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REARMING of JAPAN

Enjoy or not, is that your problem?

I know here is just an forum, we don't need to win in this forum, we need to fight you in real world. For now, I just want to enjoy here with your people, but I would enjoy much more when your people become food for fish.

And FYI, Jap weapons maybe more advanced than us, but history teaches us that strategy and number are much more important. Even in the old day Jap were famous with their techs like samurai sword, but we always were the no.1 empire, and the Viet were always died because of us. Just enjoy the history to repeat itself, dead meats.
Sorry, but Japan's military today is nowhere near the projection capabilities and technologies as the Chinese military.
 
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Japan should give up its pacifist stance, I really need to see those transformers/robot soldiers before I hit the dust.

With all seriousness Japan is one of the most technologically advanced nation in the world if they give proper resource and importance to military equipment and development I am sure they will be more than able to match the level of technology US has developed and is developing.
 
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It doesn't need to because its practically next door.

Maybe the Chinese member think the japanese can't sail about 250 nautical mile to China to project their power........

Believe or not, but in general the Vietnamese like the Chinese in Taiwan. Face the fact: there are more than 200,000 Vietnamese living in Taiwan. Taiwan itself is one of the top 10 investors in Vietnam. As far as I know, besides the small islands dispute in the SCS, there is no conflict in the relationship between two countries, unlike China. Taiwan even grants visafree travel to Vietnamese under circumstances.

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Viet, If i were you, i will stop debating with the Chinese about another country's affair.

If Vietnam wanted to form an anti-China league, what is in China power to stop them? If Japan should re militarize again and change the constitution, who is China to stop them?? Debating with Chinese will just further go out of bound with the discussion. You should let them into their own dream that a Alliance of Japan, Philippine and Vietnam will not be fruitful and every contention to China will be crushed. in their eyes, there are only Chinese Trade but any other country can be ignored.

back to topic. I guess the most direct way is to Philippine provide funding to japanese Defence industry, something like a F-35 or PAK-FA Program, they should invent stuff together and share the technological fruit.

Another thing they should do is to allow more Japanese Company (Defense or otherwise) to invest in Philippine. Then they can build up their Technology base and whether or not should they be used in Defense technology, it would be a win win situation for both Japan and Philippine.

The same can be said with Vietnam, just replace everything i say above from Philippine to Vietnam.

Question: What do you think is the right level of armament should japanese expand their arsenal??

Here is a brief introduction of Japan Self Defence Force (JSDF) in 2011

Total number of Troop : Approx 300,000 (~149,000 Ground Troop, ~ 45,000 Sailor, ~ 45,000 airmen + ~ 55,000 reservist) - Maximum 300,000 Troop
Total population : ~ 130 millions (1 troop for ever 434 citizen)
Total Military Expenditure : 58 millions (0.9% GDP maximum 1.0% GDP)

Number of Ground Division : 5 Armies + 1 Special Force Regiment + 1 Headquarter with ~ 900 tanks, 100 IFV
Number of naval Force : 5 Naval District, 2 LHD, about 10 DDG 20 FFG and about 10 auxillery Frigate, ~ 15 Submarine
Number of aircraft operate : 9 Air Operation Command, operate about 14 Airfield 802 operational aircraft, ~400 fighter/attack
Air Dominance weapon : F-15J (~ 200)
Air Attack weapon : F-2 (~100)
AWACS : E-767 (4), E-2C (13)
Airlift Command : 15 C-130J
Airforce reserve weapon : F-4EJ,RF-4EJ (~ 90)

In my opinon. Troop level need to raise to 500,000 (1 : 260), number of aircraft need to raise to 1200 with over 600 combat aircraft. THey should increase the production of F-2 to about 250, require another 200 F-15C and upgrade the F-4 to either F-16 multirole or FA/18E/F for the growler capability. They should have 10 more destroyer, about 20 more fast frigate and more LSD as wel las command ship, currently they have 2 command ship serving the 5 Naval command.......

That would be an up todate defense force.
 
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sure,debating is not your american style..
bombing is more common used methord..
 
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whenever you want to conque a country ,you throw bombs there.
whenever we want to get reunification ,you do everything to obstruct
 
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EDITORIAL: Hawkish approach won't help


One major issue in the campaign for the Dec. 16 Lower House election is the diplomatic dispute with China over the Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea. Some politicians and others on the Japanese side are taking a hawkish stance, but such an approach will only harden attitudes on the Chinese side, making it more difficult to resolve the issue. In such difficult diplomatic circumstances, it is all the more important to act in a coolheaded manner and to demonstrate ingenuity.

