Report: ‘Torture’ Tools Around the World Made in, Sold By China

[Aepsilons]

Fair treatment by American regime security forces? Only if you're white.

Explain Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Mumia Abu-Jamal, Sundiata Acoli, Imam Jamil Al-Amin, et al.

 

[AgentOrange]

Only in America where terrorists are given due process of the law. As in the case of the Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Guaranteed had they done that in Russia or China, they would have been long dead, executed already.

I admit the American Judicial system is as impartial as it gets, as close to as 'desired perfection'. Almost to a flaw...!

Your naivety is showing. During the hunt for Tsarnaev, American security forces basically crapped on due process when they started barging into people's homes without warrants to search for an injured and scared suspect. If all it takes is 3 deaths to trigger gestapo-like tactics, all under the approving gaze of a manipulated and compliant "free" media then you have a very low standard for what constitutes "perfection." Lmao.

 

[Aepsilons]

Your naivety is showing. During the hunt for Tsarnaev, American security forces basically crapped on due process when they started barging into people's homes without warrants to search for an injured and scared suspect. If all it takes is 3 deaths to trigger gestapo-like tactics, all under the approving gaze of a manipulated and compliant "free" media then you have a very low standard for what constitutes "perfection." Lmao.

The Boston Bombings resulted in the deaths of 3 people, and the injury, maiming of hundreds of innocents. It was a callous act of destruction on innocents.

I personally am for the death sentence of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. No mercy.

I'm even surprised he is even afforded a fair trial, given his act of treason.

 

[AgentOrange]

Explain Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Mumia Abu-Jamal, Sundiata Acoli, Imam Jamil Al-Amin, et al.

Explain Michael Brown, John Crawford III, Amadou Diallo, Levar Edward Jones, Eric Garner, etc etc.

The Boston Bombings resulted in the deaths of 3 people, and the injury, maiming of hundreds of innocents. It was a callous act of destruction on innocents.

I personally am for the death sentence of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. No mercy.

I'm even surprised he is even afforded a fair trial, given his act of treason.

You're surprised he's afforded a fair trial? Even after your verbal fellatio of the "perfect US Justice system"? And you want him executed without a trial and with no mercy. You say you're a Christian too right?

The more I read what the yellow man is doing, the more I get disgusted

Do something about it. Go help your Uighur brothers under Chinese "oppression" if you've got a pair. But in the meantime, how about some reparations for the millions of Armenians you Turks have killed? Oops....according to Turkey (and no one else on earth) that didn't happen right?

 

[Aepsilons]

You're surprised he's afforded a fair trial? Even after your verbal fellatio of the "perfect US Justice system"? And you want him executed without a trial and with no mercy. You say you're a Christian too right?

I acknowledge that the United States Judicial System will afford him a fair trial, i mean he already has one of the best defense trial lawyers on his case -- Judy Clarke.

My personal views are my own, not the US government or the Judicial System. And yes, I will repeat that he deserves the death penalty for his involvement. He and his brother had the gall to plan the death and destruction of innocents; I say let them reap what they soweth.

 

[XiaoYaoZi]

Yes quite well indeed.

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Something wrong with you, they are the defender of Peace and Justice of the world, they are American heros

 

[Infra_Man99]

I'm not in a position to say one way or another, but my perception is that I would rather be a prisoner of the US security apparatus (police, military) than of the Chinese security apparatus. Especially because I would be entitled to due process and a fair trial in the US. On the other side of the spectrum, despite all the whining, the Guantanamo detainees are treated very, very well.

There are various reports of US "anti-terrorist" prison guards, interrogators, and torturers raping and torturing to death the inmates, and then the US authorities claim the inmates are liars or committed suicide. Some pictures leaked out in the past, but the US "liberators" quickly censored those pictures and hunted down the leakers.

US domestic prisons are filled with stories of prison guards sexually abuse both male and female inmates, male inmates raping each other, prison guards beating up and murdering inmates, inmates attacking and killing each other, inmates stealing from each other, etc.

For anyone who follows news about US cops, then US cops are known for brutality and corruption. The US legal system also has its critics, because the US legal system favors rich people over the middle class and poor people, favors well-connected people over the average person, favors US government officials over lower ranking people, uses a jury system consisting of dumb members with racial biases, etc.

Israeli prisons for Palestinians are probably the worse in the world. The stories I've read about Nazi Israeli wiping Palestine off the map . . . The US sends endless aid to Israel.

