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Retired Indian Spy Details RAW's Accomplishments in Pakistan

Even a very strongly pro-Indian American analyst Christine Faire recently described Modi as a KKK wizard.

Fair spoke at the World Affairs Council in San Francisco on "Pakistan, the Taliban and Regional Security" March 4, 2015. Here are some interesting excerpts from her generally anti-Pakistan narrative at the event:

1. India's Hindu Nationalists (RSS, BJP) are like the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), the violent post-civil war white supremacist organization made up mainly of former southern confederate supporters, in the United States. The difference is that while KKK has very little popular support in America, the RSS's political wing BJP recently won general elections by a landslide, making Narendra Modi ("KKK wizard") the prime minister of India.

2. India's human rights record in Kashmir is appalling.

3. It's "flat out wrong" to say that "Indian Muslims do not participate in terrorism".

4. Pakistan can use Indian Mujahideen (IM) which includes India's deeply alienated Muslims to conduct covert actions in India with plausible deniability.

Haq's Musings: Dr. Christine Fair Compares India's BJP With America's KKK
 
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Both India and pakistan are in the same game. It is unthinkable that RAW is not in pakistan.
 
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India and Pakistan are enemies

So ISI and RAW will keep doing these things

It takes two hands to clap

India did not start this fight

The covert war started with 1971. So don't blame Pakistan for paying back in same currency
 
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The adviser to the prime minister on national security and foreign affairs, Sartaj Aziz, expressed serious concern over the statement made by Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar that India will use terrorism to counter terrorism from other countries.

This statement, Aziz said, only confirms Islamabad’s apprehensions about India’s involvement in terrorism in Pakistan.

“It must be the first time that a minister of an elected government openly advocates use of terrorism in another country on the pretext of preventing terrorism from that country or its non-state actors,” said the national security adviser.

Pakistan sincerely pursues a policy of good neighbourly relations with India, maintained Aziz.

“Terrorism is our common enemy and it is vital for the two countries to work together to defeat this menace, from which Pakistan has suffered much more than almost any other country,” he asserted.

"The statement of Indian defence minister is open and blatant admission and declaration of sponsoring terrorism," Defence Minister Khawaja Asif said in an official statement issued late on Saturday.

Asif said Indian defence minister specifically mentioned that regulation will not be used to quell terrorist activities and terrorism will be promoted instead.

"This is the worst kind of declaration by a state functionary of cabinet level which confirms that India is sponsoring terrorism against its neighbours in the name of preventing terrorist activities," Asif said.

Earlier, Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar, in a shocking and radical statement, has asserted that terrorists have to be neutralised only through terrorists.

“India will take proactive steps to prevent a 26/11 type attack,” Press Trust of India quoted him saying.

Commenting on the shocking utterances of the Indian Defence Minister, a defence analyst said the statement was appalling and beyond comprehension.

Speaking at an event in New Delhi, the minister used the Hindi phrase “kante se kanta nikalna” (removing a thorn with a thorn) and wondered why Indian soldiers should be used to neutralise terrorists. The proactive steps, he said, could include pressure tactics.

“We have to neutralise terrorists through terrorists only. Why can't we do it? We should do it. Why does my soldier have to do it?” he said and added that the issue could not be discussed beyond this.

“There are certain things that I obviously cannot discuss here. But if there is any country, planning something against my country, we will definitely take some pro-active steps,” he said.

The defence analyst lamented that the menace of terrorism could not be defeated by promoting state-sponsored terrorism.

India, he added, was carving out a disastrous strategy as it would never help in rooting out terrorism, which was a global issue threatening all states.

The international community should take notice of this irresponsible statement, which was reflecting a sick mindset, he stressed.

Pakistan decries India's admission of involvement in cross-border terrorism - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
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MOVEMENT OF RAW IN NEPAL , A BOOK BY DR SHASTRA DUTTA PANT
August 3, 2008, 10:01 am
Filed under: India, Nepal
Movement of RAW in Nepal , a book by Dr Shastra Dutta Pant
At the time when local newspapers, political leaders, intellectuals, among others, are talking about the active presence of Indians while destabilizing our politics as well as the economy, thus making defunct one after another institutions, Pant has brought out the publication “Nepalma RAW Ko Chalkhel (Movement of RAW in Nepal).