Conspicuous in the current election campaign is the hawkish approach of the Liberal Democratic Party, which is calling for revising the war-renouncing Article 9 of the Constitution to create the National Defense Force and for exercising the right to collective self-defense. Some of the so-called third pole forces, including the Japan Restoration Party, take a similar stance.

The approach of these parties would only serve to heighten bilateral tensions, perhaps even to the point of spurring an arms race, which would weaken Japan's security and deepen suspicion in the international community over Tokyo's intentions in East Asia.

When it comes to issues involving diplomacy and national security, the country that reacts emotionally and loses its head eventually suffers for it and the country that behaves with flexibility on the basis of realistic calculations gains the advantage.

In its election pledge, the LDP says that it will protect the nation's sovereignty, territories and territorial waters "with firm resolution," and will improve and expand the personnel, equipment and budget of the Japan Coast Guard. It also says that it will strengthen effective control over the Senkaku Islands and protect the islands and the territorial waters around them "with firm resolution."

Such wording can arouse nationalistic emotions in people, leading them to react irrationally to dispute over the Senkaku Islands and other territories.

The LDP also calls for stationing public servants on the Senkakus and establishing facilities there for fishing boats. Such measures would be taken by China as a provocation and would only further chill relations between Japan and China. One must ask whether the LDP has developed contingency plans to calm the situation if tensions over the Senkaku Islands heighten following the implementation of its recommended policies, or whether it would simply "wing it" in such a situation.

The Democratic Party of Japan is taking a more coolheaded approach to the territorial dispute than the LDP. It advocates strengthening defense power under the principle of "defense-only defense," calls for managing and controlling the Senkaku Islands in a tranquil and stable manner, and turning the East China Sea into a sea of "peace, friendship and cooperation."

Before casting their ballots, voters should study each party's foreign policy and national security proposals, as well as their stances on domestic issues such as taxation, social welfare and nuclear power generation. Given the gravity of the issues facing the nation, voters must choose their next leaders with utmost care

Hawkish approach won't help | The Japan Times Online
 
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whenever you want to conque a country ,you throw bombs there.
whenever we want to get reunification ,you do everything to obstruct

sure,debating is not your american style..
bombing is more common used methord..

Relax i am not bombing your home or strafing your school.

SIt back and enjoy :)
 
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Japan should give up its pacifist stance, I really need to see those transformers/robot soldiers before I hit the dust.

With all seriousness Japan is one of the most technologically advanced nation in the world if they give proper resource and importance to military equipment and development I am sure they will be more than able to match the level of technology US has developed and is developing.

You mean Gundam??

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Yeah, Japan have an technological edge, it's the US policy they cannot transfer any of those nor participate in any international defence project. This is quite funny actually, if Japan were allowed to join the F-35 program, they would significantly lower the cost of the fighter, now Japan just buying it, not developing it.

US should allow Technological Transfer Right and International Participation to the Japanese, it benefits them as well.
 
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A common enemy will unite even the oldest of foes. Japan is a peaceful nation so far but somebody woke them up. This should be a signal to China that they are not dealing with this issue in a smart way.
 
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You mean Gundam??

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Yeah, Japan have an technological edge, it's the US policy they cannot transfer any of those nor participate in any international defence project. This is quite funny actually, if Japan were allowed to join the F-35 program, they would significantly lower the cost of the fighter, now Japan just buying it, not developing it.

US should allow Technological Transfer Right and International Participation to the Japanese, it benefits them as well.

I think he meant these :enjoy:
Red Alert 3 - Japanese Invasion HD - YouTube

But what I want to see from Japan is this.

Kuratas, the 13-foot mech: unleashes your inner Ripley, costs $1.35 million (video)

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Suidobashi Heavy Industries has put the finishing touches to its latest project, the 4.4-ton Kuratas. Mobile suit obsessives around the world can thank artist Kogoro Kurata and robotics expert Wataru Yoshizaki for the robot frame, which has space to house a pilot inside. The mech's touchscreen UI even includes a Kinect-based movement interface and the shudder-inducing "smile-activated" twin BB gatling guns. You can customize your own diesel-powered beast in the dystopian gang colors of your choosing, but be advised: the $1.35 million price tag doesn't include further customization options like a faux leather interior, cup holder or phone cubby. The Kuratas does, however, come with the ability to make phone calls direct from the cockpit, so you can tell your enemies that you're coming for them.

