Recent Sino-Indian border conflict

[Areesh]

As per Indian media, India has not only retreated from Doklam but from area close to it too.

https://twitter.com/x/status/918377660098551808

 

[Martian2]

I think there are 1,000 Chinese troops in Doklam.

If someone shoots, a full blown war will result.

You get one guess which country wins in a war.

Withdrawing Indian troops to prevent an accidental shooting war is logical and smart.

 

[Windjammer]

That kick proved very effective and showing results now. !!

 

[ashok321]

India knew that China would build the road no matter what.
Hence (not to repeat the same standoff again), Coward Modi withdraws...

So much for nationalism or 56" chest.

So why did he bring the armored bulldozers in the first place then?

 

[randomradio]

The Chinese have agreed to our demands, so there is no need for Indian troops to continue operating in Bhutanese territory. The Bhutanese will take over instead.

 

[Cyberian]

India = Republic of Cowards

 

[Figaro]

The Chinese have agreed to our demands, so there is no need for Indian troops to continue operating in Bhutanese territory. The Bhutanese will take over instead.

They’ve agreed to your territorial demands so much that there are still 1000 Chinese soldiers in Doklam who are constructing the road as we speak. Passing the burden to Bhutan is indicative of India’s weak position ... why transfer the work to a weaker party who shows no interest for India’s claims ...

 

[randomradio]

They’ve agreed to your territorial demands so much that there are still 1000 Chinese soldiers in Doklam who are constructing the road as we speak. Passing the burden to Bhutan is indicative of India’s weak position ... why transfer the work to a weaker party who shows no interest for India’s claims ...

They are not. They are constructing the road in territory that is not disputed. It's 250m away from the disputed area.

As for transferring the area to Bhutan, it is Bhutan's territory. India never had a presence there. After China trespassed, India also trespassed on Bhutanese invitation. Now, since the situation has been resolved, there is no need for India to remain there. Basically, we asked for status quo, and since status quo has been achieved, we need to do our part and withdraw back into Indian territory.

China may have 1000 troops there, but India has 90000 in the area.

 

[SingaporeGuy]

They are not. They are constructing the road in territory that is not disputed. It's 250m away from the disputed area.

As for transferring the area to Bhutan, it is Bhutan's territory. India never had a presence there. After China trespassed, India also trespassed on Bhutanese invitation. Now, since the situation has been resolved, there is no need for India to remain there. Basically, we asked for status quo, and since status quo has been achieved, we need to do our part and withdraw back into Indian territory.

China may have 1000 troops there, but India has 90000 in the area.

its easy to talk...where is the proof brudder?

 

[randomradio]

its easy to talk...where is the proof brudder?

Why else would Indian troops leave? The territory India had placed troops in was disputed between China and Bhutan. So Bhutanese withdrew and requested India to take over those positions. With the situation resolved, we can leave. This is common sense.

China is building roads in undisputed Chinese territory. You can build anything you want in your territory, simply not in disputed territory.

 

[samsara]

They’ve agreed to your territorial demands so much that there are still 1000 Chinese soldiers in Doklam who are constructing the road as we speak. Passing the burden to Bhutan is indicative of India’s weak position ... why transfer the work to a weaker party who shows no interest for India’s claims ...

CORRECTION: Passing back the burden to Bhutan to take care its own territorial claim showing the responsible and mindful act of Delhi in the 21st century, the modern nation-state era post WW2... namely to respect the sovereignty of the tiny Himalayan Buddhist Kingdom, Bhutan (of around 800,000 population), and to not treat that landlocked nation as a suzerainty. Unlike the Sikkim Kingdom, which was later swallowed by Delhi in 1975, Bhutan is no longer a suzerainty of India. Read further this suzerainty issue here.

In the absence of any interference from Delhi, China and Bhutan should achieve the final and permanent amicable solution to the lingering territorial issues as well as establishing diplomatic relationship (mind every one that Bhutan has established its diplomatic relationship with mere four countries, something quite abnormal... even the isolationist and Stalinist nation, North Korea, has diplomatic relationship with many nations) and developing mutually beneficial close economic cooperation between the two neighbouring nations shortly... in a matter of a year or two. It's illogical to think that the Bhutan does not want to enjoy the economic development, closer relationship to also enjoy the fruit of China's economic might and more and better transportation accesses linked to the Tibetan Plateau for goods transportation and economic development opportunities to its still lacklustre economy (which undergoes the regular yearly national budget deficit over many years, so being bankrolled by Delhi to patch the hole steadily; hence, be heavily indebted to Delhi and be hooked accordingly... but China has the resource to bail Thimphu out of that pile of debt) and so forth... indeed Bhutan is quite eager to be linked by the Chinese railway... and in fact the biggest, the existential fear of Bhutan is being put under "Sikkimization" by Delhi!