There are many questions yet to be answered. Just look at the current issues: Why the Royal Palace massacre took place immediately after the late King’s China visit? Why the parliament passed the finance bill in a disguised manner? Was King Birendra’s decision to consult the Supreme Court before giving Royal assent on a controversial bill the reason for the Royal Palace bloodbath? Why Indian political leaders put pressure on the marriage of the then Crown Prince Dipendra? How could the Maoists get safe shelter in
Indian territory? How did they get arms from India? Why the five political parties are launching a “joint-movement” at the time when the Maoists have announced cease fire? Why the political parties are trying to limit the Royal Palace role as well as the Army affairs? Why KV Rajans are here at the time of change of the government? After all, who are running such games from behind the scene?

One may get some answers to the above questions while reading the book “Movement of RAW in Nepal”.It is strongly assumed that the Indian intelligence unit is actively involved in manipulating newspapers, intellectuals, political leaders making them supporters of India. The fact is that leaders of major political
parties do not speak about the Kalapani issue, the India constructed embankments inundating Nepalese fertile soil, border encroachment by the Indians, among others.

It is very much interesting to note that Nepal has no problem with our neighbouring country China whereas we are facing countless problems with India, either it is in the operation of the dry-port in Birgunj or export of ghee, beer etc..While giving the background, the publication explains about RAW activities
while creating Bangladesh from Pakistan, RAW activities in Bhutan, Maldives, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Sikkim annexation.

The main objective of the RAW is to create internal trouble in neighbouring countries and take benefit from the trouble that the neighbouring countries face. That apart, their present interest towards Nepal is to fail the Nepalese economy and create monopoly in the Nepalese market. India is showing double-standards towards Nepal. On the one hand the Indian government is supporting our government with arms on the other the RAW is supporting the Maoists.

RAW, a powerful Indian intelligence – Research Analysis Wing – ultimately aims to defunct Nepal.The publication has cited on Nepal-India government level relations,relations of political parties and people of the two countries, and Nepal’s relations with RAW.The publication has also referred to the RAW intention and expectations in Nepal.

Movement of RAW in Nepal , a book by Dr Shastra Dutta Pant | Isha khan's Weblog

From StratRisks:

The main objective of the RAW is to create internal trouble in neighbouring countries and take benefit from the trouble that the neighbouring countries face(Machination of RAW in South Asia and Movement of RAW in Nepal/ by Dr Shastra Dutta Pant).

The analysis of Indian foreign policy trends shows that the Indian governments had adopted an aggressive attitude and covert means for attaining its two permanent foreign policy goals: (a) to attain a hegemonic position in South Asia; (b) to play a role in international system based on Kautilyan principles. Indian governments have used intelligence agencies, not only for monitoring the activities of neighbouring States, but also as a covert forward base to achieve its goals and to implement its hegemonic policies in the region. Over the years RAW become an important instrument for promoting the hegemonic influence of India in the Asian region and has also played a significant role in enhancing India’s image as an important international actor. RAW has now acquired the important role of being the covert instrument of Indian national power and will remain decisive actor in furthering Indian interests and future Indian hegemonic ambitions in the region.

Ever since the partition of the sub-continent India has been openly meddling in Nepal’s internal affairs by contriving internal strife and conflicts through RAW to destabilise the successive legitimate governments and prop up puppet regimes which would be more amenable Indian machinations. Armed insurrections were sponsored and abetted by RAW and later requests for military assistance to control these were managed through pro-India leaders. India has been aiding and inciting the Nepalese dissidents to collaborate with the Nepali Congress. RAW: An Instrument Of

Indian Imperialism by Isha Khan, (RAW: An Instrument Of Indian Imperialism By Isha Khan).

India has been openly meddling in Nepal’s internal affairs by contriving internal strife and conflicts through RAW to destabilize the successive legitimate governments & prop up puppet regimes which would be more amenable Indian mechanization. Armed insurrections were sponsored and abetted by RAW and later requests for military assistance to control these were managed through pro-India leaders. India has been aiding & inciting the Nepalese to collaborate with the Nepali Congress. For this they were supplied arms whenever the king or the Nepalese Government appeared to be drifting away from the Indian dictates & impinging on Indian hegemonic designs in the region. In fact under the garb of democratization process, the Maoists were actively encouraged by the RAW to collect arms to resort to open rebellion against the legitimate Nepalese governments( RAW The Rascal by Prem RajLankaWeb News).

Indian sources, including journalists, have put on record how much before 1971 RAW had established the network of a separatist movement through ‘cells’ and military training camps in Indian territory adjoining Bangladesh. The Mukti Bahini were all in place organisationally to take advantage of the political trouble in 1971 and carry out acts of sabotage against communication lines so that Indian forces simply marched in at the ‘right’ time. RAW agents provided valuable information as well as acting as an advance guard for conducting unconventional guerrilla acts against the Pakistani defence forces.

