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respect and support your forces before its too late

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It all can happen when we think at.global scale and not just Pakistan

We need to acknowledge that.pakistsn is alone and our stinky nationalism which makes us think that we are superior.

We.need.to.decide who.is.our enemy and where do we stand. We mostly act like twats at international level.
We have the passion to.fight but we can be more smart about it
 
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Yep we are pakistani muslims. And united.

Those who cry sunni or shia can go **** themselves. Go to hell cuz thats their true place for both sunniz and shiaz. Paradise is not for those who divide a nation.
 
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BELIEVE ME, the Americans, indians and ALL other enemies WANTED to do the above ×10, to Pakistan. They failed miserably though. Our military and NUKES are the ONE THING preventing a far worst version of the above happening to Pakistan. NEVER EVER forget that FACT.

Believe me that this is propaganda. I realize Pakistan has reasons to not trust the west, but to believe we want to destroy you?
If only Palistani media was allowed the properly report the amount of cooperation between our services. The amount of help given when needed the most.
 

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Black checks should not be given to any individual or group of individuals regardless of their professional, financial or ethnic background.
 
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Respect and preparation should go together. We need to prepare for USA. Yes we are nuclear power but still one day USA will come after us. We need to develop ICBMs along with adding submarines which can deliver Cruise Missiles and Ballistic Missiles. Also other systems needs to be added. Plus develop our cyber warfare capability.
 
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sorry sir i have different views . am talking about dictators who considered constitution just a piece of paper to throw in dustbin
I understand who you were alluding to thus the need to distinguish the thousands of Pakistani generals who have worked admirably in the service of their nation versus the 4 who took power. ;-)

I would also like to state one thing which is a fact. The preservation of the state will ALWAYS come before the constitution for the armed forces. You and others may not like me stating this as it is not in vogue but if the Army feels that it is between letting Pakistan go down or to abide by the constitution, they will always go for the first even if every sort of military takeover is considered illegal and punishable by death. This is built into the ethos of the military and future officers will be willing to put their own lives on the line for the state. The only thing that will change this is time and more maturity from the ruling class in administering the country.

The corollary to this is that if the country is doing well then the military will absolutely abide by the constitution.
 
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If you don't give people roti, kapra, makaan and sex then they don't give a fu(k.
You're going to get even less (if any) Roti, Kapra, Makaan and sex in a destabilized country with no strong central authority - that's the point IK is making here.

He's not saying that we shouldn't push for change, improve our democratic system and civilian institutions, but that you'll pay a very heavy price if you try to do that by first tearing down the Army. Even the US admits that disbanding the Iraqi Army after the invasion was a mistake because not only did it leave a vacuum of trained soldiers, but the soldiers themselves then joined the insurgency against the US and many were absorbed by extremist groups.

It's also important to recognize that even in democracies like the US, the military/intelligence establishment has a very strong voice in matters of foreign affairs and national security. The US President and Congress are regularly briefed by the military and intelligence agencies in both open and closed door meetings. No one says that the 'US President and/or Congress are in the pocket of the Establishment' or that they're 'boot lickers' because they defer to the Establishment position many times. The problem in Pakistan has become one where anyone agreeing with the military's positions automatically becomes a 'boot licker' or an 'Army proxy'. So we need to distinguish between the Pakistani military/intelligence having a strong voice that is respected by the political parties and so called 'Army is driving the car with the elected government in the backseat'.

As I have often said, if an elected government thinks that the Army is forcing decisions upon it, then it should resign. Don't use 'anonymous sources' and media leaks to whine and complain about the Army and undermine it. I like the fact that, so far, no major incident of the PTI blaming the Army for forcing decisions upon it has come forward, even though sections of the Pakistani media opposed to the Army and sympathetic to the opposition have tried to argue that the Army is responsible for PTI policies and Imran Khan is just sitting around as a figurehead. Imran Khan and the PTI own all the unpopular & popular decisions they have made.
 
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Believe me that this is propaganda. I realize Pakistan has reasons to not trust the west, but to believe we want to destroy you?
If only Palistani media was allowed the properly report the amount of cooperation between our services. The amount of help given when needed the most.
i agree with you west do not want us to be destroyed but once game started everyone will have its shear like syria afghanistan libya . so better not to give chance to west or anyone to use our country as play ground iraq is best example .
 
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People respect the armed forces dont be fooled by some bitches of the riches in the fake news media

There is not even an iota of doubt in it.
The 2018 election resulted halted all their plans and now you see them frustrated by a government and army that speaks in unison
 
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