You basically said what I have been trying to explain.
It was NOT me who said it is very easy to make system cocktail on fighter jets.
RC400 and MBDA MICA approved for JF-17
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You basically said what I have been trying to explain.
It was NOT me who said it is very easy to make system cocktail on fighter jets.
Your discussion style was very poor. You were claiming things which made you look like a kid who doesn't know what he is talking about..
The missiles are there for use. If AIM-9P/L can be used in the French radar than AIM-120C5 can also be used in the future French radars. Pakistan will might just have to pay for the fee, and it will surely not going to be the HUGE COST. However, like blain said.. the inclusion of MICA in the RC400 negates such a need.
The missiles are there for use. If AIM-9P/L can be used in the French radar than AIM-120C5 can also be used in the future French radars. Pakistan will might just have to pay for the fee, and it will surely not going to be the HUGE COST. However, like blain said.. the inclusion of MICA in the RC400 negates such a need.
But my point was not on the technical infeasibility. French or South African BVR solution on US aircraft is doable (and PAF would have done this 10 years ago) if the Americans had relented and allowed some sort of an arrangement where we could have married the non-US BVR solution onto the F-16s. They hold on to the source codes pretty tightly.
Thus far the word is that F-16 fleet will be AIM-120 equipped and the JF-17 fleet will be MICA/SD-10 capable. J-10 is still something further out. I would think for ease of logistics and commonality, MICA/SD-10 would be a good option for J-10 as well, but if PAF decides to get an AESA capability on the J-10 and the range is extended (lets say beyond 100 km) then PAF may want some type of BVRAAM that is able to exploit those ranges and then MICA may not fit the bill. But this is something a bit too early to discuss. I am sure a bigger discussion point for the PAF is, what kind of avionics would be suitable for the J-10.
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Airbus to sell 160 jets to China By CHRISTOPHER BODEEN
BEIJING - Airbus said it signed contracts Monday to sell 160 commercial passenger jets to China in a deal worth around $14.8 billion.
The order includes 110 of the European company's A320 jets and 50 of the slightly larger A330 planes, Airbus officials said in Beijing, where they were accompanying French President Nicolas Sarkozy on his first state visit to the Asian trading giant.
Airbus and Chinese partners this summer signed an agreement to produce A320s in China in anticipation of large Chinese orders for the popular single aisle jet that seats 150 or more passengers. Size-wise, the plane is well suited for Chinese domestic routes expected to show strong growth in the years ahead as the economy continues to expand.
Airbus and its American archrival Boeing Co. predict China will become the world's second-biggest aircraft market after the United States, with airlines buying 1,900 to 2,600 planes over the next two decades.
The order stands to push Airbus past Chicago-based Boeing in total orders for commercial aircraft this year.
Boeing said last week it had received 1,047 commercial airplane orders this year, already beating its 2006 record-setting total of 1,044 orders with more than a month to go. Airbus had logged 1,021 commercial jet orders as of the end of October, the most recent data available on the company's Web site.
The exact pricetag for the huge purchase was not immediately clear. Louis Gallois, chief executive of European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co. NV, the owner of Airbus, said he "had not calculated it."
French officials speaking on condition of anonymity said the deal totaled about 10 billion euros, or $14.8 billion. Other Airbus officials said the list price of the planes came to about $17 billion, although such large scale ordes usually include deep discounts and other pricing incentives.
The deal is welcome news to Airbus, which has struggled with a decline in the U.S. dollar and delays with its A400M military transport aircraft and the A380 superjumbo that has wiped billions of euros off EADS' profit.
Earlier this month, Gallois said the company needed to find an extra 1 billion euros ($1.46 billion) in cost savings after the planemaker and its parent company announced third-quarter losses.
The dollar's drop to record lows against the euro also makes it harder for Airbus to compete against Boeing Co., because while it sells its planes in dollars, many of its costs are in euros.
