Recent Sino-Indian border conflict

[American Pakistani]

I made no prediction, but the actual fact.

China's first half in 2017 is over 10% than the first half in 2016 in the USD rate, and China's in 2016 was 11.2 trillion in the USD, so China's 2017 GDP is definitely over 12 trillion in the USD. China's 2015/2016 GDP in the USD was growing less than the US because of the RMB depreciation, but this temporary trend will be removed by 2017.



China's road infrastructural is top notch in the world in both highway and railway, so it will be quite easy for China to mobilize all the troops to the western border.

I know. I was pointing out at the advantage China got in terms of having almost entire population in the far east whereas india's population is in the north. In case of war Chinese population will be safe in far east, can't say the same for india.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I know. I was pointing out at the advantage China got in terms of having almost entire population in the far east whereas india's population is in the north. In case of war Chinese population will be safe in far east, can't say the same for india.

India doesn't have the reliable ICBM and tremendous firepower like China. Thus, they cannot offset this geographical disadvantage.

 

[American Pakistani]

India doesn't have the reliable ICBM and tremendous firepower like China. Thus, they cannot offset this geographical disadvantage.

In the event of war China should break india's chicken's neck which is few km's from this current skirmish.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

In the event of war China should break india's chicken's neck which is few km's from this current skirmish.

Pakistan is now indeed accommodating China's strategic plan.

 

[F-22Raptor]

I made no prediction, but the actual fact.

China's first half in 2017 is over 10% than the first half in 2016 in the USD rate, and China's in 2016 was 11.2 trillion in the USD, so China's 2017 GDP is definitely over 12 trillion in the USD. China's 2015/2016 GDP in the USD was growing less than the US because of the RMB depreciation, but this temporary trend will be removed by 2017.



China's road infrastructural is top notch in the world in both highway and railway, so it will be quite easy for China to mobilize all the troops to the western border.

US GDP should end up around $19.5 trillion for 2017. We will see what the final numbers are, but there is a decent chance China will have gained little, if any, on the US economy in 2017.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

US GDP should end up around $19.5 trillion for 2017. We will see what the final numbers are, but there is a decent chance China will have gained little, if any, on the US economy in 2017.

In order to grow 19.5 trillion by 2017, you need to achieve an annual growth of 5%.

Even Trump's own treasury secretary did admit that it will probably need another 2 years to reach an annual growth of 3%.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/01/trea...probably-take-2-years-to-get-to-3-growth.html

 

[F-22Raptor]

In order to grow 19.5 trillion by 2017, you need to achieve an annual growth of 5%.

Even Trump's own treasury secretary did admit that it will probably need another 2 years to reach an annual growth of 3%.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/01/trea...probably-take-2-years-to-get-to-3-growth.html

Current US GDP after the Q4 and Q1 revisions is $19 trillion. Q2 advance estimate is scheduled for this Friday.

The rough $19.5 trillion estimate is from IMF's April economic estimate here:

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/f...s=NGDP,NGDPD,NGDP_D&grp=0&a=&pr1.x=71&pr1.y=6

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Current US GDP after the Q4 and Q1 revisions is $19 trillion. Q2 advance estimate is scheduled for this Friday.

The rough $19.5 trillion estimate is from IMF's April economic estimate here:

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2017/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?sy=2015&ey=2022&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=111&s=NGDP,NGDPD,NGDP_D&grp=0&a=&pr1.x=71&pr1.y=6

IMF often got habit to overestimate the US GDP, since it is part of the US rule. I've been followed this by many years. China didn't use the SNA2008 yet, and without the SNA2008, the current US nominal GDP will be at least 1 trillion less.

We will to see the official figure.

 

[52051]

The US know they have no chance against a military competition with China, China now only use a tiny finger in military building-up and yet the US already feel the heat and can barely keep up with China.

And the US dollar is highly overestimated, China produce half of the world's heavy industrial output, including steel, machineary and toolings etc, around 6-10X of that of the US.

And China's military spending is only 1/4 of the US measured by US dollar, yet China have already produced much more warships and fighters than the US, this just show you how much water in the US dollar.

No wonder a brand new 055 which is far far superior to any ddg US have, only cost 0.83 billion USD in China, whilst the repair of the cargo-striked stone-age PESA DDG cost 1 billion in the US, this just give you the idea about how huge the gap between the real purchasing power.

Thats the exact reason the US fear an arms race with China, they know they will fall short, and China become more and more welcome an arms race, and they are more open to show off their fancy new war machines to invite the US to enter this race to its own bankruptcy.

Judging by the domestic chaos and China's arms race bait, I think the US will be lucky to be around for another decade or two, you know, in 1980 few people would know the soviet would collapse in 10 years, so do the US this time.

Now it is the critical moment for China to surpass the US in both GDP and military technology, and China doesn't want a setback that caused by India.

And the US is wishing to push India ahead to cause this setback for China.

I dont agree with you here:

A war between China and india will only make China rise more rapidly.

We all know the US wont sit still to wait for China to replace them, they will throw all their pet dogs to try to hurdle China.

But after crushed india and their crap west weapons, the world will have a nice taste of today's China military might and China's strong will/commitment to defend her national interests, and a great brand-enhancement of China and her military hardware for exportation. And the US will not be able to order their dogs to bite China since even the dogs are afraid of being brutally killed, so instead China's rise will be accrelated.

 

[karl wang]

The US know they have no chance against a military competition with China, China now only use a tiny finger in military building-up and yet the US already feel the heat and can barely keep up with China.

