Raymond Davis Case: Diyat Paid by Saudi Arabia? US Denies Payment.
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Excellent post Mehru,
Besides what amuses me is that when the families of those departed appealed on several news channels, when their grief and their poverty was shown on the television and they appealed to the well off Pakistanis to help them financially, what did they get? I am told that the families of Faizan and Fahim had opened a joint account to get donations, guess how much did they get? A freaking Rs. 49,000 to be divided on two families.
When their families asked for help of their fellow countrymen, No one came to their rescue, And now that they have accepted blood money as they had no other choice, we all have joined the bandwagon to condemn them and call them names.
What hypocritical world do we live on?
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Davis buys his flight to freedom
LAHORE: A tension-filled saga spread over more than a month and a half was brought to an abrupt conclusion on Wednesday as American citizen Raymond Davis was released and quickly flown out of Pakistan after heirs of the two youths he had shot dead on Jan 27 told a local court they had accepted blood money.
A police official told Dawn that the heirs of each of the two victims were given Rs100 million in compensation.
However, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton declared that the United States had not paid any blood money. Analysts say its technically possible and the blood money or diyat might have been paid by or through the family of Davis, and not directly by the US government.
In any case, most analysts are convinced that the deal that resulted in the signing of the diyat agreement and payment of a huge amount was the result of a deal or understanding between Pakistans premier intelligence agency and Washington.
The Lytton Road police had registered a case against Davis on charges of killing two Pakistani citizens, Faizan and Faheem, at downtown Qurtaba Chowk in Lahore. Two traffic wardens had chased down the suspect who pleaded he had killed the bike-riders in self-defence after they had tried to rob him.
Another young man, Ibadur Rehman, was crushed to death by a vehicle that followed close behind the car Davis was driving. The police later traced this second vehicle to the American consulate in Lahore but the consulate did not hand it over to law-enforcement agencies and also chose not to disclose the identity of those who were in it at the time of the incident.
The killing was treated separately from the gunning down of the two youngsters by Davis, and apparently Wednesdays developments have no bearing on it.
The killings had rocked Pakistan and strained ties between Islamabad and Washington. The US pressed for diplomatic immunity for Davis, leading to some clear and many ambiguous responses from officials in Pakistan. Shah Mehmood Qureshi, who was the foreign minister at the time the incident took place, stated that the arrested American didnt enjoy diplomatic immunity.
The US plea was weakened when it came out that the man was actually one of the CIA operatives in Pakistan. The pardon to him in exchange for blood money meant an implicit admission on the part of the US that either Davis didnt qualify for immunity or the team fighting his case had lost all hope of being able to convince the authorities here that he enjoyed such a status.
The Foreign Office did not come up with any clear stance on the immunity issue as it did not submit any certificate in the Lahore High Court that could establish his entitlement to immunity.
The LHC had left the decision to the trial court.
The Davis defence team had for some time been exploring the possibility of buying his freedom under the diyat provisions in Pakistani law. The heirs of the two victims had earlier publicly refused to accept blood money. They appeared to have widespread public sentiment by their side which grew further after Shumaila, wife of Faheem, committed suicide to protest attempts at letting the suspect go without trial.
At a press conference just days before the eventual release of the accused, one of the heirs had asked Pakistani officials not to compel them to accept a deal in the wake of a pass-the-buck game involving the federal and Punjab governments.
On the day the release of Davis and his subsequent flight from the country was secured, the families of the two victims were conspicuous by their absence, as was Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif.
The victims families were missing from their locked-up homes, while Mr Sharif explained that he had to rush to London to be with his elder brother and party leader, Nawaz Sharif, who was unwell.
Both the governments in Punjab and at the centre came under more flak from people who came out in various cities to protest the handing over of Davis to American officials.
While the US ambassador again expressed his regrets over the Jan 27 incident, the protesters and current affairs commentators described the handover as a capitulation.
Daviss release would lead to strengthening of the ties between Pakistan and the US, said a statement by Senator John Kerry who had led a rescue-David mission to Pakistan in February.
