'Restricted UNSC prevents small nations' voice to be heard'

[Chinese-Dragon]

Not P5 and allies .Only US and allies because Russia and China is on their own.
UK and France is just a shadow of US.
But India ,Iran etc are not likethat.
When the pressure of these developing nation increases the so called P5 will become just another organization.

Might is alwags right.
India will continue this growth , to a point that the diktat of the UN will become ineffective. That will happen within one decade.
Other nations will also follow us.
What is the uses of these P5 when an outside nation has more power than that .?

Uh, BOTH Britain and France have larger economies and larger defence budgets than India does. (Not even counting technology or soft power).

And those two are the weakest links in the P5.

I'm sure you know that the Rafale is from France and Britain is a founding member of the Eurofighter project.

 

[Srinivas]

Uh, BOTH Britain and France have larger economies and larger defence budgets than India does. (Not even counting technology or soft power).

And those two are the weakest links in the P5.

I'm sure you know that the Rafale is from France and Britain is a founding member of the Eurofighter project.

What is your point?

The three losers got the seat in P5 and one of the loser China is ranting to not to perform reforms at UN.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

What is your point?

The three losers got the seat in P5 and one of the loser China is ranting to not to perform reforms at UN.

The country with more poor than the continent of Africa calling members of the P5 "losers"?

Is that supposed to be ironic?

India didn't even exist when the UNSC was formed.

 

[Srinivas]

The country with more poor than the continent of Africa calling members of the P5 "losers"?

Is that supposed to be ironic?

India didn't even exist when the UNSC was formed.

The country whose human rights record is worse than the evil dictators and rulers is placed in p5 , this is more worse than being poor.

Power is given so that countries who take responsibility, being poor has nothing to do with power.

But being oppressive to its own people deserved to be kicked out of P5.

 

[EAsian]

The country whose human rights record is worse than the evil dictators and rulers is placed in p5 , this is more worse than being poor.

Power is given so that countries take responsibility, being poor has nothing to do with power.

But being oppressive to its own people deserved to be kicked out of P5.

LOL，Indians are naive.Nobody can give you power,We earn a seat in P5 because we are powerful.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The country whose human rights record is worse than the evil dictators and rulers is placed in p5 , this is more worse than being poor.

Power is given so that countries take responsibility, being poor has nothing to do with power.

But being oppressive to its own people deserved to be kicked out of P5.

So why did Modi come to China to beg us for a UNSC seat?

PM Narendra Modi asks China to back India's bid for UNSC seat, NSG membership - Economic Times

Guess what the answer was?

 

[Srinivas]

So why did Modi come to China to beg us for a UNSC seat?

PM Narendra Modi asks China to back India's bid for UNSC seat, NSG membership - Economic Times

Guess what the answer was?

Ok lizard don't imagine yourself as a mythical bird Dragon. Modi's visit is part and parcel of Diplomacy. India also went to C.Asian states and requested to support India's UNSC bid.

Whether you like it or not India is going to play a crucial role in shaping up the globe.

This is how we see China when it refuses India's request.

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[Chinese-Dragon]

Ok lizard don't imagine yourself as a mythical bird Dragon. Modi's visit is part and parcel of Diplomacy. India also went to C.Asian states and requested to support India's UNSC bid.

Whether you like it or not India is going to play a crucial role in shaping up the globe.

This is how we see China when it refuses India's request.

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Sorry to break it to you, but you guys have been asking for a UNSC permanent seat for over a decade now.

According to the UN charter itself, you need ALL of the P5 members to support a reform resolution. Every single one.

If even one P5 member abstains (veto not even necessary) then it can't go through.

See the quote from the UN charter on the first page.

 

[Srinivas]

Sorry to break it to you, but you guys have been asking for a UNSC permanent seat for over a decade now.

According to the UN charter itself, you need ALL of the P5 members to support a reform resolution. Every single one.

If even one P5 member abstains (veto not even necessary) then it can't go through.

See the quote from the UN charter on the first page.

Those stupid clauses remain if UN reforms are not happened, I doubt those clauses will remain in the coming days.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Those stupid clauses remain if UN reforms are not happened, I doubt those clauses will remain in the coming days.

You don't understand, it is from the UN charter itself. Which cannot be changed without the full support of EVERY single one of the P5 members. Read it yourself, it's quoted on the first page.

And what's with the picture of a beaten up dragon?

