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Raymond Davis Case: Developing Story

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The following information, drawn from a State Department chart outlining immunities afforded to foreign diplomatic personnel residing in the United States, highlights the basic differences between consular and diplomatic immunities.


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Source: US Diplomacy.org


From above, any unbaised man can easily conclude--

Davis Raymond arrest was legall--
He can be tried in courts--
He is not fully immune to-- murder, self defence--
 
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This is not an official statement.

Officially the US case is even further behind, they have yet to prove is this guy Raymond Davis. Then he is not a diplomat being tried, he's an illegal immigrant, ab initio, being tried. The case would be blown wide open.
 
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......., the intent is to free Pakistan from America's grips.

That is truly a noble intent, but I fear its implementation is beyond the capabilities of the present power set up. That is the unpleasant truth I fear.
 
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The following information, drawn from a State Department chart outlining immunities afforded to foreign diplomatic personnel residing in the United States, highlights the basic differences between consular and diplomatic immunities.


dipomatic.jpg


Source: US Diplomacy.org


From above, any unbaised man can easily conclude--

Davis Raymond arrest was legall--
He can be tried in courts--
He is not fully immune to-- murder, self defence--

Dont contradict your own sources!

Member of technical and adminstrative staff cant be prosecuted, and RD belongs to this category!
 
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I want to see him tried as a proxy to LIMIT the US's transgressions.
Nice, but diplomats with immunity are immune from prosecution. If you want to put "the US's transgressions" on trial, why not organize your own mock trial with both prosecution and defense first?

If there is a problem with my perception, then no harm done to you right? Just don't send your so called killer diplomats to Pakistan.
I have to put up with "killer diplomats" here! Diplomats who are killers and even murderers in their home countries yet who can travel to New York and D.C. to host wine and tea parties! By what right does Pakistan claim any special privileges to exempt such people?

Go read Pakistan's FO Manual, it clearly states consular staff would be given non-diplomatic status.
Ah, I begin to get a glimmering. Don't you think it is possible some functionary in the FO granted Davis full diplomatic immunity by mistake? That would explain the "reliable source" story, the relevant official is trying to cover his butt. Since diplomatic immunity is an administrative rather than a legal issue once that mistake is made Pakistan has to stick to it.
 
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US postpones bilateral contacts until Davis freed

WASHINGTON: The United States has put all bilateral contacts with Pakistan on hold until Islamabad releases an employee of the its consulate in Lahore, arrested for shooting down two men, diplomatic sources told Dawn.

The sources said that the dispute could affect three major events planned this year: President Asif Ali Zardari’s visit to Washington, the next round of US-Pakistan strategic dialogue and trilateral talks involving Pakistan, Afghanistan and the United States.

Last week, Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi postponed a visit to Munich, Germany, to attend an international security conference after US officials informed Islamabad that their Secretary of State Hillary Clinton might not be able to meet him because of this dispute.

But the events planned for this year are of far greater importance than the conference in Munich.

Delay in Mr Zardari’s visit, planned next month, “would send wrong signals around the world and would also embarrass him at home”, said one diplomatic source.

Similarly, “delaying the strategic dialogue would have serious implications”, he added.

The sources believe that while the Americans are unlikely to postpone the trilateral talks, “the US decision to postpone all bilateral contacts can put Pakistan at a great disadvantage during the negotiations”.

They also want that the US Congress is currently considering budget proposals for the next fiscal year and the diplomatic row could affect $1.5 billion of annual assistance for Pakistan as well.

Last week, it seemed that the Pakistani government had made up its mind to release the American, Raymond Davis, but on Sunday the wife of one of his victims committed suicide, which further complicated the matter.

Investigations by Dawn confirm that Mr Davis worked for a private security firm before he went to Pakistan but he does have a diplomatic passport.

He submitted the same passport to the Pakistan Embassy in Washington which gave him a work, but not a diplomatic visa.

The Pakistanis stress that the US Embassy was slow in demanding diplomatic immunity for Mr Davis and was quiet on this matter for 48 hours, creating doubts about his status.

“Despite such doubts, Pakistan has agreed in principle to grant diplomatic immunity to Mr Davis and send him back to the US,” said a senior diplomatic source in Washington.

“But the government is scared of political repercussions, particularly after the suicide,” the source added.

A Pakistan diplomatic source said all sort of interactions could be affected, including US assistance to Pakistan, one of the largest non-Nato recipients of American military aid.

“They tell us they’ll interact with us once this issue is resolved,” the source said. The controversy could even effect a $7.5-billion, five-year civilian aid package or official visits or meetings between the sometimes friends, sometimes foes.

US postpones bilateral contacts until Davis freed | newspaper | DAWN.COM
 
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@ solomon II
Save us your Zionist Fascist rant.

The case is in the court.

If you want to support the suspect go protest outside the court on his next judicial hearing.
 
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This not the first time diplomats(if this guy is indeed a diplomat) have been involved in illegal activities on foreign soil..Mohammed Arshad Cheema a Pakistani diplomat arrested for being involved hijacking of IC-814 and found in possession of 16 Kg of RDX had to be let go, despite massive Indian protest.

Arrested Pak diplomat linked to IC 814 hijacking - The Times of India

So indeed, if he is a diplomat ..pakistani govt will have no choice but to let him go..unless US offers to wave his diplomatic immunity.
 
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so much crocodile tears, whining, crying, complsining

US is made a baby :lol::lol:
 
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Dont contradict your own sources!

Member of technical and adminstrative staff cant be prosecuted, and RD belongs to this category!

Why dont you read how a referenced document should be read--

Member of technical and administrative staff -- Maybe arrested or Detained-- No¹-- but there are conditions-- represented by the symbol ¹.
Follow the conditions how it will be Yes--

For your ease-- 1 Reasonable constraints, however, may be applied in emergency circumstances involving self-defense, public safety or the prevention of serious criminal acts.
 
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First it was UAVs hitting any targets at will in Pakistan, now an american inside Pakistan gunning down two ISI agents. Then three more americans get into a hit and run to save the first one, killing yet another Pakistani.

Are there any regards to life in Pakistan? It hard to see Pakistan resist to a counter action against this.
 
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This is not an official statement.

This unofficial statement lead to America putting all sorts of unofficial pressure on GoP-- bribing the victims for green card-- forcefully and illegally trying to free Raymond Davis--threatening to suspend all bilateral talks-- and what not--

This sort of statements are always made unofficially--
 
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