It was a swallowing of national pride in the name of protection of national interests, retorted the protesters gathered in Lahore and elsewhere, sending a clear warning to the governments here that it might be confronted with intense public anger over the issue in the coming days.
The immediate public reactions carried a few rather muted references to the presence of a law that allows the accused to buy out the victims heirs.
There were also one or two rare mentions about the release being a result of a deal between the ISI and CIA and that a powerful state might have played the role of a mediator in the affair.
Earlier in the day, 18 legal heirs to the victims appeared before Additional District and Sessions Judge Mohammad Yousaf Aojla and recorded their statements at the Kot Lakhpat jail where the case was being heard due to extraordinary security concerns.
According to Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah, they forgave the accused and accepted diyat an Islamic provision that allows the aggrieved party to accept blood money.
An official source said receipts of Rs100 million paid to each family were presented in the court.
However, Asad Manzoor Butt, a lawyer who had been representing the victims relatives, told the media outside the jail that he had been detained for several hours by the prison administration and the heirs had been forced to sign the diyat papers.
He alleged that security agencies had taken the families of Faheem and Faizan into custody on Tuesday night and they were being held incommunicado.
A senior police officer said the families were being kept in protective custody of law-enforcement agencies.
According to a version from the official source, the victims families had disengaged Mr Butt and hired two new lawyers Raja Irshad and Shabbir Hussain who filed their powers of attorney on Wednesday and formalised the process of acceptance of diyat.
The source said that first the AD&SJ indicted Davis in the double murder case and later the heirs of the victims filed their affidavits under Section 345 of CrPC, accepting the blood money, and stated before the court that they had no objection to the release of the accused.
In a separate case of possessing illegal weapons, the judge fined Davis Rs20,000 which the accused promptly deposited. The court awarded him a jail term under Section 382-B of CrPC, which was considered as served in lieu of the 41 days he had spent in jail.
As the court proceedings concluded, representatives of the US embassy and members of victims families along with their new counsel left the jail premises in a convoy of at least six vehicles under tight security.
Sources in the jail administration said Davis was also in the convoy.
A special American plane soon flew him out of Pakistan with Afghanistan reported to be his immediate destination.
Immigration officials at the Allama Iqbal Airport said they had no knowledge of the departure of Davis whom a high court order had some time back placed on the Exit Control List.
They said the special flight that apparently flew Davis out could have been operated from the old airport in the city which was not under the control of civilian agencies.
Davis buys his flight to freedom | Newspaper | DAWN.COM
LAHORE: A tension-filled saga spread over more than a month and a half was brought to an abrupt conclusion on Wednesday as American citizen Raymond Davis was released and quickly flown out of Pakistan after heirs of the two youths he had shot dead on Jan 27 told a local court they had accepted blood money.
A police official told Dawn that the heirs of each of the two victims were given Rs100 million in compensation.
However, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton declared that the United States had not paid any blood money. Analysts say its technically possible and the blood money or diyat might have been paid by or through the family of Davis, and not directly by the US government.
In any case, most analysts are convinced that the deal that resulted in the signing of the diyat agreement and payment of a huge amount was the result of a deal or understanding between Pakistans premier intelligence agency and Washington.
The Lytton Road police had registered a case against Davis on charges of killing two Pakistani citizens, Faizan and Faheem, at downtown Qurtaba Chowk in Lahore. Two traffic wardens had chased down the suspect who pleaded he had killed the bike-riders in self-defence after they had tried to rob him.
Another young man, Ibadur Rehman, was crushed to death by a vehicle that followed close behind the car Davis was driving. The police later traced this second vehicle to the American consulate in Lahore but the consulate did not hand it over to law-enforcement agencies and also chose not to disclose the identity of those who were in it at the time of the incident.
The killing was treated separately from the gunning down of the two youngsters by Davis, and apparently Wednesdays developments have no bearing on it.
The killings had rocked Pakistan and strained ties between Islamabad and Washington. The US pressed for diplomatic immunity for Davis, leading to some clear and many ambiguous responses from officials in Pakistan. Shah Mehmood Qureshi, who was the foreign minister at the time the incident took place, stated that the arrested American didnt enjoy diplomatic immunity.
