Renowned journalist Aftab Iqbal LASHES out on Nawaz Sharif for being Lahore/Punjab Nawaz - Oh he has some stats

[PaklovesTurkiye]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=351991782734790

@Ladyuk I hope you understand what I am trying to convey here....

@Cliftonite ... I am not against Punjabis as I agree with Aftab Iqbal here that average common Punjabi is as innocent as average dude from Karachi.

We are here talking about ELITES...

The ELITES. How shamelessly despite being in federal government numerous times they just focused on their hometown rather than owning whole country.

Note: This video was posted by some Sindhi nationalist FB page, probably....Ignore what they have written in their post...Just focus on Video content.

I am not Sindhi. Being Urdu chap from Karachi, I have stark differences and disagreement with Sindhis over wadera culture and many issues....Just posted their post here for video content....I DO NOT endorse Sindhi nationalists.

Thank you.

 

[Cliftonite]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=351991782734790

@Ladyuk I hope you understand what I am trying to convey here....

@Cliftonite ... I am not against Punjabis as I agree with Aftab Iqbal here that average common Punjabi is as innocent as average dude from Karachi.

We are here talking about ELITES...

The ELITES. How shamelessly despite being in federal government numerous times they just focused on their hometown rather than owning whole country.

Make peace with the the fact that no one is going to do anything for Karachi. It doesn't suit the elites' interests

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Make peace with the the fact that no one is going to do anything for Karachi. It doesn't suit the elites' interests

I am not ready yet to accept that. People in power corridors will NEVER want Karachi going full retard...you know - revenue, port, trade and all that stuff.

Things move and change. Whether Karachi has accepted the current fate or not, it is yet to be seen.

 

[Ladyuk]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=351991782734790

@Ladyuk I hope you understand what I am trying to convey here....

@Cliftonite ... I am not against Punjabis as I agree with Aftab Iqbal here that average common Punjabi is as innocent as average dude from Karachi.

We are here talking about ELITES...

The ELITES. How shamelessly despite being in federal government numerous times they just focused on their hometown rather than owning whole country.

Note: This video was posted by some Sindhi nationalist FB page, probably....Ignore what they have written in their post...Just focus on Video content.

I am not Sindhi. Being Urdu chap from Karachi, I have stark differences and disagreement with Sindhis over wadera culture and many issues....Just posted their post here for video content....I DO NOT endorse Sindhi nationalists.

Thank you.

I perfectly understand what your trying to say, you have regurgitated this racist garabage over and over thread after thread. You can not counter a single point that 8 have stated in your other threads. Namely that PMLN is a ethnic kashmiri muhajir party nawaz had a habit of promoting fellow kashmiris in his party not on merit like ishaq dar who is the one who borrowed a lot of money and bankrupted the nation and ran abroad.

The question is why dosent pakistans media refer to PMLN as a kashmiri muhajir party when for example they would for MQM I have already explained to you why in numerous other post.

 

[ziaulislam]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=351991782734790

@Ladyuk I hope you understand what I am trying to convey here....

@Cliftonite ... I am not against Punjabis as I agree with Aftab Iqbal here that average common Punjabi is as innocent as average dude from Karachi.

We are here talking about ELITES...

The ELITES. How shamelessly despite being in federal government numerous times they just focused on their hometown rather than owning whole country.

Note: This video was posted by some Sindhi nationalist FB page, probably....Ignore what they have written in their post...Just focus on Video content.

I am not Sindhi. Being Urdu chap from Karachi, I have stark differences and disagreement with Sindhis over wadera culture and many issues....Just posted their post here for video content....I DO NOT endorse Sindhi nationalists.

Thank you.

18th amendment has fixed most of these issues
Provinces are having ample funding

But problem is how establishment is still from punjab(judges beaucrats etx) that give undue NRO to their leaders

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

I perfectly understand what your trying to say, you have regurgitated this racist garabage over and over thread after thread. You can not counter a single point that 8 have stated in your other threads. Namely that PMLN is a ethnic kashmiri muhajir party nawaz had a habit of promoting fellow kashmiris in his party not on merit like ishaq dar who is the one who borrowed a lot of money and bankrupted the nation and ran abroad.

The question is why dosent pakistans media refer to PMLN as a kashmiri muhajir party when for example they would for MQM I have already explained to you why in numerous other post.

How the f**k I am anti Punjabi, ma'am?

In Karachi, the least identified people are Punjabis...I never had interaction in Karachi with Punjabis apart from some shopkeepers....Didn't even have Punjabi friends until I landed on this forum and made one.

Here they are @Moonlight @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

You are calling me anti Punjabi when all I am trying to highlight is how one party from Punjab region, after winning Pakistan, just focused on their region and IGNORED other.

How can I become anti Punjabi by highlighting this very basic fact which is also being highlighted by even media persons?

My head is spinning, literally.

18th amendment has fixed most of these issues
Provinces are having ample funding

But problem is how establishment is still from punjab(judges beaucrats etx) that give undue NRO to their leaders

Provinces, especially Sindh should be forced to hold local body elections free and fair. Local bodies should be funded heavily.