 

[William Hung]

I'm not in a position to say one way or another, but my perception is that I would rather be a prisoner of the US security apparatus (police, military) than of the Chinese security apparatus. Especially because I would be entitled to due process and a fair trial in the US. On the other side of the spectrum, despite all the whining, the Guantanamo detainees are treated very, very well.

Only in America where terrorists are given due process of the law. As in the case of the Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Guaranteed had they done that in Russia or China, they would have been long dead, executed already.

I admit the American Judicial system is as impartial as it gets, as close to as 'desired perfection'. Almost to a flaw...!

Desired perfection? almost to a flaw? Oh please, my dear "Nihonjin".

RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR GET PRISON - IDEOLOGY, CLASS, AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE

Abstracts Database - National Criminal Justice Reference Service

Article abstract:

THE CURRENT CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS SHAPED BY ECONOMIC BIAS--CRIMES UNIQUE TO THE WEALTHY ARE EITHER IGNORED OR TREATED LIGHTLY, WHILE THE SO-CALLED COMMON CRIMES OF THE POOR LEAD TO ARREST, CHARGES, CONVICTION, AND IMPRISONMENT. THE THREE PROPOSITIONS THAT SUPPORT THIS STATEMENT ARE THAT (1) SOCIETY FAILS TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM CRIMES THEY FEAR (HOMICIDE, BURGLARY, ASSAULT) BY REFUSING TO ALLEVIATE THE POVERTY THAT BREEDS THEM; (2) THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM FAILS TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM THE MOST SERIOUS DANGERS BY FAILING TO DEFINE AS CRIMES THE DANGEROUS ACTS OF THOSE WHO ARE WELL OFF (WHITE COLLAR CRIME, POLLUTION, OCCUPATIONAL HAZARDS) AND TO PROSECUTE ACCORDINGLY; AND (3) BY VIRTUE OF THESE AND OTHER FAILURES, THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM SUCCEEDS IN CREATING THE IMAGE THAT CRIME IS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY THE WORK OF THE POOR, AN IMAGE THAT SERVES THE INTERESTS OF THE POWERFUL. BY FOCUSING ON INDIVIDUAL CRIMINALS WHO ARE POOR, THE SYSTEM DIVERTS ATTENTION FROM THE INJUSTICES OF SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC INSTITUTIONS. THE FAILURE TO REDUCE CRIME REINFORCES THIS SITUATION BY CONCENTRATING FEAR AND HOSTILITY ON THE POOR. AT THE BASE OF UNEQUAL JUSTICE IS THE UNEQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH AND INCOME. A CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM CANNOT HOLD INDIVIDUALS GUILTY OF THE INJUSTICE OF BREAKING THE LAW IF THE LAW ITSELF SUPPORTS AND DEFENDS AN UNJUST SOCIAL ORDER. TO COUNTERACT THIS FAILURE, STEPS MUST BE TAKEN TOWARD DOMESTIC DISARMAMENT; CRIMINALIZATION OF WHITE-COLLAR CRIMES; CREATION OF A CORRECTIONAL SYSTEM THAT PROMOTES HUMAN DIGNITY AND GIVES EX-OFFENDERS A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO GO STRAIGHT; A MORE REASONABLE EXERCISE OF POWER BY POLICE OFFICERS, PROSECUTORS, AND JUDGES; AND EQUAL ACCESS TO HIGH-QUALITY LEGAL EXPERTISE FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS ACCUSED OF CRIME. EXTENSIVE FOOTNOTES ACCOMPANY EACH CHAPTER AND AN INDEX IS PROVIDED.

Tsarnaev was a very high profile criminal/terrorist, a lot of people around the world was curious about him, so of course he would get a special treatment in the judicial system.

 

[AgentOrange]

There are various reports of US "anti-terrorist" prison guards, interrogators, and torturers raping and torturing to death the inmates, and then the US authorities claim the inmates are liars or committed suicide. Some pictures leaked out in the past, but the US "liberators" quickly censored those pictures and hunted down the leakers.

US domestic prisons are filled with stories of prison guards sexually abuse both male and female inmates, male inmates raping each other, prison guards beating up and murdering inmates, inmates attacking and killing each other, inmates stealing from each other, etc.

For anyone who follows news about US cops, then US cops are known for brutality and corruption. The US legal system also has its critics, because the US legal system favors rich people over the middle class and poor people, favors well-connected people over the average person, favors US government officials over lower ranking people, uses a jury system consisting of dumb members with racial biases, etc.

Israeli prisons for Palestinians are probably the worse in the world. The stories I've read about Nazi Israeli wiping Palestine off the map . . . The US sends endless aid to Israel.

