Raymond Davis Case: Shumaila’s uncle poisoned in Lahore

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Davis Case: Shumaila

LAHORE: Some unidentified outlaws have fed poisonous bills to the paternal uncle of Shumaila, the widow of Faheem, who was crushed to death in Lahore in Raymond Davis double murder case, Geo News reported early Thursday.

The discussed family also claimed to have received life-threats a week ago for following lawsuit against Raymond Davis, sources said.

According to details, some unknown gunmen broke into house of Shumaila’s uncle Mohammed Sarwar and forcefully fed him poisonous pills besides brutally torturing the victim.

Later, the intruders succeeded to flee the crime scene while the victim, Mohammed Sarwar, was rushed to hospital in critical condition, sources said quoting hospital sources.

Meanwhile, the area SSP Sadiq Fogar claimed that their home is under police’s constant observation.

It is pertinent to mention here that the Faheem’s widow committed suicide at hospital in protest against unlawful act happened to her family and laziness of government in handing US suspect punishment. She also demanded justice of Pakistan government before suicide via television footages.

 

[Durrak]

situation is getting worse

 

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I hope it doesn't turn out it was some Pakistani who did it... Then they'll say "Oh look you guys are just making all this crap up"

 

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No easy solution to impasse over jailed CIA man

WASHINGTON: The standoff between Pakistan and US over the detention of an American CIA contractor held in the fatal shooting of two Pakistanis is posing a growing diplomatic quandary for both countries.

Some members of US Congress, Democrats and Republicans alike, are threatening to cut off funds to Pakistan if Raymond Allen Davis is kept much longer in a Pakistani jail. But turning him over to the US could unleash a torrent of anti-American sentiment across Pakistan, threatening to undercut the country’s fragile civilian government.

With anti-government protests sweeping the Middle East, public restlessness and anger could ripple as far as Pakistan, probably making the timing less than ideal for the government to make a public show of cooperation with the US. The US maintains that Davis, 36, is exempt from criminal prosecution under the principle of diplomatic immunity and should be turned over to American authorities. The US also claims Davis acted in self-defence when he shot the two men he said tried to rob him. Does the US still maintain that position despite the disclosures that Davis was working as a CIA security contractor? “Yes,” insisted US State Department spokesman, PJ Crowley, on Tuesday. Crowley said US Ambassador to Pakistan, Cameron Munter, met on Tuesday with foreign affairs minister, “continuing our work with Pakistani authorities to resolve the issue.”

But no easy face-saving resolution for either side appeared in sight.

Pakistan’s government thus far has not offered a formal position on the issue of diplomatic immunity, despite efforts to try to ease tensions by US Senate Foreign Relations Chairman, John Kerry, who visited Pakistan last week.

A judge last week put off ruling on the case until mid March to give the government more time to formulate an official position.

If the dispute continues to fester, it could set back gains the US has claimed in rebuilding trust for Pakistan’s military and in winning the country’s cooperation in going after al Qaeda and other terrorists inside Pakistan. It could also threaten billions in US aid.

And also hovering in the background: the security of Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal given the apparent lack of influence of the fledgling central government. The controversy is the latest in a series of recent setbacks in US-Pakistani relations and also underscores growing friction between the CIA and its Pakistani counterpart, the Inter-Services Intelligence, commonly known as ISI.

“It certainly complicates relations between the US and Pakistan,” said Mark Quarterman, a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think-tank. “This is an issue that has dominated the headlines and political discourse in Pakistan since the shootings.” In particular, US drone strikes inside Pakistan that have claimed civilian casualties are “very unpopular among the Pakistani people,” who generally think the government has already acquiesced too much in cooperating with the US, he said.

“A relationship that has been strained at times anyway was just sent into a tailspin by the Raymond Davis incident,” said Quarterman, who headed a United Nations technical team that helped investigate the assassination of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto.

Analysts in both the US and Pakistan said that the ruling Pakistan People’s Party is weak to begin with and that the shooting raises new questions about its ties to Washington and its very stability. “On the one hand, the government wants to please the Americans and bow down to their wishes,” said Talat Masood, a Pakistani political and military expert. “On the other hand, it wants to tell the Pakistani people it is not giving in to US pressure.”

Previously, the US administration had identified Davis as simply “a diplomat.” US officials said he was in Pakistan on a diplomatic passport.

The Associated Press (AP) and several other news organisations learned about Davis working for the CIA last month, immediately after the shootings, but withheld publication of the information because it could endanger his life while he was jailed in Pakistan.

The AP had intended to report Davis’ CIA employment after he was out of harm’s way, but the story was broken on Sunday by The Guardian, a newspaper of London. He was working as a CIA security contractor - essentially a bodyguard - and living in a safe house in Lahore, according to former and current US officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorised to talk publicly about the incident. There are hundreds of CIA employees on the ground in Pakistan, which is one of the agency’s biggest stations. Davis’ arrest raised concerns about their safety.