And the US dollar is highly overestimated, China produce half of the world's heavy industrial output, including steel, machineary and toolings etc, around 6-10X of that of the US.

And China's military spending is only 1/4 of the US measured by US dollar, yet China have already produced much more warships and fighters than the US, this just show you how much water in the US dollar.

No wonder a brand new 055 which is far far superior to any ddg US have, only cost 0.83 billion USD in China, whilst the repair of the cargo-striked stone-age PESA DDG cost 1 billion in the US, this just give you the idea about how huge the gap between the real purchasing power.

Thats the exact reason the US fear an arms race with China, they know they will fall short, and China become more and more welcome an arms race, and they are more open to show off their fancy new war machines to invite the US to enter this race to its own bankruptcy.

Judging by the domestic chaos and China's arms race bait, I think the US will be lucky to be around for another decade or two, you know, in 1980 few people would know the soviet would collapse in 10 years, so do the US this time.



I dont agree with you here:

A war between China and india will only make China rise more rapidly.

We all know the US wont sit still to wait for China to replace them, they will throw all their pet dogs to try to hurdle China.

But after crushed india and their crap west weapons, the world will have a nice taste of today's China military might and China's strong will/commitment to defend her national interests, and a great brand-enhancement of China and her military hardware for exportation. And the US will not be able to order their dogs to bite China since even the dogs are afraid of being brutally killed, so instead China's rise will be accrelated.

Agree. Those pet dogs will understand the danger, and refuse to follow US's steps for his own sake. Somehow it will cut down our future cost. We need a right dog to start the war. Not that small, not that weak, not that smart.

 

[Han Patriot]

The US know they have no chance against a military competition with China, China now only use a tiny finger in military building-up and yet the US already feel the heat and can barely keep up with China.

And the US dollar is highly overestimated, China produce half of the world's heavy industrial output, including steel, machineary and toolings etc, around 6-10X of that of the US.

And China's military spending is only 1/4 of the US measured by US dollar, yet China have already produced much more warships and fighters than the US, this just show you how much water in the US dollar.

No wonder a brand new 055 which is far far superior to any ddg US have, only cost 0.83 billion USD in China, whilst the repair of the cargo-striked stone-age PESA DDG cost 1 billion in the US, this just give you the idea about how huge the gap between the real purchasing power.

Thats the exact reason the US fear an arms race with China, they know they will fall short, and China become more and more welcome an arms race, and they are more open to show off their fancy new war machines to invite the US to enter this race to its own bankruptcy.

Judging by the domestic chaos and China's arms race bait, I think the US will be lucky to be around for another decade or two, you know, in 1980 few people would know the soviet would collapse in 10 years, so do the US this time.



I dont agree with you here:

A war between China and india will only make China rise more rapidly.

We all know the US wont sit still to wait for China to replace them, they will throw all their pet dogs to try to hurdle China.

But after crushed india and their crap west weapons, the world will have a nice taste of today's China military might and China's strong will/commitment to defend her national interests, and a great brand-enhancement of China and her military hardware for exportation. And the US will not be able to order their dogs to bite China since even the dogs are afraid of being brutally killed, so instead China's rise will be accrelated.

It's not good to underestimate US weapons, those are tried and tested but I do agree China has the best bang for the dollar. Our state of the art ships easily cost 50% less, look at the speed and funding we used to create 2 stealth fighters, America would have taken at least 15 years to design and produce such an aircraft at double the cost. Corruption in the US MIC is infamous.

 

[F-22Raptor]

IMF often got habit to overestimate the US GDP, since it is part of the US rule. I've been followed this by many years. China didn't use the SNA2008 yet, and without the SNA2008, the current US nominal GDP will be at least 1 trillion less.

We will to see the official figure.

US GDP grew by 2.6% in Q2 under the first estimate. Along with updated revisions from the 2014-2017 time period, current overall US GDP stands at $19.226 trillion after the second quarter.

 

[azesus]

If using the newest SNA2016 standards of which the EU about to use, China's nominal GDP is $15 Trillion Dollars. PPP GDP is roughly $29.5 Trillion. If China count their real estate sector the same way USA does, its nominal GDP would be $19 Trillion nearly the same as USA with PPP GDP at $37 Trillion. Also many if not most small and medium business and personnel income vastly under report their income to avoid tax, so the nominal GDP is actually much higher consider China is mostly dominated by small and medium business. Also consider the PPP cost living sample is done in major expansive cities, consider the fact in small towns the cost living is still even cheaper so the true PPP GDP is still greater. Also most USA GDP is inflated by the fact the Dollar is overvalued and 70% USA GDP is concentrated in virtual economy like finance insurance and real estate and litigation and medical costs. Medical sector alone is like 18% of USA GDP. Most China's GDP is in manufacturing hence the famous made in China. What will the USA fight China with stock papers and medical insurance bills and ridiculous housing rents and sue China how USA is such crybaby that China doesn't play by the books? hahaha

What does USA "grow" their GDP, by charging their bullshit medical insurance bill and housing rents even higher even highly paid Google engineer paid $2000 a month to just rent a garage and live in it? and then they end up hate each other over these bullshit so they sue each other. Quantitative Easing over printing fake money and flooding stock market and cooking up housing prices. Iphone is just same old bull crap like those Air Jordan sneakers 1/10 cost go to real content the rest goes to marketing hype brainwashing fools thinking it will make their dick bigger.

 

[Ajaxpaul]

After 15 days and 6 pages i hope it reached south Tibet.

 

[name]

Lovely kids. They know the PLA will protect them for everything.


Agree. It is just a British empire's evil heritage to hurt the world.

Yes.
exactly.