Otherwise, half done job is of no use.

I really hope love affair b/w Pindi and PML-N gets over now after this shit show.

 

[ziaulislam]

How the f**k I am anti Punjabi, ma'am?

In Karachi, the least identified people are Punjabis...I never had interaction in Karachi with Punjabis apart from some shopkeepers....Didn't even have Punjabi friends until I landed on this forum and made one.

Here they are @Moonlight @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

You are calling me anti Punjabi when all I am trying to highlight is how one party from Punjab region, after winning Pakistan, just focused on their region and IGNORED other.

How can I become anti Punjabi by highlighting this very basic fact which is also being highlighted by even media persons?

My head is spinning, literally.


Provinces, especially Sindh should be forced to hold local body elections free and fair. Local bodies should be funded heavily.

Otherwise, half done job is of no use.

I really hope love affair b/w Pindi and PML-N gets over now after this shit show.

Better split sindh and punjab both in two..
This can be done by federal govt and sindh if PTI wins it(or if establishment pushes it)

 

[Ladyuk]

How the f**k I am anti Punjabi, ma'am?

In Karachi, the least identified people are Punjabis...I never had interaction in Karachi with Punjabis apart from some shopkeepers....Didn't even have Punjabi friends until I landed on this forum and made one.

Here they are @Moonlight @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

You are calling me anti Punjabi when all I am trying to highlight is how one party from Punjab region, after winning Pakistan, just focused on their region and IGNORED other.

How can I become anti Punjabi by highlighting this very basic fact which is also being highlighted by even media persons?

My head is spinning, literally.


Provinces, especially Sindh should be forced to hold local body elections free and fair. Local bodies should be funded heavily.

Otherwise, half done job is of no use.

I really hope love affair b/w Pindi and PML-N gets over now after this shit show.

At first i thought you were simply a ignorant bigot but now after replying to your many threads and post I am more than convinced you're simply a racist. Your provincial politics are controlled by PPP and have been for a very long time it's got nothing to do with punjabis or anyone else if you dumb bigots insist on setting up ethnic based parties like PPP and MQM and keep voting for them and they don't deliver then may I suggest you stop voting for them.

I mean in the last election had sindh voted for PTI today imran would have been in a better position to help Karachi during the floods for example. You reap what you sow.

Better split sindh and punjab both in two..
This can be done by federal govt and sindh if PTI wins it(or if establishment pushes it)

Even if you split sindh in 2 people will carry on voting for ethnic based party like PPP and MQM who when don't or can't deliver will start blaming punjabis.

 

[mikkix]

At first i thought you were simply a ignorant bigot but now after replying to your many threads and post I am more than convinced you're simply a racist. Your provincial politics are controlled by PPP and have been for a very long time it's got nothing to do with punjabis or anyone else if you dumb bigots insist on setting up ethnic based parties like PPP and MQM and keep voting for them and they don't deliver then may I suggest you stop voting for them.

I mean in the last election had sindh voted for PTI today imran would have been in a better position to help Karachi during the floods for example. You reap what you sow.


Even if you split sindh in 2 people will carry on voting for ethnic based party like PPP and MQM who when don't or can't deliver will start blaming punjabis.

Do we have a chance to have a new political leader from Balochistan or from KPK or from sindh or punjab?
We have 2 leaders Nawaz and Zardari and both of them are ethnic regional bigots and did unjustice to the people.
Splitting sindh will resolve the issue as the city/region will have its own leader and budget irrespective of which party.
Splitting punjab might be good for Saraikis/south punjab.
Secondly mqm or altaf or musharaf delivered in Karachi from 2002 to 2007 whether you liked it or not just like pmln did to Lahore.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

How the f**k I am anti Punjabi, ma'am?

In Karachi, the least identified people are Punjabis...I never had interaction in Karachi with Punjabis apart from some shopkeepers....Didn't even have Punjabi friends until I landed on this forum and made one.

Here they are @Moonlight @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

You are calling me anti Punjabi when all I am trying to highlight is how one party from Punjab region, after winning Pakistan, just focused on their region and IGNORED other.

How can I become anti Punjabi by highlighting this very basic fact which is also being highlighted by even media persons?

My head is spinning, literally.


Provinces, especially Sindh should be forced to hold local body elections free and fair. Local bodies should be funded heavily.

Otherwise, half done job is of no use.

I really hope love affair b/w Pindi and PML-N gets over now after this shit show.

I am a kattar Punjabi from Faisalabad who speaks Theth Punjabi.

@PaklovesTurkiye is a friend and very pro-Punjabi, pro-Pakistani poster.

Please no one spread lies about my friend. He is an extremely decent person.

You are calling me anti Punjabi when all I am trying to highlight is how one party from Punjab region, after winning Pakistan, just focused on their region and IGNORED other.

This is the fact which N league supporters claim makes one anti-Punjabi. Shareef Khandan are originally Kashmiris, but somehow going against them mKes even us Punjabis anti-Punjabi.