Airbus' agreement to assemble planes in China was seen as part of a long-term strategy to win a greater share of the Chinese market that for years was dominated by Boeing. Its final assembly line in the Chinese city of Tianjian is due to deliver its first aircraft in early 2009. The plant is expected to be able to produce four A320s a month by 2011 and a total of about 300 A320 planes by 2016.
This should neatly pave the way for the RC-400 and MBDA deal for JF-17...
BEIJING - Airbus said it signed contracts Monday to sell 160 commercial passenger jets to China in a deal worth around $14.8 billion.
The order includes 110 of the European company's A320 jets and 50 of the slightly larger A330 planes, Airbus officials said in Beijing, where they were accompanying French President Nicolas Sarkozy on his first state visit to the Asian trading giant.
Airbus and Chinese partners this summer signed an agreement to produce A320s in China in anticipation of large Chinese orders for the popular single aisle jet that seats 150 or more passengers. Size-wise, the plane is well suited for Chinese domestic routes expected to show strong growth in the years ahead as the economy continues to expand.
Airbus and its American archrival Boeing Co. predict China will become the world's second-biggest aircraft market after the United States, with airlines buying 1,900 to 2,600 planes over the next two decades.
The order stands to push Airbus past Chicago-based Boeing in total orders for commercial aircraft this year.
Boeing said last week it had received 1,047 commercial airplane orders this year, already beating its 2006 record-setting total of 1,044 orders with more than a month to go. Airbus had logged 1,021 commercial jet orders as of the end of October, the most recent data available on the company's Web site.
The exact pricetag for the huge purchase was not immediately clear. Louis Gallois, chief executive of European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co. NV, the owner of Airbus, said he "had not calculated it."
French officials speaking on condition of anonymity said the deal totaled about 10 billion euros, or $14.8 billion. Other Airbus officials said the list price of the planes came to about $17 billion, although such large scale ordes usually include deep discounts and other pricing incentives.
The deal is welcome news to Airbus, which has struggled with a decline in the U.S. dollar and delays with its A400M military transport aircraft and the A380 superjumbo that has wiped billions of euros off EADS' profit.
Earlier this month, Gallois said the company needed to find an extra 1 billion euros ($1.46 billion) in cost savings after the planemaker and its parent company announced third-quarter losses.
The dollar's drop to record lows against the euro also makes it harder for Airbus to compete against Boeing Co., because while it sells its planes in dollars, many of its costs are in euros.
Airbus' agreement to assemble planes in China was seen as part of a long-term strategy to win a greater share of the Chinese market that for years was dominated by Boeing. Its final assembly line in the Chinese city of Tianjian is due to deliver its first aircraft in early 2009. The plant is expected to be able to produce four A320s a month by 2011 and a total of about 300 A320 planes by 2016.
This should neatly pave the way for the RC-400 and MBDA deal for JF-17...
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US is pressing France not to sell the RC-400/MBDA for the JF-17 co-produced by Pak/China. now with this chinese sweetner, there should be no concerns on the part of France.
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AIM 9P/L source codes were given by now Raytheon...
AIM 9P/L source codes were given by now Raytheon...
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Agreed, but my memory reminds me of a post saying that FC-20s will be coming with a powerful PESA rather than AESA. And new PL-14 RJBVRAAM or Meteor RJBVRAAM were also reportedly on offer on FC-20. If FC-20 gets a Meteor I can imagine FC-20 becoming a real *** buster. 3times NEZ as compared to AMRAAM and raning AMRAAM D . Man I would love this missi
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well sir i couldnt found any thing abouts its range and other specs like that...
can anyone help. however i found this intresting information from Thales Group website:
can anyone help. however i found this intresting information from Thales Group website:
RC 400 - Airborne Fire Control Radar - Thales Group
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here is an article from Janes. com... still nothing about the range, number of targets it can track and simultaneously shoot at!!!
RC 400 compact multimission, multitarget radar (France) - Jane's Avionics
RC 400 compact multimission, multitarget radar (France) - Jane's Avionics
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