US lawmakers have raised the possibility of cutting off US aid to Pakistan if it continues to hold Davis. Earlier this month, US House Armed Services Committee Chairman, Howard “Buck” McKeon and John Kline bluntly told senior Pakistani officials during a trip to the country about the ramifications of their actions. “I think it is imperative that they release him,” Kline told reporters at a news conference, adding there is certainly the possibility that there would be repercussions if they don’t. ap

 

[Markus]

I dont think this issue is going to get resolved anytime soon. Its getting complicated day by day.

Lets see who blinks first - US or Pakistan !

 

[Spring Onion]

I dont think this issue is going to get resolved anytime soon. Its getting complicated day by day.

Lets see who blinks first - US or Pakistan !

they have to blink at last. but the incident has exposed too many things. which once again proves that man proposes God disposes

 

[BoseDK]

This story is having all the masala for a super hit bollywood movie. Husband shot by Firangi. Wife commiting suicide. Uncle being given poison. Few accused fleeing to US. The other victim's family who got run-over by US vehicle, getting green card and 1 crore rupee., new revelations about status of firangi villain etc etc.

People fighting for honour and dignity, swearing, threatening, apologetic, revengeful, and all stuffs.

 

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Davis row creates rift between ISI, CIA



Thursday, February 24, 2011

ISLAMABAD: The Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) is ready to split with its US’ Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) because of frustration over what it calls heavy-handed pressure and its anger over what it believes is a covert US operation involving hundreds of contract spies, according to an internal document obtained by a US news agency, an influential Washington based paper reported.

According to a statement drafted by the ISI for the media but never released, an already-fragile relationship between the two agencies collapsed following the shooting death of two Pakistanis by Raymond Davis, a US contracted spy.
"Post-incident conduct of the CIA has virtually put the partnership into question," said the media statement drafted after the issue of American shooter become public. A copy of which was obtained this week by the said news agency.

The statement accused the CIA of using pressure tactics to free Davis.

"It is hard to predict if the relationship will ever reach the level at which it was prior to the Davis episode," the statement said. "The onus of not stalling this relationship between the two agencies now squarely lies on the CIA."

The ISI fears there are hundreds of CIA contracted spies operating in Pakistan without the knowledge of either the Pakistan government or the intelligence agency, a senior Pakistani intelligence official said.


Pakistani intelligence had no idea who Davis was or what he was doing when he was arrested, the official said, adding that there are concerns about "how many more Raymond Davis are out there."

The ISI official said that Davis had contacts in the tribal regions and knew both the men he shot. He said the ISI is investigating the possibility that the encounter on the streets of Lahore stemmed from a meeting or from threats to Davis.

The CIA repeatedly has tried to penetrate the ISI and learn more about Pakistan's nuclear program. The ISI has mounted its own operations to gather intelligence on the CIA's counterterrorism activities

The ISI is now scouring thousands of visas issued to US employees in Pakistan. The ISI official said Davis' visa application contains bogus references and phone numbers. He said thousands of visas were issued to US Embassy employees over the past five months following a government directive to the Pakistan Embassy in Washington to issue visas without the usual vetting by the interior ministry and the ISI. The same directive was issued to the Pakistan embassies in Britain and the United Arab Emirates, he said.



Davis row creates rift between ISI, CIA

 

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How many Davis-type agents are in Pakistan?



Thursday, February 24, 2011

ISLAMABAD: The Pakistani authorities are trying to figure out the exact number and locations of other Raymond Davis type CIA and Blackwater agents whose main focus, it is feared, is Pakistan’s nuclear programme.
The cold blooded killings in Lahore by Davis has alarmed the Pakistani security agencies, which, according to sources, have started collecting details of all the likes of Raymond Davis, their local moles and their activities in Pakistan.
However, as indicated by the former foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi that the issue of the Raymond Davis has been mishandled, the sources said that there are certain elements within the government who are found to be too supportive of Washington than Pakistan.
Sources believe that the number of Davis like CIA and Blackwater agents is high and may be around one hundred. However, there is no exact number available with the authorities. It was General Musharraf who, after 9/11 for perpetuating his dictatorial rule, opened the country’s gates for American agents at the cost of Pakistan’s own security.
In 2009, three Americans along with a Pakistani had tried to trespass into the restricted area of Kahuta but the official security agency deployed at the check post got alerted and intercepted them when they crossed the check post. The Pakistani accompanying these Americans was a retired assistant director of the FIA, who while introducing himself as an FIA officer had managed to free the Americans and returned.
Through this trespassing, according to an official report, the Americans had tried to check the security arrangements for the Kahuta Research Laboratories, one of the leading nuclear sites of Pakistan. “This one incident had a vital role in moving out DynCorp men from the Sihala Police College facility where they were allowed to train the police officials but were found in spying on the country’s nuclear facility,” a source said.
DynCorp, which is a Blackwater like private security agency that works for American CIA outside the United States, was also allowed to operate in sensitive areas, including the Sihala Police College by Musharraf but was pampered by the Interior Ministry of the present government.
Despite alarming intelligence reports about the DynCorp’s activities under the cover of Anti-Terrorism Assistance Programme (ATAP), the Interior Ministry, vide its letter number 1/41/2003-Police dated 29 June 2009, had granted an NoC for import of explosive material by the office of ATAP at the Sihala Police College.
“The NoC was issued without security clearance from intelligence agencies under the US pressure,” a security agency report submitted to the government said, adding that prior to approaching the Interior Ministry, the US Embassy in Islamabad had approached the Ministry of Industries to issue the NoC but the Industries Ministry’s authorities decided that it would be issued subject to the clearance by the ISI and IB.
“The IB sought some clarifications about quantity and type of explosives and detail of courses. Resultantly administration of Police College Sihala requested the Americans running the ATAP camp to provide the required details. However, instead of providing the details, Mr Robert A Clark and Mr Bob of ATAP Camp contacted the US Embassy, which used its influence and managed to get the NoC while bypassing the rules.”
In a similar fashion and following the request of the US Embassy as already reported by The News, the Interior Ministry had issued prohibited bore licenses to DynCorp’s local partner Inter-Risk which, after the media reported the matter, had become a major controversy but no one in the Interior Ministry was touched.
Even now some key elements in the Interior Ministry are said to be favouring Washington in Davis case. The same elements, it is said, are using their influence on the families of the deceased, killed by Davis, to accept dollars from Americans to ensure early release of the American killer.
The role of the Pakistani Embassy in the US is also under scrutiny after the reported issuance of about 400 visas to US citizens in the first two days of the implementation of the controversial visa policy under which the embassy was empowered to issue visas to US officials upto one year without referring the cases to Pakistan.


