Real Time Update on Coronavirus Outbreak in Iran

[Arian]

Even without insurance, that's an exorbitant amount!!! Considering you're testing your own citizens for something that is very well a global pandemic

Bernie Sanders want to give Americans better insurance and coverage and they call him a communist. lol Welcome to the reality of America.

According to the Herald, Osmel Martinez Azcue went to China for work and returned to Miami in January with “flu-like symptoms.” He went to Jackson Memorial Hospital, worried that he might have contracted the new coronavirus, called COVID-19. The initial cost for his visit was $3,270, billed to his insurance company.

Forbes: Testing for coronavirus should be free, but it’s not always that simple

 

[mangekyo]

the fatalities , I don't talk about because it all be speculation , as I only work on one shift and in on hospital in one City how you want me to tell the extent of disease and fatality ?
also our criteria for admitting patients is chest CT-Scan and that is a lot More sensitive than Coronavirus test specially in the early stage the problem is Thoracic CT-Scan is damn too sensitive and you are bound to admit people who are not actually corona patient but have some other type of viral pneumonia. so any number I tell you is inaccurate and wrong. I can just say we have admittance , we had death and we had people who were discharge and thank god people who are discharged are a lot more than the one who died.
about deficiency , its not a secret , you just need to open TV and Radio here and you see them . there is shortage of disinfectant , there is shortage of protective gears . we have no problem providing two drug treatment for now but providing 3 and 4 dug treatment for severe cases and the ones in dangerous population is a little harder thank to certain country unilateral actions .

What city do you work in? If the CT scan shows some other viral diseases, will they treat that patient as if he has corona, and therefore add him to the statistics?

 

[Hack-Hook]

Nobody said that RNA viruses don't mutate. Are you just saying something for the sake of participating in the discussion?

The issue here is that not every mutation is a viable mutation which is a basic high school biology fact. And not every change caused by a viable mutation is substantial to be considered in terms of clinical symptoms or epidemiology. What part of these two statements are wrong? Let's start from here.

You seem to miss the point all the time. Poliovirus changes, but once you get vaccinated against it following the regular schedule (2 months after birth, 4 months, 1 year, 5 years) you will develop immunity against it and you will need booster shots only if you live in a high risk area. This is supposed to be an example of why not every change counts in medicine.

As for types of influenza, there's a reason that medicine is different from biology. You can categorize humans into God knows how many types based on genetic differences. Anthropologists have discovered hundreds of different haplogroups on the Y-chromosome for their own studies. As far as medicine is concerned, we consider all humans the same. We tend to ignore racial differences when producing or prescribing drugs.

that's why we only had two strain of the disease instead of 20 and i predict the one with more aggressive behavior , well be removed from nature and the milder one remain and it will continue to mutate to many form and many of its mutation even wont be able to make humans sick

 

[Cthulhu]

This is a masterpiece. Proving that you're an idiot once more.

For the record, I never reached to any conclusion. I said that it "increases the chance of" it being a biological weapon which is a correct statement.

So what? You have a zoonotic virus that's been around for two months and a virus that's been around for thousands of years and was discovered a century ago. Which one has gone under more mutations? LOL

You're so retarded that can't even put two plus two together. Trying to extrapolate here and there from online articles to sound knowledgeable, always considering one factor while ignoring the other factors.

You can't tell the difference between a conclusion and an evidence strengthening a hypothesis. Neither can you tell the difference between a medical doctor and a biologist. You're a special kind of idiot. lol

OK Mr. CODID-19's mutations increases the chance of it being a biological weapon. We're arguing with an imbecile.

 

[Sc0lar_Vis@ri]

With all being said, it appears that nobody (across the world) is serious about actually fighting and eliminating this darn scourge. There seem to be overt/covert efforts to either deny that it is a problem, or to downplay the effects of what it can do.

 

[Hack-Hook]

As for types of influenza, there's a reason that medicine is different from biology. You can categorize humans into God knows how many types based on genetic differences. Anthropologists have discovered hundreds of different haplogroups on the Y-chromosome for their own studies. As far as medicine is concerned, we consider all humans the same. We tend to ignore racial differences when producing or prescribing drugs.

no we don't do that , for example a white person choice for first line of treatment for hypertension is beta-blocker or diuretic , first line for a black person high blood pressure would be calcium channel blocker .
a woman act different to disease than a man. there is one reason in human body 2+2 is not necessary 4 in general its 4 but it can also be 3 or 5

 

[Sc0lar_Vis@ri]

With all being said, it appears that nobody (across the world) is serious about actually fighting and eliminating this darn scourge. There seem to be overt/covert efforts to either deny that it is a problem, or to downplay the effects of what it can do.

