Replacing the F-16: Will Pakistan’s Top Fighter Squadron Transition to Chinese J-10Cs?

[White and Green with M/S]

What about the possibility that these random tweets are actually from PAF guys.... Hybrid info game

You're just speculating brother

 

[NA71]

You're just speculating brother

Ji bilkul.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

It is confirmed that "" J20 is a STEALTH JET Fighter , 5th Generation"". While cofirmed that Rafale jet fighter is a 4th Generation. Confirmed by world that J-10C and JF-17-Blok3 jet fighters are 4.5 Gen jet fifgters .

NOTE;; It is not mandatory for you all to believe these information. For confirmation, go and do full search on Google, Yahoo, and other search engines worldwide.

You're again wrong, RAFALE is also 4.5th gen jet

 

[mdmm]

You're again wrong, RAFALE is also 4.5th gen jet

DELETED the post .I discovered that a group of members in this forum, who are ...........................

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Mr. White and Green .
I am 10000 % right and you are totally wrong and false .
STOP attacking my post.

Do research and don't live in your fairy tales, latest RAFALE version that Qatar/Egypt/ and India is getting is a 4,5th gen jets, And RAFALE is way way ahead from JF 17 Block3 and that's a fact, and i am not attacking your post but trying to correct you lol

 

[iLION12345_1]

J-10Cs are NOT Going to be replacing F-16s at all. Wether PAF gets them or not remains to be seen but the F-16s aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. We have F7PGs and Mirages to replace. Any incoming J-10Cs will be used to replace those. As stated at the start of the thread, Pakistani F-16s got a lot of upgrades including airframe lime extensions. So let’s please get any such doubts out of our minds and just wait patiently as the new comes.

 

[Incog_nito]

Will the current F-16 A/Bs going to move to Jacobabad Air Base?

 

[Scorpiooo]

IMO, F16s are not going anywhere they will be remains front line jets ( whither we got new f16s or not) ...

J10x will be in 2 main roles, one as second line (backups) of j16s (in case of future restrictions from American)

Second replacement of mirages along with JFTs

J10C will be used for offensive role

Role of F16s will be taken in future by AZM or any other 5th gen fighter

 

[iLION12345_1]

IMO, F16s are not going anywhere they will be remains front line jets ( whither we got new f16s or not) ...

J10x will be in 2 main roles, one as second line (backups) of j16s (in case of future restrictions from American)

Second replacement of mirages along with JFTs

J10C will be used for offensive role

Role of F16s will be taken in future by AZM or any other 5th gen fighter

Unlikely Pakistan will ever get J-16. FGFA will be a reality before that’s ever needed. Also China is not allowed to export them anyways. If Pakistan wanted flankers it’s would go to Russia for them. But they’re too expensive and don’t really fit in to the PAF.

 

[Scorpiooo]

Unlikely Pakistan will ever get J-16. FGFA will be a reality before that’s ever needed. Also China is not allowed to export them anyways. If Pakistan wanted flankers it’s would go to Russia for them. But they’re too expensive and don’t really fit in to the PAF.

J16s are really a beast, but not likely to happen for Pakistan that easily in reality.
its only possible if Pakistan can get Russian approval via Chinese pressure along some solid commission in deal for Russian. (But Unfortunately we dont have money in reality)

 

[iLION12345_1]

J16s are really a beast, but not likely to happen for Pakistan that easily in reality.
its only possible if Pakistan can get Russian approval via Chinese pressure along some solid commission in deal for Russian. (But Unfortunately we dont have money in reality)

They don’t make sense for Pakistan to acquire anyways if J10C is purchased, J10C is enough to bridge the gap until fifth generation fighters can be acquired post 2030. If Pakistan ever does want flankers, SU35>J-16, but neither are going to happen.