How many Davis-type agents are in Pakistan?


In my point of view, as Davis exposed so we have to expose Davis type ministers in federal body where Ministry of interior served as shelter for these anti-Pakistan Rambos.

I want to ask Mr. Shah Mehmood Qureshi that where he was when US visa scandal rose? Wasn't better to show his efficiency & patriotism at that time? If he took stand in 2009 & listen warnings of security agencies over massive visa issue to American then this day we didn't face.

 

[Markus]

they have to blink at last. but the incident has exposed too many things. which once again proves that man proposes God disposes

Jana, think again.

Even Pakistan may end up blinking first.

There is no way US can allow its CIA man to serve Pakistani justice.

Secondly, Davis may have too much information with him, US cannot afford him opening his mouth against anybody incl. Pakistan.

Lets see if your agencies are able to extract info from him without torture.

This is a high profile case, you will have to extract info without getting physical with him.

 

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FAISALABAD – Three armed men forcibly gave poisonous pills to Muhammad Sarwar, the uncle of Shumaila Kanwal, the widow of Fahim shot dead by Raymond Davis, after barging into his house in Rasool Nagar, Chak Jhumra.
Sarwar was rushed to Allied Hospital in critical condition where doctors were trying to save his life till early Thursday morning. The brother of Muhammad Sarwar told The Nation that three armed men forced their entry into the house after breaking the windowpane of one of the rooms. When they broke the glass, Muhammad Sarwar came out. The outlaws started beating him up.
The other family members, including women and children, coming out for his rescue, were taken hostage and beaten up. The three outlaws then took everyone hostage at gunpoint and forced poisonous pills down Sarwar’s throat.
“One of the pills was thrown out by Sarwar while he was forced to sallow the others,” family members said. The family members said the gunmen were demanding a patch-up with Raymond Davis, but when “all the family refused, they started torturing us”.
Muhammad Afzal, the brother of Sarwar, said the people of the area, after hearing the screams of the family, gathered on the spot. The three armed men, who were inside the house by then, opened aerial fire and managed to escape. Police reached half an hour after the incident. The people of the area protested against the police’s late arrival. Muhammad Sarwar was admitted to the hospital in critical condition, where doctors said his condition was getting better but “it could not be said about his life as in such cases patients gain senses and sometimes they go back in comma and die”.
Heavy police were deployed outside the hospital but no political worker or leader from any political party was seen.
It merits mentioning that when this scribe with Nawa-i-Waqt team was walking through the village of Shumaila Kanwal the other day, Muhammad Sarwar told this scribe that two armed foreigners tortured him and threatened to kill him and all his family members. He also alleged that the foreigners threatened to bomb all the village if “we didn’t cooperating to get Raymond Davis released”. Waqt news TV broke the news first of all.

 

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LAHORE: Some unidentified outlaws have fed poisonous bills to the paternal uncle of Shumaila, the widow of Faheem, who was crushed to death in Lahore in Raymond Davis double murder case, Geo News reported early Thursday.

I thought Faheem was one of the gunshot victims, not the runover victim. It is ridiculously unprofessional of the news media to be so careless in their reporting. especially in a case like this.

He said thousands of visas were issued to US Embassy employees over the past five months following a government directive to the Pakistan Embassy in Washington to issue visas without the usual vetting by the interior ministry and the ISI. The same directive was issued to the Pakistan embassies in Britain and the United Arab Emirates, he said.

Hello????

 

[DV RULES]

Markus: Secondly, Davis may have too much information with him, US cannot afford him opening his mouth against anybody incl. Pakistan.

These too mush information security from US government is full of surprise. But i am not ruling out fact that this case become status consciousness for US in some meanings.

Hello????

Hello!!!!

 

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Hello!!!!

We need to identify the people in our government who authorized the visa exemptions and charge them with treason.