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The same way Pakistan has enough to threaten US also, US understand what does it means. Just once face to face explain what they will lose. US already has beaten from Pakistani people by his image and more than 75% establishment already against him so what remain back?

Just stand solidly over issue and they will lose.


Clinton, Hillary R
Speech at Munich Security conference 2011 (Part)

So the transition to democracy will only work if it is deliberate, inclusive, and transparent. Those who want to participate in the political system must commit to basic principles such as renouncing violence as a tool of political coercion, respecting the rights of minorities – ethnic and religious minorities, participating in a spirit of tolerance and compromise. Those who refuse to make those commitments do not deserve a seat at the table. We will continue to champion free and fair elections as an essential part of building and maintaining a democracy.

The transition to democracy is more likely to be peaceful and permanent when it involves both the government in power and a broad cross-section of the citizenry.

So the United States urges the leaders of the region to work with civil society, to see it as a partner rather than a threat, and making the political, economic, and social reforms that are being called for. And just as America engages leaders in the region, we will continue to engage the people through civil society, through dialogue like the town halls that I have enjoyed doing on my travels.


So when we make this case to our friends in the region, we do so in the fundamental belief that their countries will emerge stronger and more prosperous if their societies are more open and responsive. Democracies with vibrant and truly representative institutions resolve differences not in the streets, but in city halls and parliament buildings. That is what leads to real stability and security. That is what leads to prosperity. That is what makes countries even stronger allies.


What beautiful word on democracy and support of a alleged terrorist killing 2 Pakistanis in Public place. This is United states of America (Leader in Human rights & democracy) Excellent BS
 
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To hell with your aid/assistance. Just leave us alone damn it.

oo come on...WE (us and you) dont have to be that cocky.... :) if the CSF / ESF (18 billion , 2001 - 2009) would not have been there then the country would have been imploded (defaulted monetarily). now this scenario does not exclude IMF which would have been blocked , because IMF 11 billion would not have reached us untill we already have a system intact and have some Foreigh reserves to do buissness.

now what,

PIA has almost imploded.
PSO is defaulter (todays news)
KESC has imploded
railways has imploded

we are moving towards a major catastroph and the only people responsible are PAKISTANIS. our corruption, our miss management and our lack of commitment towards national issues.

we have to be guilty rather then being cocky. the "maula jatt" attitude will drag us to deeper pitt.
 
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i think the time is the most near now , when we have to wind up our nukes in order to trade for the financial influx.

remember,

IMF , according to the policy cannot lend us more.
The development budgets are being used to give salaries.
Fisccal deficit is increaseing.
If one dollar become 90 ruppees, then we cant even buy fuel, and PSO is already a defaulter to international market.
So , the only way out will be a cocain sniff of a few more billion dollars, but this time, with a heavier price.
 
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ISI does not operate as suggested expressed in this article. Believe me..Do you even know what is the average pay of an ISI driver? and did you see those 2 men's home? that were too poor. Leading me to believe how could they be robbers and how could they be ISI spies. Fools, the man will be released most likely, don't you remember previously 5 american born american muslims who came to Pakistan to blow DAM do you know what happened next?
 
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This may be an idea to get this guy out from Pakistan..
 
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Raheel, Glorious Pakistani and American Eagle... and all others

For the sake of maintaining civility on the forum please add "allegedly" before choosing criminalizing adjectives for either Davis or the victims.

Otherwise this will turn into a brawl which we have avoided thus far.
 
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As its turning out, Raymond Davis may not even be Raymond Davis, the IT guy...
 
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Raheel, Glorious Pakistani and American Eagle... and all others

For the sake of maintaining civility on the forum please add "allegedly" before choosing criminalizing adjectives for either Davis or the victims.

Otherwise this will turn into a brawl which we have avoided thus far.

Point taken asim but we were only protesting against American eagle as he is repeatedly using the term "crooks" for those two guys despite of the fact that it is yet to be estabilished by the courts.
 
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pakistan should no leave him..
give him death sentence hang him...he has killed two innocent pakistanis....

including a wife of one of the victim

we dnt want anything from america bt hang this man

i will agree even on this we should return their whole +60 F-16/all other USA made weapons

bt dnt get it back to the USA.
 
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U.S.-Pakistan relations strained further with case of jailed diplomat

By Karen DeYoung and Karin Brulliard
Washington Post Staff Writers
Monday, February 7, 2011

The Obama administration has suspended all high-level dialogue with Pakistan, a key U.S. partner in the Afghanistan war, over the case of an American diplomat the Pakistanis have detained on possible murder charges, U.S. and Pakistani officials said.