 

[Scorpiooo]

They don’t make sense for Pakistan to acquire anyways if J10C is purchased, J10C is enough to bridge the gap until fifth generation fighters can be acquired post 2030. If Pakistan ever does want flankers, SU35>J-16, but neither are going to happen.

Yes for PAF role combo of F16, J10C and JFTs will be enough along with few J31 5th gen (in future when they came in production) till project AZM came in production.

Only role flankers family members make sense is in Naval role, now if PN and PAF think they need something heavier to protect sea or have some offensive heavier jets to keep indian in there area then they can work on it.

 

[iLION12345_1]

Yes for PAF role combo of F16, J10C and JFTs will be enough along with few J31 5th gen (in future when they came in production) till project AZM came in production.

Only role flankers family members make sense is in Naval role, now if PN and PAF think they need something heavier to protect sea or have some offensive heavier jets to keep indian in there area then they can work on it.

Azm and J-31 might end up being one in the same. Pakistan cannot make a fifth generation fighter on its own. Project Azm is not intending to do so either. Pakistan will design the aircraft, make whatever technologies for the aircraft that it can, then borrow the rest from other programs like TFX and J-31 to complete the aircraft, Ideally anyways, we cannot predict the future.
Designing the aircraft ourselves gives us more control over it unlike the JF, plus the more they can make it themselves, the cheaper and more upgradable it will be.

However it is unlikely Pakistan will purchase An off the shelf 5th Gen fighter while waiting for Azm to complete, it would be a bad investment, rather put that money in the Azm project, because it won’t be too far off by the time J-31 is ready. After all, PAC wants the Azm flying by 2030…

 

[Scorpiooo]

Azm and J-31 might end up being one in the same. Pakistan cannot make a fifth generation fighter on its own. Project Azm is not intending to do so either. Pakistan will design the aircraft, make whatever technologies for the aircraft that it can, then borrow the rest from other programs like TFX and J-31 to complete the aircraft, Ideally anyways, we cannot predict the future.
Designing the aircraft ourselves gives us more control over it unlike the JF, plus the more they can make it themselves, the cheaper and more upgradable it will be.

However it is unlikely Pakistan will purchase An off the shelf 5th Gen fighter while waiting for Azm to complete, it would be a bad investment, rather put that money in the Azm project, because it won’t be too far off by the time J-31 is ready. After all, PAC wants the Azm flying by 2030…

Everything you said make sense, only thing i have dought is that azm will be flying in 2030 , its prototype can be fly post 2030 but production will alteast one and half decade's away.

Suppose indian able to get F35 from American (both parties play Chinese 5th gen card), which is most likely the case then Pakistan cant wait for azm, in that case as stop gap J31 have to be inducted (in limited numbers).

You are right sir azm can possibly a imporved and Pakistan specification advance varaint of J31 or even can be small variant of J20 as well with PAF specification (considering PAC and CAC close corporations)

 

[iLION12345_1]

Everything you said make sense, only thing i have dought is that azm will be flying in 2030 , its prototype can be fly post 2030 but production will alteast one and half decade's away.

Suppose indian able to get F35 from American (both parties play Chinese 5th gen card), which is most likely the case then Pakistan cant wait for azm, in that case as stop gap J31 have to be inducted (in limited numbers).

You are right sir azm can possibly a imporved and Pakistan specification advance varaint of J31 or even can be small variant of J20 as well with PAF specification (considering PAC and CAC close corporations)

It is very ambitious for sure, but not impossible. It’s still gonna be a 10+ year development cycle, and Pakistan won’t be making some of the most complicated stuff like the engines, those will come from J-31 or TFX or something like that. that’s why 2030 is a realistic goal for its first flight and even induction.
It’s hard to predict the future, maybe you’ll be right, maybe I’ll be right, maybe we’ll both be wrong. Either way, let’s hope PAF makes the correct decision, for now we will just wait for these J-10Cs, hopefully a credible source comes forward soon and PAF buys them with the Chinese engines. Can’t wait to see them in PAF colors