Be careful with this one language, ethnic extremist. You should hear what this ID says about Pukhtoons, your jaw will drop.

This forum is being inundated with trolling ever since false-flagger Cliftonite came back. Ethnic extremists are emboldened.

Mods should have perma-banned these racists, pls guys keep reporting.
@waz @LeGenD @AgNoStiC MuSliM

Do something about this Cliftonite please.

He is out of control, and he is not even Pakistani.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

I am a kattar Punjabi from Faisalabad who speaks Theth Punjabi.

@PaklovesTurkiye is a friend and very pro-Punjabi, pro-Pakistani poster.

Please no one spread lies about my friend. He is an extremely decent person.

I am humbled. Thank you, bro.

We seriously need better leaders otherwise we are done for good.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I am humbled. Thank you, bro.

We seriously need better leaders otherwise we are done for good.

What you saying is not any different than what every Pakistani is saying, including Punjabis.

Fact is, all Pakistanis are one and anyone who tries to create divisions among us is an enemy of Pakistan.

Let me know, everyone, if these two get out of control.

It wasn't too long ago that both of them were cooperating against me because of my pro-Pukhtoon and pro-Afghan views.

Our loyalty should be for Islam and Pakistan first.

 

[Ladyuk]

Do we have a chance to have a new political leader from Balochistan or from KPK or from sindh or punjab?
We have 2 leaders Nawaz and Zardari and both of them are ethnic regional bigots and did unjustice to the people.
Splitting sindh will resolve the issue as the city/region will have its own leader and budget irrespective of which party.
Splitting punjab might be good for Saraikis/south punjab.
Secondly mqm or altaf or musharaf delivered in Karachi from 2002 to 2007 whether you liked it or not just like pmln did to Lahore.

As I have stated before splitting sindh won't really resold anything but will give the likes of PPP more ammo to start blackmailing the state with the usual sindhdesh card. That's why I have said that democracy has not and will not sadly work in a country like pakistan. What pakistan needs is a Putin type of leader who is in charge of the country whether a presidential style system or benevolent dictatorship but civilian of course with strong emphasis on law and order. In the absence of this you will carry on having what you have for the last 70 odd years but I don't think pakistan can survive 7 more decades of ethnic based parties coupled with a population that is unwilling to pay tax. And withou tax revenue you can't run a nation without having to go to world bank, IMF etc.

 

[ziaulislam]

At first i thought you were simply a ignorant bigot but now a


Even if you split sindh in 2 people will carry on voting for ethnic based party like PPP and MQM who when don't or can't deliver will start blaming punjabis.

spiting sindh and Punjab will RESOLVE karachi and south Punjab problems

center can always focus on broad polices and let the provinces take the initiative of spending

in long run we need to split KPK just to keep the balance in senate intact

As I have stated before splitting sindh won't really resold anything but will give the likes of PPP more ammo to start blackmailing the state with the usual sindhdesh card. That's why I have said that democracy has not and will not sadly work in a country like pakistan. What pakistan needs is a Putin type of leader who is in charge of the country whether a presidential style system or benevolent dictatorship but civilian of course with strong emphasis on law and order. In the absence of this you will carry on having what you have for the last 70 odd years but I don't think pakistan can survive 7 more decades of ethnic based parties coupled with a population that is unwilling to pay tax. And withou tax revenue you can't run a nation without having to go to world bank, IMF etc.

it will work if we do just two things or rather three

1. bring sane jusiciary ..this will happen if current judiciary decisions are scrutinized, which isnt happening
2. electoral reforms..i think we arent bad here
3. state bank independence..the mother of all problems..pakistan in last 30 years never had an independent state bank, this has caused all of our problems..state bank has to be independent if the country is to survive
you run up with IMF is soley based upon the fact that like dicatotr ships we end up printing notes and cause a boom followed by inevitable burst..

this will NOT happen if state bank is truely independent with interest rates and state bank lending limts

 

[Ladyuk]

spiting sindh and Punjab will RESOLVE karachi and south Punjab problems

center can always focus on broad polices and let the provinces take the initiative of spending

in long run we need to split KPK just to keep the balance in senate intact

it will work if we do just two things or rather three

1. bring sane jusiciary ..this will happen if current judiciary decisions are scrutinized, which isnt happening
2. electoral reforms..i think we arent bad here
3. state bank independence..the mother of all problems..pakistan in last 30 years never had an independent state bank, this has caused all of our problems..state bank has to be independent if the country is to survive
you run up with IMF is soley based upon the fact that like dicatotr ships we end up printing notes and cause a boom followed by inevitable burst..

this will NOT happen if state bank is truely independent with interest rates and state bank lending limts

Zia, I have got to respectfully disagree with you, the judiciary, police , bank reforms etc can only stand a chance of happening if pakistan gets real leadership who does away with this sham of democracy. As I've stated a Putin type of leader in a presidential style system or benevolent dictatorship who has a very firm grip on law and order. Such a individual might stand a chance of carrying out the reforms you mentioned otherwise it's just a repeat of the same in various shades of the past 70 odd years.