The US plea was weakened when it came out that the man was actually one of the CIA operatives in Pakistan. The pardon to him in exchange for blood money meant an implicit admission on the part of the US that either Davis didnt qualify for immunity or the team fighting his case had lost all hope of being able to convince the authorities here that he enjoyed such a status.
The Foreign Office did not come up with any clear stance on the immunity issue as it did not submit any certificate in the Lahore High Court that could establish his entitlement to immunity.
The LHC had left the decision to the trial court.
The Davis defence team had for some time been exploring the possibility of buying his freedom under the diyat provisions in Pakistani law. The heirs of the two victims had earlier publicly refused to accept blood money. They appeared to have widespread public sentiment by their side which grew further after Shumaila, wife of Faheem, committed suicide to protest attempts at letting the suspect go without trial.
At a press conference just days before the eventual release of the accused, one of the heirs had asked Pakistani officials not to compel them to accept a deal in the wake of a pass-the-buck game involving the federal and Punjab governments.
On the day the release of Davis and his subsequent flight from the country was secured, the families of the two victims were conspicuous by their absence, as was Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif.
The victims families were missing from their locked-up homes, while Mr Sharif explained that he had to rush to London to be with his elder brother and party leader, Nawaz Sharif, who was unwell.
Both the governments in Punjab and at the centre came under more flak from people who came out in various cities to protest the handing over of Davis to American officials.
While the US ambassador again expressed his regrets over the Jan 27 incident, the protesters and current affairs commentators described the handover as a capitulation.
Daviss release would lead to strengthening of the ties between Pakistan and the US, said a statement by Senator John Kerry who had led a rescue-David mission to Pakistan in February.
It was a swallowing of national pride in the name of protection of national interests, retorted the protesters gathered in Lahore and elsewhere, sending a clear warning to the governments here that it might be confronted with intense public anger over the issue in the coming days.
The immediate public reactions carried a few rather muted references to the presence of a law that allows the accused to buy out the victims heirs.
There were also one or two rare mentions about the release being a result of a deal between the ISI and CIA and that a powerful state might have played the role of a mediator in the affair.
Earlier in the day, 18 legal heirs to the victims appeared before Additional District and Sessions Judge Mohammad Yousaf Aojla and recorded their statements at the Kot Lakhpat jail where the case was being heard due to extraordinary security concerns.
According to Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah, they forgave the accused and accepted diyat an Islamic provision that allows the aggrieved party to accept blood money.
An official source said receipts of Rs100 million paid to each family were presented in the court.
However, Asad Manzoor Butt, a lawyer who had been representing the victims relatives, told the media outside the jail that he had been detained for several hours by the prison administration and the heirs had been forced to sign the diyat papers.
He alleged that security agencies had taken the families of Faheem and Faizan into custody on Tuesday night and they were being held incommunicado.
A senior police officer said the families were being kept in protective custody of law-enforcement agencies.
According to a version from the official source, the victims families had disengaged Mr Butt and hired two new lawyers Raja Irshad and Shabbir Hussain who filed their powers of attorney on Wednesday and formalised the process of acceptance of diyat.
The source said that first the AD&SJ indicted Davis in the double murder case and later the heirs of the victims filed their affidavits under Section 345 of CrPC, accepting the blood money, and stated before the court that they had no objection to the release of the accused.
In a separate case of possessing illegal weapons, the judge fined Davis Rs20,000 which the accused promptly deposited. The court awarded him a jail term under Section 382-B of CrPC, which was considered as served in lieu of the 41 days he had spent in jail.
As the court proceedings concluded, representatives of the US embassy and members of victims families along with their new counsel left the jail premises in a convoy of at least six vehicles under tight security.
Sources in the jail administration said Davis was also in the convoy.
A special American plane soon flew him out of Pakistan with Afghanistan reported to be his immediate destination.
Immigration officials at the Allama Iqbal Airport said they had no knowledge of the departure of Davis whom a high court order had some time back placed on the Exit Control List.
They said the special flight that apparently flew Davis out could have been operated from the old airport in the city which was not under the control of civilian agencies.
Davis buys his flight to freedom | Newspaper | DAWN.COM
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Kya problem hai yaar?
