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Read China Better: India should boost ties with Taiwan to understand the Chinese mindset

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My previous blog focussed on the need for the Indian and Chinese leaderships to work together to facilitate India’s entry to the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG). In this context I mentioned that the motives and moves of the Chinese leadership needed to be read better. For let’s accept the fact that understanding the Chinese mindset requires specialised insights. And since India has no other option but to deal with China, New Delhi needs to work out a new compact with Beijing.

The Narendra Modi government has already taken some steps in this direction. The approach has been to engage China more confidently and cast aside the baggage of the 1962 war. However, both the NSG issue and the earlier visa-for-Uighur-dissidents fiasco show that more needs to be done to bridge the gulf in understanding. And one player that can help us in this regard is Taiwan. True, China considers Taiwan as a renegade province and seeks eventual reunification. However, Taiwan – officially Republic of China – has remained de facto independent since 1949. Moreover, Taiwan has managed to evolve a robust multi-party democracy with deep roots.

And the last presidential and legislative elections in Taiwan brought to power the pro-Taiwan independence Democratic Progressive Party (DPP). Although current President Tsai Ing-wen has stated that her administration intends to maintain the status-quo in relations with China – underpinned by the principles of no independence, no unification and no use of force – Beijing still views the new dispensation in Taipei with suspicion. Meanwhile, the DPP government is keen on reviving Taiwan’s ‘Go South’ policy to boost engagements with Southeast Asian nations as well as India. This is motivated by Taiwan’s desire to diversify its investment portfolio which it believes is currently too China-centric
Hence, Taiwan is looking at India’s smart cities and green energy projects as possible investment destinations. These are project areas where Taiwan already has significant experience. Plus, investments in these Indian sectors will also boost Taiwan’s information and communication technology and electronic services industries which have been prioritised by the DPP administration.

But the most valuable returns from boosted India-Taiwan cooperation will accrue on the strategic front. Taiwan knows China better than any other player. Taipei has to regularly deal with Beijing, through appropriate institutions and intermediaries, in a variety of areas. Plus, over the last eight years, economic engagements between Taiwan and China have increased dramatically. So have people-to-people contacts and business-to-business ties. Against this backdrop, it would be prudent for India to work with Taiwan to read China better.

True, India doesn’t officially recognise Taiwan. And New Delhi has been coy in engaging Taipei on strategic matters in the past. But with the Modi administration willing to take recourse to new ideas and strategies, it should not hesitate in seeking strategic inputs on China from the Taiwanese. Besides, if China and Taiwan can do business and engage each other, there’s no reason why India and Taiwan shouldn’t scale up their ties. And the Modi government’s bold foreign policy approach and Taiwan’s ‘Go South’ strategy perfectly complement each other to lay the platform for a new understanding between New Delhi and Taipei.
 
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True, India doesn’t officially recognise Taiwan.

Might want to change that one for a start. :lol:

Anyway, foreigners have been trying to understand Chinese people for centuries. And they always seem to get it wrong.

Like during the Korean War, nobody on Earth thought that China would intervene and attack the USA + 16 of her allies combined in the Korean peninsula (who represented the UN). They were so shocked, they were pushed into the longest retreat in the history of the US armed forces.

Right after that, China went head-on in various bloody border wars against the Soviet Union. So we were basically fighting the entire world (UN + NATO + Soviets) during the Cold War.

Yet not Taiwan? Despite Taiwan being well in range of even our conventional rocket artillery, meaning we could have covered the entire island with cheap rocket artillery shells without even leaving our shores? We fought directly in multiple bloody wars against both the superpowers (USA + USSR) and all their lackeys combined, but we did not blanket Taiwan with mass produced rocket artillery?

People think just because they've read Sun Tzu that they can understand us. And that's exactly why they can't.
 
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Might want to change that one for a start. :lol:

Anyway, foreigners have been trying to understand Chinese people for centuries. And they always seem to get it wrong.

Like during the Korean War, nobody on Earth thought that China would intervene and attack the USA + 16 of her allies combined in the Korean peninsula (who represented the UN). They were so shocked, they were pushed into the longest retreat in the history of the US armed forces.

Right after that, China went head-on in various bloody border wars against the Soviet Union. So we were basically fighting the entire world (UN + NATO + Soviets) during the Cold War.

Yet not Taiwan? Despite Taiwan being well in range of even our conventional rocket artillery, meaning we could have covered the entire island with cheap rocket artillery shells without even leaving our shores? We fought directly in multiple bloody wars against both the superpowers (USA + USSR) and all their lackeys combined, but we did not blanket Taiwan with mass produced rocket artillery?

People think just because they've read Sun Tzu that they can understand us. And that's exactly why they can't.
Bro everything comes with expiry date

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...gdp-and-could-be-fatal-says-government-expert
 
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Yes please do that. More your stroke the red dragon the wrong way, more it will be beneficial to us in Pakistan.
 
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You are not understanding the US here, they intentionally divided Korea and kept one half of it in their hands.

Chinese may have fought the allies but It was US design to divide korea.

Similarly they divided China and kept one part of it under their control, today we call it Taiwan, a Democracy.

Where ever there is a potential to challenge US power or potential to deny them, they divided that region and kept one part under their control, like India Pakistan, Taiwan China, N.korea S.Korea etc...etc...,

Do not even mention about Sun Tzu.



Might want to change that one for a start. :lol:

Anyway, foreigners have been trying to understand Chinese people for centuries. And they always seem to get it wrong.

Like during the Korean War, nobody on Earth thought that China would intervene and attack the USA + 16 of her allies combined in the Korean peninsula (who represented the UN). They were so shocked, they were pushed into the longest retreat in the history of the US armed forces.