人型四脚エンジン駆動陸戦型巨大ãƒ*ボ「クラタス」、ついにお披露目 - YouTube

HOW TO RIDE KURATAS - Suidobashi heavy industry - YouTube

Imagine the possibilities :woot: We can finally reduce or finally put an end to soldiers patrolling in an Urban deathtrap :yahoo: Cause frankly lot of the boys in many Milforumer think that kind of mission is pretty much a Suicide.
 
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China provoking rise of Japan's hawks

Isaac Newton wasn't thinking about Chinese assertiveness when he wrote his famous third law of physics - that to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. But it does seem to be at work in the power politics of the Asia-Pacific region. In 2010, a rising China decided to push with new assertiveness its claims to territories claimed by other countries. And the other great powers of the region are starting to push back. First it was the US. President Barack Obama's ''pivot'' to Asia was a direct push back against China. Now Japan is showing some signs of pushing back, too. The announcement that Japan's two most popular politicians are joining forces to create a new political party is a potential turning point in the postwar history of the Asia-Pacific region.

Shintaro Ishihara, a long-serving governor of Tokyo, stood down from his post to forge a ''third force'' in Japanese politics in partnership with the mayor of Osaka, Toru Hashimoto. The creation of their Japan Restoration Party was announced 10 days ago. Their stated aim? ''If Japan keeps going like this, it will sink into a pit and die,'' Ishihara said. He promises the revival of an economy that has been stagnant for two decades and the recovery of national pride. The choice of the word ''restoration'' is very deliberate - a reference to the Meiji Restoration, which transformed Japan from a backward feudal state into a modern Westernised power. Both men are anti-China hawks and controversial nationalists who advocate that Japan abandon its postwar ''peace constitution'' and conduct a major rearming. Not that Japan is unarmed. Despite the wording of its US-imposed constitution renouncing the right to maintain any armed forces whatsoever, and despite a relatively small defence budget, Japan already has the world's fourth-biggest navy and top-tier access to US military technology.

In recent years, Ishihara and Hashimoto have expressed support for Japan to arm itself with nuclear weapons, an alarming prospect for many Japanese and for some of its neighbours. A leading South Korean daily, The Dong-A Ilbo, expressed alarm at their ''right-wing extremist ideology''. Seoul has reason to worry. South Korea has its own territorial dispute with Japan and a bitter history of Japanese invasion and occupation. Ishihara, in particular, is spoiling for a fight with China. The 80-year-old former novelist, one of Japan's most notorious neo-nationalists, in 2010 likened China's tactics in pressuring Tokyo over a territorial dispute to mafia thuggery. When Beijing tightened its exports to Japan of rare earths, essential in the manufacture of electronic components, Ishihara said: ''What China is doing is very similar to what organised crime groups do to expand their turf.''

He despises any Japanese prime ministers who have ever made any concessions to Beijing. ''Japan could become the sixth star on China's national flag'' unless it stood up to Beijing, he has said. He has argued that Japan ''should not hesitate'' to go to war against China. And this year, in the most antagonistic move against China by any Japanese officeholder in modern times, Ishihara sought to buy, in the name of the Tokyo regional government, a group of islands claimed by China. Ishihara proposed to build on them.The so-called islands are really a useless clutch of eight large uninhabited rocks. They're known as the Senkaku Islands in Japan and the Diaoyu in China. Their value lies in the fact that their owner can claim maritime sovereignty and economic rights to seabed resources, which apparently includes oil.The islands were owned by a private Japanese citizen; Ishihara moved to buy them and develop them. It was an act that had no legitimate purpose. It was designed as pure provocation of Beijing. To head him off, the Japanese national government stepped in and acquired the islands. Its intention was to neutralise Ishihara. The government of the Prime Minister, Yoshihiko Noda, said it has no plans to develop them. Ishihara had been thwarted. But by nationalising the islands, Japan inadvertently sent China's government - and its people - into a rage. This was the source of the most recent flare-up that has damaged the economies of both countries.