Do you think it would be fair for someone to post a video of people beating up a cow?

 

[Srinivas]

You don't understand, it is from the UN charter itself. Which cannot be changed without the full support of EVERY single one of the P5 members. Read it yourself, it's quoted on the first page.

And what's with the picture of a beaten up dragon?

Do you think it would be fair for someone to post a video of people beating up a cow?

Oh .... I do not know you have such love for a mythical bird.

The globe is changing fast and UN reforms are the must to remain relevant, get ready for UN reforms.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Not P5 and allies .Only US and allies because Russia and China is on their own.
UK and France is just a shadow of US.
But India ,Iran etc are not likethat.
When the pressure of these developing nation increases the so called P5 will become just another organization.

Might is alwags right.
India will continue this growth , to a point that the diktat of the UN will become ineffective. That will happen within one decade.
Other nations will also follow us.
What is the uses of these P5 when an outside nation has more power than that .?

Lool good luck. Lets wait for 10 years and see India rise to superpowedom where europe and other nations can follow india's leadership.
Hope india wont turn us into its slaves though? India should show us mercy.

 

[SrNair]

Uh, BOTH Britain and France have larger economies and larger defence budgets than India does. (Not even counting technology or soft power).

And those two are the weakest links in the P5.

I'm sure you know that the Rafale is from France and Britain is a founding member of the Eurofighter project.

For how long ?
You are comparing two totally saturated nation with a developing nation having unlimited potential .

Soft power???
Did you see the World response when we held International Yoga day ?TTA should maintain more knowledge about soft power.
Because when it comes to soft power India is still ahead than those nations.
US has powerful soft power even better than us.UK and France are just a shadow.

Oh Really??
And India also has their own project .We are pumping money ,technology and manpower(again unlimited potential) in to such fields.
Our economy grows and a fixed portion will flow on those area .Within two decade you will see totally made in India weapons.We formulated policy only after 2010 for serious private involvement.

Have you heard about ISRO ?
AFAIK UK dont have any such space org?

 

[mike2000 is back]

Uh, BOTH Britain and France have larger economies and larger defence budgets than India does. (Not even counting technology or soft power).

And those two are the weakest links in the P5.

I'm sure you know that the Rafale is from France and Britain is a founding member of the Eurofighter project.

Why do you even bother explaining such stuffs to them? Lool

For how long ?
You are comparing two totally saturated nation with a developing nation having unlimited potential .

Soft power???
Did you see the World response when we held International Yoga day ?TTA should maintain more knowledge about soft power.
Because when it comes to soft power India is still ahead than those nations.
US has powerful soft power even better than us.UK and France are just a shadow.

Oh Really??
And India also has their own project .We are pumping money ,technology and manpower(again unlimited potential) in to such fields.
Our economy grows and a fixed portion will flow on those area .Within two decade you will see totally made in India weapons.We formulated policy only after 2010 for serious private involvement.

Have you heard about ISRO ?
AFAIK UK dont have any such space org?

@Chinese-Dragon , see what i meant?

 

[SrNair]

Lool good luck. Lets wait for 10 years and see India rise to superpowedom where europe and other nations can follow india's leadership.
Hope india wont turn us into its slaves though? India should show us mercy.

Still didnt interested in taking that peanuts?Right?
UK is just a puny shadow of US ,just a shadow.What do you have your own except that surplus foreign aid after cutting of the your own internal budget ?

France is still better than that .

Did you see that US-India diplomatic tussle ?Sorry the so called special relationship with US wont allow you to straighten your bended back bone.

How many times did your PM visits India last decade?How much time Indian PM spent for the same cause ?

Why do you even bother explaining such stuffs to them? Lool




@Chinese-Dragon , see what i meant?

Please spend those foreign aud peanut for your own squeezing country budget.

The country with more poor than the continent of Africa calling members of the P5 "losers"?

Is that supposed to be ironic?

India didn't even exist when the UNSC was formed.

And Tibet was not also there when you got the UNSC seat .

UNSC will get more credibility if they allow India .Otherwise within few years we will take action on our own and wouldnt hear the whining of the UNSC.
Simple.You cant ignore the voice of world fastest economy that having 129 crore people.
Poverty .We have had 98% poverty when ee got the independence .Now it is just 21%.
Sorry dont teach us about poverty reduction.
We didnt employ inhumane methods that did in your own nation.