Religious parties have links with militants: Bilour

[seekers]

You seems to be inclinded toward shia elements backed by Iran

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Yes, I am Shia, but i don't favor Iranian Gov. policies,specially Ties with Pakistan and India.

I think this is time that We Pakistani should learn after thousands of sacrifices from both shias & Sunnis.We must elaborate all record and background of these terrorist who had mar the Global Peace.
We must have to think this with sincerity and uncommitted insights.
No more mullahs exploitation with Jihad .

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

"Political dynamics in Afghanistan can in no way be compared to that which prevails in Pakistan..."

Why is that? What dynamic ruled Pakistan before Zardari? Was that rule by Musharraf before Zardari by electoral consent? ANY electoral consent?

I don't care to drift too far from the topic and have alluded to the Hezb-i-islami party as led by an enemy of Afghanistan, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, but possessing a member of Karzai's cabinet also and a number of positions within Karzai's government. This, of course, reflects the fracturing of HI back in 1979 that eventually led into three groupings (HIG, HI Maulawi Khalis and, finally, HIA).

"Provide any such links of JUI with those who fight ISAF in Afghanistan...!"

I'd recommend Ahmad Rashid's book Taliban-Militant Islam, Oil And Fundamentalism In Central Asia. You might research that as well.

Here's another that suggest the Madrassas run by JuI are critical to Omar's recruitment of troops-

Mullah Fazl ur Rahman:Taleban Mentor-Mohammad Abbasi Feb. 21, 2010

Oh! And one more-

Hizb-I-Islami Gulbuddin-Institute For The Study Of War

There are, in fact, quite a few allegations suggesting JuI's involvement with a number of these groups but something tells me you'd eithere dismiss them in some cases while supporting such in others. No matter.

Isnt that same Ahmed Rasheed which you loved to bash quite often..Truely astonished that you could even use him to proove your point ..

I am not a supporter of JUI neither wish and desire to see them in power. The point was " Theres no ground upon which Politics in Pakistan can be compared to that in Afghanistan(Such a comparison is baseless) and theres no justification that JUI is supporting those terrorists which fight against ISAF in Afghanistan . Loud mouths exist and in huge numbers too, if theres any evidance of JUI supporting terrorists than they might have been banned and labled as terrorist org by the UNSC much earlier than Lashkar-e-Taiba and JUD . They do praise talibans out in public rallies , but i assume that you know how these elements feed on everybody's favorite Anti American Sentiments . They are more of Politicians than the actual Irhabist Huggers which i quite oftenly read about from you

You can certainly google, can't you? I did and learned a lot while reading. You should too.

Are you a member of JuI, H2O3C4Nitrogen? I'd be interested to know, if not, what political party in Pakistan receives your support. Would you tell me please?

Thanks.

Personally, if you are a US government employ, than i must say that you deserve a raise, because not every body has the guts to work his azz around on that computer chair , tirelessly arguing with no intention of letting go ..

Thanks

 

[pak-marine]

just curious to know these religious parties where do get their money from ? For eg Jamat e islami , No one votes for them .. they hardly have any presence in PA'a or NA's etc they are a total failure who and why would some one invest in some one like them?

 

[S-2]

"Isnt that same Ahmed Rasheed which you loved to bash quite often..Truely astonished that you could even use him to proove your point .."

Well, point made if not proved as you asked for a link and I provided a few. I hope that you read them otherwise my efforts were in vain.

Funny you'd make such a contention about Rashid and myself but not provide an example of my "bash"ing him. Please do so. Remember, though, that disagreeing with some perspective is different than disagreeing with the person's POVs on all matters.

I'll be waiting for your illustration.

"The point was " Theres no ground upon which Politics in Pakistan can be compared to that in Afghanistan..."

You questioned the legitimacy of the Afghan government based upon flawed elections. How those flaws affected the actual outcome wasn't illustrated but I, in return, suggested that your own politics wasn't far removed from lacking legitimacy in the eyes of many. I'm surprised that I need such elaboration with you.

"...theres no justification that JUI is supporting those terrorists which fight against ISAF in Afghanistan..."

If JuI madrassas provide a large number of recruits for the afghan taliban then I'd disagree about your views. Some within the links I've provided tend to suggest exactly that.

"...i assume that you know how these elements feed on everybody's favorite Anti American Sentiments"

While pocketing our money at every turn. That, alone, makes for symmetry with afghan politics btw.

"Personally, if you are a US government employ..."

A friend here mentioned being told I was C.I.A. I don't lie about my status and that's available for all to see in the "About Me" section of my page here.

"...tirelessly arguing with no intention of letting go .."

Many of my friends thought I was well-suited as an attorney. I abhor lawyers and find them slimey. However, as a former military officer I learned to appreciate clear language and precision in presenting views and arguing points of contention. It's a feature lacking in many discussions here and I try my best to not also be guilty of such.

You should as well.

Thanks.