Nonetheless time will side with China, Bhutan simply cannot ignore to have a closer relationship with its giant neighbour, and engaging in a more balance relationship between Thimphu - Delhi and Thimphu - Beijing serves the best the Bhutanese own interests in the long run. This article by SCMP gives a good insight what's faced by the tiny kingdom.

 

[Shahzaz ud din]

Exhibition on Xi Jinping’s 5 years shows China’s military might, skips India

Published October 13, 2017 SOURCE: INDIA TODAY The Chinese Communist Party (CPC) has showcased its military modernisation as a key achievement of Xi Jinping’s first five-year-term, which ends on October 18, in an official exhibition unveiled in Beijing. The exhibition, organised by the CPC Central Committee, is aimed at showing the Chinese public Xi’s “major achievements” since he took over as general secretary in November 2012, and is significant in reflecting what the leadership saw as key priorities. The sprawling exhibition in Beijing’s massive Soviet-style exhibition centre hailed Xi’s “major country diplomacy”, and the section of the exhibition on diplomatic achievements showed his meetings with U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. It also specifically mentioned that China “has built an all-weather strategic partnership with Pakistan”, as it showed a photograph of Politburo Standing Committee Yu Zhengsheng visiting Pakistan in April and meeting with Raza Rabbani, Chairman of the Pakistani Senate. India wasn’t mentioned in the context of China’s “major country diplomacy”, barring a photograph of Prime Minister Modi and other BRICS leaders attending the Xiamen summit in September. The only other mention of India was a photograph showing a delegation of Indian youths before their visit to China in 2014. One of the exhibition’s largest sections showcased the People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) modernisation over the past five years, highlighting China’s first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, its fifth-generation stealth fighter, and the opening of the first Chinese overseas military base in Djibouti. “We are building a modern military capable of winning battles”, a guide told a group of diplomats and reporters on Friday. “Under Chairman Xi, we have undertaken comprehensive and revolutionary reforms of the military.” CHINA TO FIRMLY DEFEND ITS SOVEREIGNTY The message to the public was that China would firmly defend its sovereignty. The exhibition also underlined China’s island-building and steps to assert its claims over the disputed South China Sea. Of border areas, one photograph showed a unit of the newly-setup PLA Rocket Force “practicing a manoeuver drill in a high-altitude area”. It also showed how Xi has disciplined the army with a “mass line campaign”. One photograph showed soldiers of the Xinjiang theater command, which borders India, speaking with their commander while patrolling. The other exhibits showed China’s technological progress during the past five years, highlighting its new 350 km/h high-speed trains, its deep sea submersible as well as recent advancements in using artificial intelligence. Xi’s sweeping corruption crackdown was also highlighted, with photographs of key top leaders ensnared in the corruption crackdown including former security czar Zhou Yongkang, Chongqing party boss Bo Xilai, and former PLA General Xu Caihou and Guo Boxiong. The exhibition even displayed letters reportedly written by caught officials showing their repentance. Xi Jinping dominated the exhibits, with the other leaders, including Premier Li Keqiang, only figuring in the margins in photographs where the entire leadership was shown. Photographs and videos showed Xi as “a man of the people”. “Xi has proven to be a charismatic leader, who cares about the well-being of Chinese people”, the tour guide told visitors.

idrw.org .Read more at India No 1 Defence News Website http://idrw.org/exhibition-on-xi-ji...hinas-military-might-skips-india/#more-150795 .

 

[ito]

I don't care whether China takes India a threat or all together ignore India. In an ideal situation, I would like good relations with China. But if China cast any eye on India's or its allies territory be ready for the consequences.

 

[rambro]

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They seem to want attention from others but not getting it hence holding grudge and led to hostile attitude.

Can't blame really as they haven't get over the reality that how can china who were once in the same position as india took off wonderfully and being quiet while at it.

 

[Joe Shearer]

They seem to want attention from others but not getting it hence holding grudge and led to hostile attitude.

Can't blame really as they haven't get over the reality that how can china who were once in the same position as india took off wonderfully and being quiet while at it.

I don't know about the rest of your analysis, but China doesn't have to open its mouth with fanboys like you around.