MandarK
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Where did it say that muslim dalit are discriminated???
First thanks for accepting Muslim dalits....now read this
Both the Muslim majority and Hindu minority in Bangladesh have a hierarchical caste system with discrimination, exclusion and practices of untouchability against both Hindu Dalits and Muslim Dalits
The report just mentioned muslim even only 3 time which is taking reference from Dalit solidarity network
The report uses Hindu for 5 times and Dalit for 30 times....what else do you want in a 2 page report??
which even just mentioned muslim dalit only considering they have the same profession like the hindu dalit.
Which part of the report says this?? You are trying to run away from reality be taking a shield of oppressed and highly discriminated BD Minority.
Neither it said dalit practice is used widely nor they discriminated among the muslim.
It is evident from the study that major population of Dalits in both Hindu and Muslim communities face discrimination in almost all spheres of life. Their access to essential amenities is severely limited and discriminated
If you have comprehension capability read the text again what was written there and tell me where did you find dalit persecution ???
Read 2 red quoted parts and tell me what your reading ability is.....
Again a possible dalit himself just feeling high with just seeing the word muslim word once where the dalit word used in a random manner which even did not refer to the fact that muslim dalit are persecuted.
I think you are a Jamati who want BD to reunite with pakistan and that is why you are not accepting reality. Now go ahead abd blame me of being Bombay Dude...I know what happened last time...senior member tag is coll btw
regarding persecution of Muslim dalits....again I am quoting form the report...this time a shorter version...full version is already provided above
Both the Muslim majority and Hindu minority in Bangladesh have a hierarchical caste system with discrimination, exclusion and practices of untouchability
It just mentioned some group of people are termed as dalit based on profession and thats it.
Now quote me from report which asserts your claim. If you can.
But there are no report of discrimination or social boycott that happen in India for the dalit.
let me help you again.....
Dalits also suffer from
numerous diseases, not least because of their lack of access to safe drinking water and
sanitation, and they sometimes face discrimination in their access to public-health
facilities (United Nations Human Rights Council (22 July 2010) Joint report of the
independent expert on the question of human rights and extreme poverty, and the
independent expert on the issue of human rights obligations related to access to safe
drinking water and sanitation: Mission to Bangladesh (A/HRC/15/55),p.7).
You should be ashamed that you follow a rotten religion which promote caste system.
You should be ashamed that so called rotten religion is taking steps to eradicate this problem while your so called Religion of peace is actively adopting it.
Do you still have any shame to ask that??? Google is your friend...
Stats are not your friend. Show it.
Even a class 3 girl is stripped in the class room because of being dalit in India. Can you show any such incident even among the hindus in Bangladesh let alone muslim.
AMAN KAMBLE: Bihar Dalit girl stripped naked in classroom
Are these stats??
Your society doesnt even want to accept the problem...how come people will report it. Muslim and Hindu dalits are so oppressed that they fear for their lives and hence do not report such incidences publicly.
Again you are wrong UNHCR did not make any assumption. They just quoted from an unknown org thats it. Many UN org prepare many such random report or information based on quotation from random NGO or other group which may not have much credibility.
An organization which is quoted in UNHRC report is credible enough to be believed that your words which doesnot find any mention outside PDF leave alone UN.
Not necessarily. As I said earlier many UN report quote from even from unknown NGO. But not necessary mean what an unknown NGO say is 100% correct.
Give some examples. UN is not some rag tag NGO. It has to maintain its credibility and hence every report is credible enough to be accepted irrespective of what citizens of the concerned country think.
I dont see you people questioning UN report about India though....here also we have good report and Bad report
The report that you mentioned is clearly seen someone just googled "dalit bangladesh" and made a report from what ever he got in the 1st page. Though the whole report discussed about hindu dalit only.
The report clearly and specifically mentions about Muslim Dalits. Read the red parts quoted above again.
Yes a lot of hindus have been converted to Islam over the last couple of decades in Bangladesh including many hindu dalit as well. It is them who may still practice the dalit system only not any by born muslim.
A contradictory statement. First you refused to accept that Dalits exist in Muslims and now it is all because of Hindu Converts.....All problem of BD is because of India or Hindus
I just cant imagine the pain of BD Hindus when they see posts like this. They are 3rd class citizens in their own country.
For your info the number of hindu have been increased from 9 million in 1971 to 15 million now... So where is the decline???
Decline with respect to total population.
Their percentage mainly decreased because of low birth rate and conversion.
Low birth rate and forced conversion.
It is true some preferred to go to bharat mata because their were brain washed by the indian agent and their relatives in India about milk and honey and heaven like life in India.
And that is the reason why every BD who got killed by BSF happened to be a Muslim??
That is not a policy paper by UNHCR but a random information on dalit of Bangladesh.
And it does mention about sorry state of Muslim Dalits in BD.
There are no point of shock. Even that report just mentioned the muslim dalit based on profession which hindus considered as dalit.
Quote me the para....I quoted several for you in RED.
Go and show us any incident where dalits are persecuted let alone muslim dalit like that in India. I can show you 1000 of such incident but you can not.
Report specifically mentions about Muslims Dalit discrimination.....although I have quoted many times, I will do it again...
Dalits also suffer from
numerous diseases, not least because of their lack of access to safe drinking water and
sanitation, and they sometimes face discrimination in their access to public-health
facilities (United Nations Human Rights Council (22 July 2010) Joint report of the
independent expert on the question of human rights and extreme poverty, and the
independent expert on the issue of human rights obligations related to access to safe
drinking water and sanitation: Mission to Bangladesh (A/HRC/15/55),p.7).
Both the Muslim majority and Hindu minority in Bangladesh have a hierarchical caste system with discrimination, exclusion and practices of untouchability against both Hindu Dalits and Muslim Dalits
It is evident from the study that major population of Dalits in both Hindu and Muslim communities face discrimination in almost all spheres of life. Their access to essential amenities is severely limited and discriminated
Yes it is not. But you require it not us.
The report also emphasises on the need for having CONSTITUTIONAL MEASURES. Find out...if cant let me know.
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where you have heard the term muslim dalit are persecuted Even your report did not mention that.
It is evident from the study that major population of Dalits in both Hindu and Muslim communities face discrimination in almost all spheres of life. Their access to essential amenities is severely limited and discriminated
Both the Muslim majority and Hindu minority in Bangladesh have a hierarchical caste system with discrimination, exclusion and practices of untouchability against both Hindu Dalits and Muslim Dalits
You are again wrong. UNHCR did not provide anything. They just quoted from International Dalot Solidarity Network.
Still credible than some random BD making some posts on PDF.
If they would be so certain they would publish themselves but would not quote from others. Anyway the following video about dalits on India is really informative.
very informative. recognizing the problem is the first step toward its solution. Denying it is the step towards its.........
[/quote]The following report is enough to show what is the shocking state of the dalits in India.
Wrong number call rings social boycott of 50 dalit families - Times Of India
Isolated incidence which are on decline....but BD society is yet to accpet the reality and to take constitutional measures to protect these Dalit Muslims.