The case of Raymond Allen Davis, who has admitted he fatally shot two Pakistanis he said threatened him from a motorcycle while he was driving in Lahore on Jan. 27, has severely strained relations between the two governments and threatens to scuttle a planned summit among U.S., Afghan and Pakistani leaders scheduled for the end of this month in Washington.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton canceled a meeting last weekend with Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi at an international security conference in Munich to protest Allen's detention, according to officials from both countries who were not authorized to discuss the situation on the record.

The administration has twice summoned Pakistani Ambassador Husain Haqqani to the White House for formal complaints and demands that Pakistan recognize Davis's diplomatic immunity and release him immediately. The message was repeated in a meeting in Islamabad Monday between Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari and U.S. Ambassador Cameron Munter.

Davis, 36, holds a diplomatic passport and is a member of the "technical and administrative staff" at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad "entitled to full criminal immunity in accordance with the Vienna Convention," the State Department said Monday.

The administration and Congress, the statement said, "have repeatedly made clear at the highest levels that this matter must be resolved by the Pakistan government or it could impact other bilateral initiatives."

In Pakistan, the issue has become embroiled in widespread anti-Americanism and suspicions, fanned by the Pakistani media and used for political advantage, that U.S. spies and intelligence contractors are secretly operating in the country. It has also posed a challenge to Pakistan's weak civilian government as it struggles to wrest control of national security policy from the powerful military and fends off opposition political parties.

The most powerful opposition group, the Pakistan Muslim League headed by former prime minister Nawaz Sharif, rules Punjab province and its capital, Lahore, where Davis is being held and several hearings have taken place in the case.

Although the administration has been unequivocal in its insistence that David has diplomatic status, it has been less than clear on the nature of his job in Pakistan over the last two years. An early embassy statement said it was "security" related, while officials in Washington have said that he vetted questionable visa applicants. The CIA has declined to comment on the case.

On Thursday, the Lahore court extended Davis's detention for another eight days. The U.S. Embassy complained that it was given no notice of the hearing, that Davis had no attorney present, and that he was not provided with an interpreter.

"He was denied due process and a fair hearing," the statement said. "His continued detention is a gross violation of international law."

Although Zardari's Pakistan People's Party government has close relations with the administration, and depends on the billions of dollars in U.S. military and economic assistance, it fears being painted as a U.S. lackey.

A foreign ministry official said that the government itself is divided over the case. The ministry has determined that Davis is immune from prosecution based on his passport and diplomatic visa, and the fact that Pakistan "accepted" that when the Davis first arrived in the fall of 2009, the official said.

Other parts of the government, he said, see some advantage in using the situation to prove the government's independence from Washington. But the Americans, he said, "have dropped hints they could go to any extent" to get Davis released.


Further complicating the situation, a Pakistani intelligence official said that the two men Davis killed were not, as he has said, armed robbers intent on stealing money, his telephone and perhaps his car, but intelligence agents assigned to tail him. This official said the two intended to frighten Davis because he crossed a "red line" that the official did not further define.

Both the military's Inter-Services Intelligence service (ISI) and the Interior Ministry's Intelligence Bureau regularly use motorcycle tails to track the movement of U.S. officials, another Pakistani official said.

The Pakistani media has also suggested that Davis is being held hostage to a wrongful death case brought in New York by family members of four Americans killed in the 2008 terrorist attack in Mumbai, India. U.S. and Indian officials have blamed the attack on the Pakistani organization Lashkar-i-Taiba, which has long-standing ties to ISI. Four senior ISI officials, including the organization's director, Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, have been called as witnesses in the case.

According to his 2009 visa application, Davis was born in Wise, Va. He gave an address in Las Vegas, where he is listed in Nevada state registration records as the co-owner of a firm called Hyperion Protective Services.

On Sunday, the widow of one of the men killed by Davis committed suicide in the city of Faisalabad. According to a doctor at the hospital where she was admitted after ingesting rat poison, she said she did it because she feared Davis would be released without facing trial.

Brulliard reported from Islamabad. Special correspondent Shaiq Hussain in Islamabad contributed to this report.
 
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US only hurting their interests in the region they need Pakistan and they have to sacrifice Raymond Davis.
 
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Its like "tumne hamein Raymond nahi diya humne tumse nahi bolna" what ha cheap diplomacy .they really need to take some classes of diplomacy
 
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