Maarne wala khush, marne waale ki family khush...to tum logon ko kya problem hai?
Maarne wala khush, marne waale ki family khush...to tum logon ko kya problem hai?
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Army, ISI, Punjab CM played the main role
ISLAMABAD: The Chief of the Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, through the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and some influential families of Lahore, played a key role in convincing the families of Faizan and Faheem that Raymond Davis would be released in any case and they would get nothing, so the best course was to accept money and forgive the American killer.
The ISPR director general, who is also the spokesman of the ISI and Pakistan Army, Major General Athar Abbas, on being asked told The News: I am completely unaware whether General Kayani or ISI played any role in convincing the families in Raymond Davis case. General Athar, however, did not deny the role of General Kayani and the ISI in remaining continuously in touch with the families of Faizan and Faheem for the last two months.
On the other hand, Shahbaz Sharif categorically denied that his departure for London on the D-day was part of the deal. He said that he never contacted the families of Faizan and Faheem to convince them to accept the money. Shahbaz also said that his government had arrested and detained Raymond. He tried to give the impression that his visit to London was in connection with the heart attack suffered by Mian Nawaz Sharf. The Punjab government sources, however, confirmed that Shahbazs tour to London was planned in indecent haste.
Though there were comments that the federal government also played a role in convincing the families but sources privy to the developments confided to The News that despite having the utmost desire to do so, the federal government was unable to play any role in the whole episode and the whole credit went to the Pakistan Army, ISI and Shahbaz Sharif.
A senior PML-N leader privy to the developments told The News that he was unaware why the Pakistan Army and the ISI were so much interested in releasing Raymond Davis but knew that Shahbaz Sharif was active and used his old friends in the city to convince the families after some important personalities from Saudi Arabia asked Shahbaz Sharif to get Raymond released at the earliest. On the other hand, a representative of the Saudi Embassy in Islamabad told The News on Tuesday that the Saudi government had nothing to do with the Raymond Davis case in Pakistan.
Credible sources told The News that in the second week of February, Shahbaz Sharif received instructions from some of his foreign friends and he engaged some influential personalities of Lahore to convince the families of the deceased Faizan and Faheem to accept the money. The same influential friends of Shahbaz Sharif, according to these sources, also persuaded the leadership of PML-Q and JUI-F not to create any problems in the resolution of the issue.
Sources said following the suggestions of his foreign friends, Shahbaz Sharif instructed Punjabs Law Minister Rana Sanaullah not to officially inform the federal interior ministry about the names of four Americans who were revealed by Raymond Davis on the first day of investigation, so they could not be put on the Exit Control List and thus could leave Pakistan easily.
Rana Sanaullah did the same and later he had to admit that he had made a mistake. Rana Sanaullah, after mounting public pressure to arrest the killers of Ebad-ur-Rehman, sent an official letter to the interior ministry not to allow the four Americans involved in killing of Ebad-ur-Rehman to leave but refused to give the names of these American as per the directions of Shahbaz Sharif.
Following the willingness of the families to accept the money, sources say, Shahbaz Sharif deputed Rana Sanaullah to supervise the whole operation of release of Raymond Davis and left for London. Credible sources of the Punjab government confirmed to The News that during this whole period, officials of ISI were in constant touch with Shahbaz Sharif and the families of Faizan and Faheem. The officials of ISI also remained present in all the meetings held between Shahbaz Sharifs representatives and the families.
It is worth mentioning that President Zardari and an important and powerful federal minister did their best to get Davis free but their efforts were thwarted by the Punjab government. This was appreciated by the media. However, informed sources told this scribe that the American officials knew who played what role and were thankful to Shahbaz Sharif for his services.
Senior PML-N leader Siddiqul Farooq, while talking to this scribe, said that according to his knowledge, there were reports that the Saudi government played a vital role in the resolution of the Raymond Davis issue. Siddique said the heirs of both Faizan and Faheem were taken to Saudi Arabia and were paid most part of the agreed compromised amount. He said that rest of the amount was paid today (Wednesday) in the courtroom. Siddique, however, didnt clarify who was the real person who acted on the orders of Saudis in Lahore and pressurised the families to accept the compromised money. Some leaders also claim that chief justice of Lahore High Court was also on board and he acted on suggestion of Shahbaz Sharif. However, The News couldnt verify the same from independent sources but it is on record that chief justice LHC on Tuesday lifted the ban on inclusion of Raymond in the ECL.
