atatwolf
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I don't know how things go on Holland but here in Turkey i have never met anybody not proud of Ottomans. Ottoman Empire was the Pinnacle of the Turkish civilization, ruled over 3 continents, Super-power of it's time.
What did I say? I said Ottomans have their place in our history, BUT we shouldn't idolize them but be better than them. What is wrong with that? Look at AKP, they act like Ottoman Sultans:
Spending money on luxery, going abroad, hookers and what not
And letting Turkish people pay and then trying to abolish Turkish Republic.
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