What are the prospects of the Japan Restoration Party? Japan is heading to a snap election on December 16. A Kyodo News poll two days ago ranked the party second, behind the opposition Liberal Democrats but ahead of the ruling Democratic Party. It cannot hope to form a government by itself - the party is so new it has had scant time to organise. It has said it will field candidates for only half the directly elected seats. Yet with no party likely to be able to form a majority, this could well be enough to make the Japan Restoration Party a key member of a coalition government. Ishihara's latest provocation of China was his proposed alliance between Japan and two of the countries most active in territorial disputes with China, Vietnam and the Philippines. He proposed keeping the US alliance as well: ''But in regard to the encroachment by China on territorial waters, Japan shares common issues with Vietnam and the Philippines and could form an alliance with these nations on this matter.'' Hashimoto and Ishihara are taking advantage of a growing disenchantment among Japan's voters with either of the major parties. But China, through its nationalist assertiveness, might be providing them with a new purpose and platform.

It would be a profound historical blunder if Beijing's decision to energise and enlarge its territorial claims turns out to have not only alarmed its neighbours and reinvigorated US commitment to the region - it has already managed to achieve these unintended consequences - but to have remilitarised its historical enemy Japan as well. The Japanese people favour their current constitution and oppose nuclear armament. But China is giving the neonationalists an opening and they are taking it. In the 1980s, the first prime minister of Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew, once counselled against then-prevalent 1980s complaints against Japan's commercial success. ''The Japanese are good merchants but they are better warriors,'' he said. And he didn't think Japan's underlying warrior prowess was dead, only dormant. China should be careful it does not push its neighbours too far.


Read more: China provoking rise of Japan's hawks
 
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Philippines Backs Rearming of Japan

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The Philippines would strongly support a rearmed Japan shorn of its pacifist constitution as a counterweight to the growing military assertiveness of China, according to the Philippine foreign minister.

"We would welcome that very much," Albert del Rosario told the Financial Times in an interview. "We are looking for balancing factors in the region and Japan could be a significant balancing factor."

The unusual statement, which risks upsetting Beijing, reflects alarm in Manila at what it sees as Chinese provocation over the South China Sea, virtually all of which is claimed by Beijing. It also comes days before an election in Japan that could see the return as prime minister of Shinzo Abe, who is committed to revising Japan's pacifist constitution and to beefing up its military.

A constitutional revision that upgraded Japan's Self-Defence Forces to a fully fledged military would allow it far more freedom to operate and could change the military balance in Asia. In spite of its official pacifism, Japan's armed forces do not lack for hardware. Its navy has about 50 large surface ships, compared with China's 70-odd.

Support from other Asian nations for a rearmed Japan could embolden Mr Abe to change the constitution.

Beijing has long raised the spectre of a return of Japanese militarism. The attitude towards Japanese rearmament in the Philippines, itself colonised by Japan, suggests regional fears of an assertive China may be beginning to trump memories of Japan's aggressive wartime actions.

This month, the Philippines objected strongly to an announcement that maritime police from China's Hainan province would intercept ships entering what it considered its territorial waters.

Beijing has started issuing passports that include a map of its "nine-dash" claim to almost the entire South China Sea, parts of which are also claimed by Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei, Taiwan and Indonesia. The Philippines has refused to stamp the new passports in protest.

"The Philippines has contended all along that the nine-dash claim is an excessive claim that violates international law," Mr del Rosario said.

Southeast Asian countries concerned about what they see as an abrupt change in China's "peaceful-rise" diplomacy have welcomed the renewed commitment to the region by the US in the form of its "pivot". Mr del Rosario said Manila had agreed to more US ship visits and more joint training exercises.

The region is also closely watching Beijing's stand-off with Tokyo over the Japanese-controlled Senkaku islands, known as the Diaoyu in China.

Regional countries have struggled to present a united front against China, which prefers to deal with each capital bilaterally. Last June, the Association of Southeast Asian Nations failed to issue a final communiqu after Cambodia refused to endorse language referring to recent naval stand-offs with China.

In July, Japan and the Philippines signed a five-year agreement to strengthen military co-operation though exchanges of personnel and technology. Japan is providing 12 new patrol ships for the Philippine coast guard, financed with a combination of soft loans and foreign aid grants.

Philippines Backs Rearming of Japan
Japan is pretty much already armed they have one of the biggest Navies developing New modern tanks and also Fighter Jets so what else is left Nuclear Bombs only so Japan wants to go for Nuclear Weapons ???????
 
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Japan is using China as an excuse to get away from US, thay are tired of being doggy style....
 
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