A Mukti Bahini activist, Zainal Abedin, has written a revealing book which includes his personal experience in Indian training camps, entitled RAW and Bangladesh. It was the post-fall of Dhaka period which exposed the Indians’ true intentions and made Abedin realise that It was evident from the conduct of the Indian Army that they treated Bangladesh as a colony …

Indian RAW intelligence operations in South Asian countries | StratRisks
 
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I think
at present what India is looking for is finding a stooge in Pakistan
we want someone like Sheikh Hasina or Sirsena to become premier of Pakistan
Noora has most of those qualities except he currently lacks the control over PA.
But India would still prefer Noora to be PM, for at least 10 years

The day , a Pakistani PM gets full control over the PA, would be the day Raw would say Mission accomplished.
 
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The dude who wrote this book was thrown out of RAW and he is full of BS. I know this coz i have read his book and i also know some people.
HE did this to make money out of his book, don't take it at face value.

If he was thrown out...
Then I probably see some truth there. lol
 
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If he was thrown out...
Then I probably see some truth there. lol

Go read the book. The guy is high praise of himself "I did this, I did that , I was the only person blah blah blah"
 
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#India arrests pigeon accused of spying for #Pakistan #ISI #RAW India arrests pigeon accused of spying for Pakistan | The Verge … via The Verge

Police in India this week arrested a pigeon on charges of spying for Pakistan. As BBC News reports, the pigeon was taken into custody on Thursday after a 14-year-old boy found it in a historically tumultuous region along the India-Pakistan border. The bird, whose name has not been disclosed, reportedly had a "stamped message" on its body that was partially written in Urdu. The message also included a Pakistani phone number. An X-ray of the bird didn't show anything out of the ordinary, but police have nevertheless registered it as a "suspected spy" and are keeping it in custody.

"This is a rare instance of a bird from Pakistan being spotted here," police superintendent Rakesh Kaushal told The Times of India. "We have caught a few spies here. The area is sensitive, given its proximity to Jammu, where infiltration is quite common."

This isn't the first time that a bird has been caught in the middle of an international dispute. In 2008, Iranian authorities arrested two pigeons accused of spying on a nuclear facility, and a stork was detained in Egypt two years ago after being spotted with a mysterious device attached to its feathers. Others have been targeted as potential terrorists. Last year, Chinese officials probed 10,000 pigeon anuses amid fears that they may be carrying bombs.

No word yet on whether the pigeon arrested this week has hired a lawyer.
 
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The covert war started with 1971. So don't blame Pakistan for paying back in same currency

It started in 1948 with the kabailis and then 1965 with the infiltrators.

You are right that you were pain back in the same coin in 1971 and you shouldn't blame others if they got better results because they were better and more competent.

Pakistan should realize that the response from India will be more than proportionate once it comes. It may be glad that it is seemingly getting away with Mumbai but it may really end up losing Balochistan as Mr. Doval has warned clearly.

You decide what you want. As that Arbaaz Khan dialog goes in a cheap Hindi movie...

Dudh mangoge to kheer denge, Kashmir mangoge to cheer denge...
 
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It started in 1948 with the kabailis and then 1965 with the infiltrators.

You are right that you were pain back in the same coin in 1971 and you shouldn't blame others if they got better results because they were better and more competent.

Pakistan should realize that the response from India will be more than proportionate once it comes. It may be glad that it is seemingly getting away with Mumbai but it may really end up losing Balochistan as Mr. Doval has warned clearly.

You decide what you want. As that Arbaaz Khan dialog goes in a cheap Hindi movie...

Dudh mangoge to kheer denge, Kashmir mangoge to cheer denge...

Was Kashmir part of India when we invaded Kashmir ? No. And a little history lesson would tell you before we invaded kashmir, You had already annexed Junagarh. So even in 47-48 You were the first one in propagating proxy wars.
 
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Was Kashmir part of India when we invaded Kashmir ? No. And a little history lesson would tell you before we invaded kashmir, You had already annexed Junagarh. So even in 47-48 You were the first one in propagating proxy wars.

You violated the standstill agreement and India got involved after the signing of the IOA.

Junagarh (and later Hyderabad) were not proxy wars. They were full fledged annexation with legal army operation. Pakistan trying to get these vastly Hindu majority areas was a travesty of the two nation theory by Mr. Jinnah.

The same theory that he himself propounded and used to create Pakistan!

1965 infiltration was also started by Pakistan, so was every war.

Anyway, no point in spending too much time on this. Its a never ending thing.

As far as I am concerned, India and Pakistan should leave each other alone for a few decades. Just forget that the other country exists and mind our own business.
 
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