Right after that, China went head-on in various bloody border wars against the Soviet Union. So we were basically fighting the entire world (UN + NATO + Soviets) during the Cold War.

Yet not Taiwan? Despite Taiwan being well in range of even our conventional rocket artillery, meaning we could have covered the entire island with cheap rocket artillery shells without even leaving our shores? We fought directly in multiple bloody wars against both the superpowers (USA + USSR) and all their lackeys combined, but we did not blanket Taiwan with mass produced rocket artillery?

People think just because they've read Sun Tzu that they can understand us. And that's exactly why they can't.
 
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Might want to change that one for a start. :lol:

Anyway, foreigners have been trying to understand Chinese people for centuries. And they always seem to get it wrong.

Like during the Korean War, nobody on Earth thought that China would intervene and attack the USA + 16 of her allies combined in the Korean peninsula (who represented the UN). They were so shocked, they were pushed into the longest retreat in the history of the US armed forces.

Right after that, China went head-on in various bloody border wars against the Soviet Union. So we were basically fighting the entire world (UN + NATO + Soviets) during the Cold War.

Yet not Taiwan? Despite Taiwan being well in range of even our conventional rocket artillery, meaning we could have covered the entire island with cheap rocket artillery shells without even leaving our shores? We fought directly in multiple bloody wars against both the superpowers (USA + USSR) and all their lackeys combined, but we did not blanket Taiwan with mass produced rocket artillery?

People think just because they've read Sun Tzu that they can understand us. And that's exactly why they can't.
Bro everything comes with expiry date

https://www.theguardian.com/busins/...gdp-and-could-be-fatal-says-government-expert
Nehru thought he could steal our land in 1962 as well. He thought that since we were in the middle of the worst famine in our history, we would not fight back.

So u think u can over run our country plz tell ur President to try this anytime we r ready to welcome u all with our fire crackers
 
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You are not understanding the US here, they intentionally divided Korea and kept one half of it in their hands.

Chinese may have fought the allies but It was US design to divide korea.

Similarly they divided China and kept one part of it under their control, today we call it Taiwan, a Democracy.

You don't know anything about the Korean War. :lol:

The US + 16 of her allies had almost completely overwhelmed North Korea before the Chinese intervention.

If they had not gone against China's warning (do not approach the Yalu River), North Korea would not exist today.

Similarly, if India had not gone against China's warning (do not continue the Forward Policy) they might still have Aksai Chin today.

You only lost a big chunk of territory in 1962. You are welcome to try again, to enforce the British drawn lines like the MacMahon line.
 
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Might want to change that one for a start. :lol:

Anyway, foreigners have been trying to understand Chinese people for centuries. And they always seem to get it wrong.

Like during the Korean War, nobody on Earth thought that China would intervene and attack the USA + 16 of her allies combined in the Korean peninsula (who represented the UN). They were so shocked, they were pushed into the longest retreat in the history of the US armed forces.

Right after that, China went head-on in various bloody border wars against the Soviet Union. So we were basically fighting the entire world (UN + NATO + Soviets) during the Cold War.

Yet not Taiwan? Despite Taiwan being well in range of even our conventional rocket artillery, meaning we could have covered the entire island with cheap rocket artillery shells without even leaving our shores? We fought directly in multiple bloody wars against both the superpowers (USA + USSR) and all their lackeys combined, but we did not blanket Taiwan with mass produced rocket artillery?

People think just because they've read Sun Tzu that they can understand us. And that's exactly why they can't.

No shit Sherlock! You are the kind to invite someone to your house and still serve him poisoned tea.
For an entire civilisation to come up through thievery and back stabbing, what you think are your assets doesn't surprise me.
Sun Tzu is a course in deceiving. Say something and do something else. Appreciate the inputs but no thanks :)
 
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You don't know anything about the Korean War.

The US + 16 of her allies had almost completely overwhelmed North Korea before the Chinese intervention.

If they had not gone against China's warning (do not approach the Yalu River), North Korea would not exist today.

Similarly, if India had not gone against China's warning (do not continue the Forward Policy) they might still have Aksai Chin today.

A big giant white elephant which opposes human rights and rants at other nations in Asia, so that the messiah USA will become dearer to Asian nations, is what communist china is and it will be like that in the coming decades.

CCP is like a self imposed prison for chinese potential and a friend of western nations which help them to dominate the world by playing the Villain character.

you people have no clue !
 
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No shit Sherlock! You are the kind to invite someone to your house and still serve him poisoned tea.
For an entire civilisation to come up through thievery and back stabbing, what you think are your assets doesn't surprise me.
Sun Tzu is a course in deceiving. Say something and do something else. Appreciate the inputs but no thanks :)

Alright then. Thanks for Aksai Chin, you are welcome to donate more land later. :enjoy:

For now, that huge trade deficit you are paying us every year is good enough. If you want to give up more, you know where we are.
 
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Alright then. Thanks for Aksai Chin, you are welcome to donate more land later. :enjoy:

For now, that huge trade deficit you are paying us every year is good enough. If you want to give up more, you know where we are.

Well we are not feeling as generous as before. Though you are welcome to beg for more :enjoy:
 
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Well we are not feeling as generous as before. Though you are welcome to beg for more :enjoy:

You guys are the ones begging right now. :P

Didn't Modi just tell China he is willing to give us reactor deals and industrial park deals if we do not veto India's NSG attempt? And UNSC attempt? :lol:
 
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You guys are the ones begging right now. :P

Didn't Modi just tell China he is willing to give us reactor deals and industrial park deals if we do not veto India's NSG attempt? And UNSC attempt? :lol:

Lol ! you call a negotiation as begging? He is just pulling a Sun Tzu on you. Promise it now and un-promise it later. :P

You will veto it now ? Good ! Watch us rise in stature and serve crow to you on a platter to eat. :lol:
 
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