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Residents say a bombing raid Friday killed nine women, six children and two male civilians

Media has no access yet washington post does.....
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Whatever, dont trust it considering the upper sentance ^.
 
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Media has no access yet washington post does.....
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Whatever, dont trust it considering the upper sentance ^.

I assume media has the access but won't report it as it happen in India too. It's called selective news.

Also collateral damage in air strike is unavoidable.
 
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only mirali and miranshah are evacuated not other areas like shawal etc
 
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Zarb-e-Azb operation: Reports of civilian deaths pour in as tribesmen threaten protests
By AFP
Published: July 22, 2014
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This file photo taken on July 13, 2014 shows internally displaced civilians who fled a military operation against Taliban militants in the North Waziristan Agency, queuing outside the World Food Programme food distribution centre in Bannu. PHOTO: AFP

BANNU: When Pakistan Air Force jets rained down missiles on a village in North Waziristan last week, it was described as yet another victory over Taliban insurgents in an ongoing military offensive.

Now a new account has emerged of the killing of dozens of women and children in the air strikes, sparking anger over rising civilian casualties and fears that a new generation of radicals is being created.

“Today early morning 35 fleeing terrorists were killed through aerial strikes in Shawal Valley.” That was how the ISPR chose to describe the July 16 incident. The press statement was part of a regular series of updates sent out by the army since the operation in North Waziristan tribal district, aimed at clearing Taliban strongholds, began in mid-June.

Almost 500 “militants” are said to have been killed in the fighting so far, which has been enthusiastically backed by the country’s major political parties and media, who see it as a means of tackling a decade-long insurgency that has claimed thousands of lives.

But the official toll has been impossible to verify, raising questions among rights activists over the offensive’s true human cost.

According to multiple accounts by residents, 37 civilians were killed in Wednesday’s attack — including 20 women and 10 children.

While villagers grieve, the incident has become a focus of rising anger among tribesmen who have managed to flee to border towns inside Pakistan, and who on Monday threatened to march on Islamabad if the operation does not end soon.

The bombardment in the Shawal Valley began just before 1:00 am, lighting up the sky as residents of Zoi Saidgai village sat down to eat their pre-dawn Ramadan meal.

“It continued for hours, targeting 11 houses,” Malik Mirzal Khan, an elder who lost his daughter and brother in the strikes, told AFP from a payphone in his village.

“A single bomb dropped from the plane blew up two mud houses and the explosions could be heard 30 kilometres away,” Khan, part of a high-level peace council that attempted to avert the government offensive before it began, said.

He added that residents had made a list of the dead, and none of them were militants.

“My 13-year-old daughter, brother, his wife and two of his kids were killed,” he said.

The rest, Khan added, “were not local or foreign militants, but innocent civilians who were killed. There were men, women, boys and girls. Those seven men who died were never involved in militancy.”

Noor Wali Khan, a 27-year-old truck driver, said he lost his mother and two-sisters-in-law when his house was bombed, while his brother and father are seriously wounded.

Both men’s accounts were backed up by three other witnesses and relatives AFP spoke to, but the military has so far refused to comment on the matter on the record.

A senior security official speaking, requesting anonymity, has said those who were killed had plenty of warning to evacuate.

“If a terrorist is living with his family and does not abandon them even during the time of operation and we have solid ground intelligence about the terrorist and we target his hideout, what would you call it, collateral damage or what?” the source asked.

“If a terrorist is using his family as human shields what do you expect the military to do?”

Khan, the elder, said his village was never informed it would be a target.

“In the meetings with military and civil officials, we had been assured to stay home as our areas were declared safe and free from militant control,” he said, adding that he had conveyed the same message to the local population and had forbidden them from leaving their own houses.

And he said he was furious with the government.

“America is our enemy, but they have never taken such cruel action against us which we had witnessed from the Pakistani government — our own country.”

According to the residents, no rescue officials were able to reach the remote area and locals dug out corpses using tools and tractors.

Anti-government sentiment is running high in the village, fuelling fears among observers that the military action could backfire by creating new recruits for the militants.

Wali Muhammad, a 28-year-old shopkeeper, said that the nature of Wednesday’s strikes meant the facts would eventually be known, despite the army’s claims.

“You can’t cover up the sun with a finger,” he said, using a Pashto expression that roughly translates to: “The truth will come out”.

Some 500 villagers turned out for funeral prayers to mourn the dead. “There were tears in the eyes of every person who participated,” Muhammad said.

Asked whether militants had sought shelter in the village, Umar Khalid, a 35-year-old farmer, grew angry.

“The government is powerful and we cannot stop its brutalities. But it was women who were targeted in this strike, not militants.”

In Bannu, where tribesmen held a jirga Monday, elders said the Shawal Valley attack was not an isolated incident.

“We want the military operation to be completed as soon as possible because civilians are suffering the most,” Malik Nasrullah, the chief elder of the North Waziristan tribes, told reporters.

Malik Mirzal Khan, the elder from Shawal, demanded an investigation into the air strike — a request that is unlikely to be met.

“We want to make sure such action should not be repeated for other people who are still living in Waziristan,” he said.
 
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and when I compared this Op to a small scale of what's happening in Gaza, every one went nuts.

Always, when these kind of operation r being started the call is given to evacuate the area. If the news is true than it is sad but Army is not responsible.
COrrect.. Air force is
 
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and when I compared this Op to a small scale of what's happening in Gaza, every one went nuts.


COrrect.. Air force is

come on yaar, Ghaza seriously? its not like if you are an indian you have to defend every ill of Israel
 
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Sad news. Unfortunately these people don't even get proper coverage.
 
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and when I compared this Op to a small scale of what's happening in Gaza, every one went nuts.

If you compare the population densities of the two regions, there is no comparison. Hitting a sparsely populated area, where the population was given weeks to leave and the army has set up facilities for, is different from hitting the most densely packed areas in the world (Gaza Strip), giving people three minutes to leave and then setting up nothing for them.

There is no comparison.

On the subject of civilian deaths, I do believe they have happened the government should address this. A sad state of affairs these poor folks were caught up. Allah rest their souls.
 
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come on yaar, Ghaza seriously? its not like if you are an indian you have to defend every ill of Israel

If you compare the population densities of the two regions, there is no comparison. Hitting a sparsely populated area, where the population was given weeks to leave and the army has set up facilities for, is different from hitting the most densely packed areas in the world (Gaza Strip), giving people three minutes to leave and then setting up nothing for them.

There is no comparison.

On the subject of civilian deaths, I do believe they have happened the government should address this. A sad state of affairs these poor folks were caught up. Allah rest their souls.

Arre nahin yaar.. comparing In terms of civilian deaths in both cases while attacking terror groups. To be clear. Hate what Israel is doing. Also hold Hamas responsible for it. Realize that what Pak Army is doing in NW is necessary. Am sure there is collateral damage. Just dont like when people claim that not a single civilian has died in Pakistani coin operations in NW.
 
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Arre nahin yaar.. comparing In terms of civilian deaths in both cases while attacking terror groups. To be clear. Hate what Israel is doing. Also hold Hamas responsible for it. Realize that what Pak Army is doing in NW is necessary. Am sure there is collateral damage. Just dont like when people claim that not a single civilian has died in Pakistani coin operations in NW.

You're right that it is nonsense to suggest not a single civilian has died in the NW operations.
 
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