become elite, saying curry wasn't elite in 2014 does not mean he is not one of the best person in NBA, you like stats, right? Go back and check Curry stats, in 2014/2015 season.
Eh, you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Let me teach you. In the USA team basketball, Coach K employed a system which is called Motion Offense. In the motion offense, it will generated a lot of 3pts attempt through drive and kick, therefore the percentage that matter in the win/loss for team USA offense is the 3pts fg%, NOT the 2pt fg%. When Team USA scored less than 100pts in an international competition, there is some serious problem in the offense. It doesn't required a genius to understand that simple team stat, no need to pull off any irrelevant stat.

For the check...

- High FG% - High FG% is an indication of their finishing ability at the rim, which has little to do with how the offense is being played considered their offense is about shooting the 3 ball.

- High FT attempts - high FT attempt is an indication of opposing team not playing proper D, rather than the players running good offense.

- Medium to High offensive rebound suggest US play Offensive ball game - Offensive rebound has nothing to do with good offense. It just mean they are active on the board and hustle which is expect as Team USA have a lot of athletic quick players.

- High Opponent Offensive rebound - That is an indication of opposing team size advantage as the US often like to play small ball as is in the NBA modern style.

- High Opponent FG % - That is an indication that they are not putting in the effort. They have the personnel and one of the best defensive assistant and an NBA defensive guru, Tom Thibodeau. So no, defense is not their issue. It's the effort and a trust factor in rotating and they just need to play a proper lineup that can limit defensive liability in Kyrie, Carmelo, Derozan.. That is up to the coach.

- High Opponent Score - Are you joking? That is not high. Like I told you, Australia/Serbia/France were scoring around the same mark they played against past USA Team. It is the Team USA offense which fail to score more than 100pts until France match. Even that, 103pts is consider a bad offensive night for Team USA who should be averaging at least 120ppg.

Like I said, once they played more team ball, a motion offense, and not trying to isolation too many possessions, they will score over 100pts, then they will play better defense and the other opposing team offensive stat will not matter because there is a lopsided in talents despite Team USA is a B Team. In basketball, there is never a "good defense will lead to good offense". It is always "good offense will lead to good defense". Please learn that.

As far as Stephen Curry, he was on team USA in the Summer of 2014 which mean he was elected on Team USA for the season he played 2013-2014. Let look at those stat.

24.1 PER, .61TS%, .225WS48, 7.4 Boxscore plus/minus, 6.7 VORP in the regular season. These are very good number. Though, not elite. Elite would be (28PER, .61TS%, .269, etcc) based on averaged of league leader since 1960s.

In the postseason, he dropped to down...

18.8 PER, .60TS%, .131 WS48, 3.7 Boxscore plus/minus, 0.4 VORP.

Which is pathetic for a star player. Sure it is above average stat consider averaged player PER (Player Efficiency Rating) is about 15.0. So no, he wasn't an elite in 2014 season. He BECAME an elite player in 2015 AFTER he played on Team USA, and then went on to have a historic 2016 which based on my peak project, he ranked #9 of All-Time, a lists that include Jordan, Kareem, Lebron, Shaq, Wilt, Duncan, Bird, Magic, Hakeem..

So please learn basketball first before you talk to me. LOL
 
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