Army, ISI, Punjab CM played the main role
ISLAMABAD: The Chief of the Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, through the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and some influential families of Lahore, played a key role in convincing the families of Faizan and Faheem that Raymond Davis would be released in any case and they would get nothing, so the best course was to accept money and forgive the American killer.
The ISPR director general, who is also the spokesman of the ISI and Pakistan Army, Major General Athar Abbas, on being asked told The News: I am completely unaware whether General Kayani or ISI played any role in convincing the families in Raymond Davis case. General Athar, however, did not deny the role of General Kayani and the ISI in remaining continuously in touch with the families of Faizan and Faheem for the last two months.
On the other hand, Shahbaz Sharif categorically denied that his departure for London on the D-day was part of the deal. He said that he never contacted the families of Faizan and Faheem to convince them to accept the money. Shahbaz also said that his government had arrested and detained Raymond. He tried to give the impression that his visit to London was in connection with the heart attack suffered by Mian Nawaz Sharf. The Punjab government sources, however, confirmed that Shahbazs tour to London was planned in indecent haste.
Though there were comments that the federal government also played a role in convincing the families but sources privy to the developments confided to The News that despite having the utmost desire to do so, the federal government was unable to play any role in the whole episode and the whole credit went to the Pakistan Army, ISI and Shahbaz Sharif.
A senior PML-N leader privy to the developments told The News that he was unaware why the Pakistan Army and the ISI were so much interested in releasing Raymond Davis but knew that Shahbaz Sharif was active and used his old friends in the city to convince the families after some important personalities from Saudi Arabia asked Shahbaz Sharif to get Raymond released at the earliest. On the other hand, a representative of the Saudi Embassy in Islamabad told The News on Tuesday that the Saudi government had nothing to do with the Raymond Davis case in Pakistan.
Credible sources told The News that in the second week of February, Shahbaz Sharif received instructions from some of his foreign friends and he engaged some influential personalities of Lahore to convince the families of the deceased Faizan and Faheem to accept the money. The same influential friends of Shahbaz Sharif, according to these sources, also persuaded the leadership of PML-Q and JUI-F not to create any problems in the resolution of the issue.
Sources said following the suggestions of his foreign friends, Shahbaz Sharif instructed Punjabs Law Minister Rana Sanaullah not to officially inform the federal interior ministry about the names of four Americans who were revealed by Raymond Davis on the first day of investigation, so they could not be put on the Exit Control List and thus could leave Pakistan easily.
Rana Sanaullah did the same and later he had to admit that he had made a mistake. Rana Sanaullah, after mounting public pressure to arrest the killers of Ebad-ur-Rehman, sent an official letter to the interior ministry not to allow the four Americans involved in killing of Ebad-ur-Rehman to leave but refused to give the names of these American as per the directions of Shahbaz Sharif.
Following the willingness of the families to accept the money, sources say, Shahbaz Sharif deputed Rana Sanaullah to supervise the whole operation of release of Raymond Davis and left for London. Credible sources of the Punjab government confirmed to The News that during this whole period, officials of ISI were in constant touch with Shahbaz Sharif and the families of Faizan and Faheem. The officials of ISI also remained present in all the meetings held between Shahbaz Sharifs representatives and the families.
It is worth mentioning that President Zardari and an important and powerful federal minister did their best to get Davis free but their efforts were thwarted by the Punjab government. This was appreciated by the media. However, informed sources told this scribe that the American officials knew who played what role and were thankful to Shahbaz Sharif for his services.