Well said. The US has less than 5 percent of the world's population but more than 25 percent of the world's prisoners. And given the rampant violence, rape, psychological torment, and dehumanization endemic to American correctional facilities, I'd say that the biggest and most commonly used torture device is made in the USA. It's called American prison. But according to leveraged buyout, prisoners are not only treated well. They're treated very very very well.

 

[William Hung]

I seriously don't know what would be worse: getting abused/tortured by prison security or getting raped and shanked by other inmates because of the failure of the prison security, deliberate or undeliberately:

The Roots of Prison Violence: A Test of the Deprivation, Management, and “Not-So-Total” Institution Models

Crime & Delinquency

abstract:

Studies of prison violence typically focus either on individual-level aggression or large-scale collective acts. Most past work consists of case studies, limiting the generalizations from the results. The present study used data from 371 state prisons and measures of both individual and collective violence and attempted to identify the structural, managerial, and environmental determinants of prison disorder. Findings suggest that poor prison management is a predictor of rates of assault toward inmates and staff. However, the likelihood of prison riots is largely independent of structural, managerial, and environmental factors. The article also discusses the implications for public policy.

Your naivety is showing. During the hunt for Tsarnaev, American security forces basically crapped on due process when they started barging into people's homes without warrants to search for an injured and scared suspect. If all it takes is 3 deaths to trigger gestapo-like tactics, all under the approving gaze of a manipulated and compliant "free" media then you have a very low standard for what constitutes "perfection." Lmao.

Nah, his naivety is not showing, it's just his true colour is starting to show up. Playing naive is just a rhetorical device to make fun of something, to get a point across, to be sarcastic or sometime just to troll.

 

[LeveragedBuyout]

Desired perfection? almost to a flaw? Oh please, my dear "Nihonjin".

RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR GET PRISON - IDEOLOGY, CLASS, AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE

Abstracts Database - National Criminal Justice Reference Service

Article abstract:



Tsarnaev was a very high profile criminal/terrorist, a lot of people around the world was curious about him, so of course he would get a special treatment in the judicial system.

The US judicial system, despite its flaws, is transparent, and remember that due process includes the right to appeal.

Beyond that, I find complaints about the US judicial system to be mendacious. The system is tilted to favor the accused, whether it's being judged by a jury of one's peers (where emotion can be manipulated), to Miranda rights, to free representation if none can be afforded, to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty (above the high threshold of reasonable doubt). As long as humans are involved in the judicial process, this is about as good as it gets.

 

[Developereo]

I'm even surprised he is even afforded a fair trial, given his act of treason.

That's called a Freudian slip.

"The accused will be given a fair trial before being hanged".

 

[Aepsilons]

That's called a Freudian slip.

"The accused will be given a fair trial before being hanged".

If he was in Japan, he would have been hung till dead.

The explosive device they created was intended to kill hundreds. One of the victims was a young boy barely the age of 10. What did he do to deserve such a demise? Or the 200+ people who were maimed by that explosion?

In fact, those terrorists were taken in by the United States as refugees, American citizens' tax payer dollars were used to provide them homes, send them to school. They were taken in from their war torn region of Dagestan (incidentally a war torn region due to fighting in Russia). So, is it right for them to show and exert their anger and wrath on the very nation (USA) that housed them, brought them in and included them into their numbers?

Their actions is treason.

 

[Developereo]

If he was in Japan, he would have been hung till dead.

The explosive device they created was intended to kill hundreds. One of the victims was a young boy barely the age of 10. What did he do to deserve such a demise? Or the 200+ people who were maimed by that explosion?

In fact, those terrorists were taken in by the United States as refugees, American citizens' tax payer dollars were used to provide them homes, send them to school. They were taken in from their war torn region of Dagestan (incidentally a war torn region due to fighting in Russia). So, is it right for them to show and exert their anger and wrath on the very nation (USA) that housed them, brought them in and included them into their numbers?

Their actions is treason.

That's the danger with trial-by-media.

I also read that the US was using them as pawns in some shady dealings with the Russians. Lots of claims in the media.

That's why we have the judicial system to let the courts decide these things, instead of journalists.

 

[Aepsilons]

That's the danger with trial-by-media.

I also read that the US was using them as pawns in some shady dealings with the Russians. Lots of claims in the media.

That's why we have the judicial system to let the courts decide these things, instead of journalists.

Despite my personal reservations against this person. He is entitled to rights to due process of the law, and to right to representation in the US Justice System and to a Fair Trial. Whatever the case, I hope the Law's Verdict is True.