 

[Hack-Hook]

People in Iran don't get charged 3200 USD for a COVID-19 test, are not sent 5000 USD bills for staying in the hospital and the Iranian president doesn't downplay the risk of COVID-19 because he thinks his opponents (the Democrats) want to use it against him before the presidential election. ;-)

depend on the ward but it will be a lot cheaper than USA , but you can get charged that amount and even more in private hospitals

 

[Arian]

that's why we only had two strain of the disease instead of 20 and i predict the one with more aggressive behavior , well be removed from nature and the milder one remain and it will continue to mutate to many form and many of its mutation even wont be able to make humans sick

That's very likely to happen but it's a prediction.

no we don't do that , for example a white person choice for first line of treatment for hypertension is beta-blocker or diuretic , first line for a black person high blood pressure would be calcium channel blocker .
a woman act different to disease than a man. there is one reason in human body 2+2 is not necessary 4 in general its 4 but it can also be 3 or 5

I wouldn't count gender as a "racial difference" to be honest. And you're right but when you open a pharmacology book they don't mention racial differences even for generic drugs. They discuss how the drug affects the elderly, children, adults with particular conditions, pregnant women and things like contraindications and side effects. At least my book never separated the effects of drug on Europeans, Asians or Africans.

 

[Hack-Hook]

200 USD for a test??? Dude, these tests are free.

the problem is not test , its the hospitas
https://www.businessinsider.de/inte...t-cost-cdc-health-insurance-2020-2/?r=US&IR=T
https://www.businessinsider.de/inte...eatment-medical-bill-hospital-costs-2020-3-2/

Note that the procedures were identified based on American Medical Associations procedure codes and simplified in name.

Pharmacy Total charge: $56.75 Azcue’s co-pay: $13.45

CMP blood test Total charge: $454 Azcue’s co-pay: $107.59

CBC blood test Total charge: $209 Azcue’s co-pay: $49.53 Virus and flu testing Total charge: $1,261 Azcue’s co-pay: $298.92

Infection testing, not specified Total charge: $295 Azcue’s co-pay: $69.91 STD testing Total charge: $65 Azcue’s co-pay: $15.40

Infection testing, not specified Total charge: $56 Azcue’s co-pay: $13.27

Pneumonia testing Total charge: $55 Azcue’s co-pay: $13.03 ER visit: Moderate severity Total charge: $819 Azcue’s co-pay: $819

Not in the US if you don't have an insurance.

The coronavirus test is done by CDC and is free the 3200$ is USA hospitals handiwork here it is explained how it work there
https://www.businessinsider.de/inte...eatment-medical-bill-hospital-costs-2020-3-2/

 

[IronHeart]

The clash of civilizations: The backward corrupt theocracy vs. The highest peak of human civilization.

Coronavirus containment:

The backward theocracy:

The highest peak of human civilization:

WHO says Gilead’s remdesivir may help treat coronavirus

Let this sink in.

 

[Arian]

The coronavirus test is done by CDC and is free the 3200$ is USA hospitals handiwork here it is explained how it work there
https://www.businessinsider.de/inte...eatment-medical-bill-hospital-costs-2020-3-2/

Yeah, it is done by the CDC but I'm not sure if it's free. Meanwhile, testing for COVID-19 should not be subject to chance like tossing a coin, meaning that if you test comes negative then you have to pay to the last single penny for your treatment.

Democrats are trying to make coronavirus care free for patients
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/3/21162840/coronavirus-treatment-test-cost-usa-new-york

The novel coronavirus, or Covid-19, is starting to spread in the United States, and already stories are emerging of patients hit with big medical bills. So Democrats are now trying to make the testing and treatment of the viral disease free to patients.

 

[Hack-Hook]

What city do you work in? If the CT scan shows some other viral diseases, will they treat that patient as if he has corona, and therefore add him to the statistics?

Its tehran so luckily the hospital I work have two CT-Scan device .
no if we determine on CT-scan the patient is not consistent with coronavirus finding on CT . we see if we can treat him out of hospitals we send him home and make a persciption for him , but if we determine the patient must be treated in hospital , we send him to normal emergency ward and from there he will be send to another ward (there is a high chance it will be internal medicine ward)

 

[Arian]

The clash of civilizations: The backward corrupt theocracy vs. The highest peak of human civilization.

Coronavirus containment:

The backward theocracy:

The highest peak of human civilization:

WHO says Gilead’s remdesivir may help treat coronavirus

Let this sink in.

Except that nearly all countries involved with COVID-19 have claimed to find a drug which can potentially treat coronavirus, including Iran which is currently running clinical trials for two potential drugs. Yet it will take months for these drugs to go through clinical trials. That applies to remdesivir as well. And if you could treat coronavirus, you wouldn't have had a 6% mortality rate currently.

 

[Raghfarm007]

What does this have to do with the corona virus?

its got everything todo with the virus. The rulling classes in Turdky are total scum......You think these people would ever tell the truth.....