Senior PML-N leader Siddiqul Farooq, while talking to this scribe, said that according to his knowledge, there were reports that the Saudi government played a vital role in the resolution of the Raymond Davis issue. Siddique said the heirs of both Faizan and Faheem were taken to Saudi Arabia and were paid most part of the agreed compromised amount. He said that rest of the amount was paid today (Wednesday) in the courtroom. Siddique, however, didnt clarify who was the real person who acted on the orders of Saudis in Lahore and pressurised the families to accept the compromised money. Some leaders also claim that chief justice of Lahore High Court was also on board and he acted on suggestion of Shahbaz Sharif. However, The News couldnt verify the same from independent sources but it is on record that chief justice LHC on Tuesday lifted the ban on inclusion of Raymond in the ECL.
Army, ISI, Punjab CM played the main role
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Shumaila kin threaten suicide
FAISALABAD - The family members of Shumaila Kanwal, the widow of Muhammad Faheem who committed suicide, have threatened to end their lives in Lahore as a protest against the release of killer Raymond Davis.
Muhammad Afzal, the uncle of Shumaila, while talking to TheNation Wednesday lamented that there was no law in the country. He alleged that both federal and provincial governments had manoeuvred to secure the release of Davis.
“We never demanded Diyat. We want blood for blood,” he said.He said first Shumaila sacrificed her life and now we would commit collective suicide at the same spot where Faheem was shot dead by Davis in Lahore to mark our protest. He said his family was not provided justice.
He denied that his family had reached any blood money deal.
“We did not accept any money nor did we pardon American killer,” he said adding that “we people are not for sale, we want blood for blood”.
He said since the day one of the incident, both the federal and provincial governments were trying to release Davis but they could not do so, fearing a severe backlash from the public. But in the end, the government bowed down to the US pressure, he said adding that “our rulers are slaves of America.”
Meanwhile, police on late Wednesday night have arrested Shumaila Kanwal’s disabled mother, her sister, uncles and other relatives after they collectively announced to commit suicide against the release of Raymond Davis.
Police conducted a raid at the residences of Shumaila’s relatives at Chak Jhumra and arrested them. Later, police shifted them to an unknown place. The family members of Shumaila announced to commit suicide at the spot where two citizens were shot dead by Raymond Davis after which police had arrested them.
Muhammad Afzal, uncle of Shumaila, before their arrest while talking to TheNation said after the release of Raymond David it was proved that there was no rule of law prevailing in the country. He alleged that the rulers and provincial law minister forcibly made the release of Davis.
Shumaila kin threaten suicide | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online
FAISALABAD - The family members of Shumaila Kanwal, the widow of Muhammad Faheem who committed suicide, have threatened to end their lives in Lahore as a protest against the release of killer Raymond Davis.
Muhammad Afzal, the uncle of Shumaila, while talking to TheNation Wednesday lamented that there was no law in the country. He alleged that both federal and provincial governments had manoeuvred to secure the release of Davis.
“We never demanded Diyat. We want blood for blood,” he said.He said first Shumaila sacrificed her life and now we would commit collective suicide at the same spot where Faheem was shot dead by Davis in Lahore to mark our protest. He said his family was not provided justice.
He denied that his family had reached any blood money deal.
“We did not accept any money nor did we pardon American killer,” he said adding that “we people are not for sale, we want blood for blood”.
He said since the day one of the incident, both the federal and provincial governments were trying to release Davis but they could not do so, fearing a severe backlash from the public. But in the end, the government bowed down to the US pressure, he said adding that “our rulers are slaves of America.”
Meanwhile, police on late Wednesday night have arrested Shumaila Kanwal’s disabled mother, her sister, uncles and other relatives after they collectively announced to commit suicide against the release of Raymond Davis.
Police conducted a raid at the residences of Shumaila’s relatives at Chak Jhumra and arrested them. Later, police shifted them to an unknown place. The family members of Shumaila announced to commit suicide at the spot where two citizens were shot dead by Raymond Davis after which police had arrested them.
Muhammad Afzal, uncle of Shumaila, before their arrest while talking to TheNation said after the release of Raymond David it was proved that there was no rule of law prevailing in the country. He alleged that the rulers and provincial law minister forcibly made the release of Davis.
Shumaila kin threaten suicide | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online
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They also want their share of the money and green cards?
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Lets see how many Pakistanis will now support Pakistan Army and ISI in any Waziristan operation now that they let the murderer Raymond Davis walk away free.
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