RAW to sabotage CPEC - Chinese Intelligence report cautions Pakistan.

[PatriotLover]

Why not engineers? They invest in Pakistan and take back all money. Pakistan is deprived from Redistribution of Income and employment. however they shall get all the rights to use pakistani infrastructure for a very long time. Yesterday I watched a discussion on Pakistani media on you tube. One expert was saying that China is not investing in Pakistani power plant and it is not ready to accept pakistan state gaurentee and asks pakistan to deposite money in escrow accounts. I think pakistan certainly need to chinage its economic policy of over relying on china. Pakistan get a loat cheaper electricity from Gujarat. It is readily available.

My friend you seem to be the few Pakistanis who get it. I have spoken to family and friends in Pakistan, very few realise whats happening.

China is investing here for sure, but bulk of the money goes into roads and ports which will carry riches to and from China as we have nothing much to export. The port will be in Chinese ownership for 40 years. They send thousands of their workers to do the work. They will earn money from from the 'investment' and take it home. China is building in Pakistan like its their own land. We keep singing that it will benefit us, we can also export etc. yea export what? Seafood?

Why dont they train our engineers? We will get experience and in the future build our own projects. Why is it that our unskilled labourers will be working under their field operators? And they will remain unskilled forever.

 

[MULUBJA]

My friend you seem to be the few Pakistanis who get it. I have spoken to family and friends in Pakistan, very few realise whats happening.

China is investing here for sure, but bulk of the money goes into roads and ports which will carry riches to and from China as we have nothing much to export. The port will be in Chinese ownership for 40 years. They send thousands of their workers to do the work. They will earn money from from the 'investment' and take it home. China is building in Pakistan like its their own land. We keep singing that it will benefit us, we can also export etc. yea export what? Seafood?

Why dont they train our engineers? We will get experience and in the future build our own projects. Why is it that our unskilled labourers will be working under their field operators? And they will remain unskilled forever.

Exactly,

That is what precisely I wanted to say.
They invested In gwadar. Took back all money and use Gwadar for 40 years. What is the benifit to Pakistan? After 40 years when they hand back gwadar to Pakistan, all infrastructure would have become obsolete. It is better for pakistan to Invest their own money though the infrastructure development is slow. Or go for open bidding and suit most some one with most appropriate terms and condition for Pakistan. In Gwadar case it would have been more benificial for pakistan to build with some loan and lease that to china. Had that been a case, all money would have remained in pakistan and Pakistn's contractors would have been tremendously been benefited.

 

[PatriotLover]

Exactly,

That is what precisely I wanted to say.
They invested In gwadar. Took back all money and use Gwadar for 40 years. What is the benifit to Pakistan? After 40 years when they hand back gwadar to Pakistan, all infrastructure would have become obsolete. It is better for pakistan to Invest their own money though the infrastructure development is slow. Or go for open bidding and suit most some one with most appropriate terms and condition for Pakistan. In Gwadar case it would have been more benificial for pakistan to build with some loan and lease that to china. Had that been a case, all money would have remained in pakistan and Pakistn's contractors would have been tremendously been benefited.

We seem to have lost all our national pride somewhere down the line.

Everything we look to China. To tackle India, we call for China, any problems to China we look. Our forefathers envisioned a Pakistan which were self reliant, with industry and prosperity, not a country under the Chinese.

Do we even have the courage to ask China to change the clause of the project and transfer tech and knowhow so that Pakistani engineers will build the project? So that we will control what goes on on our land? Or has our great race become subordinate to the Chinese?

 

[DragonEmpire]

Give the Naxals nuclear backpax to use against New Delhi.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

We seem to have lost all our national pride somewhere down the line.

Everything we look to China. To tackle India, we call for China, any problems to China we look. Our forefathers envisioned a Pakistan which were self reliant, with industry and prosperity, not a country under the Chinese.

Do we even have the courage to ask China to change the clause of the project and transfer tech and knowhow so that Pakistani engineers will build the project? So that we will control what goes on on our land? Or has our great race become subordinate to the Chinese?

LOL your only posts in this forum seem to be attacking the China-Pakistan friendship.

Exactly the same modus operandi as the other Indian members here.

 

[tested]

Pakistani's still believing such reports.

Its so easy for Pakistani Army to rule over Pakistanis. They have literally zero intelligence.

For past few weeks, Pakistani establishment has foaming at their mouths about RAW s on a hourly basis, but are yet to present even a shred of evidence regarding Indian involvement with regards to terrorism in Pakistan.

Please don't ask logical questions.

Pakistan would not have been what it is now if Pakistanis ever had any logic and intelligence.

 

[PatriotLover]

LOL your only posts in this forum seem to be attacking the China-Pakistan friendship.

Exactly the same modus operandi as the other Indian members here.

And trying to fool Pakistanis by stopping me from telling the truth is your modus operandi. Posts like yours exposes your wrong intentions in Pakistan. Stop personal attacks and tell me where I am wrong?

1. Wont the majority skilled labour be Chinese? Why dont you train Pakistani engineers? So that in the future we can too build such infrastructures independantly?
2. Why is the port under Chinese ownership for 40 years? You keep saying investment for Pakistan, but how can we utilize the port? What can we export? Then only thing that remains is sole Chinese benefit.
3. If you are such friends why dont you help us buld our manufacturing base by building factories in Pakistan so that we could also use that port to export?

And if you spent sometime here you will see my other posts too. I would love to see Pakistan stand upto India, just that I dont want it to become a subordinate under China while doing so.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

And trying to fool Pakistanis by stopping me from telling the truth is your modus operandi. Posts like yours exposes your wrong intentions in Pakistan.

And if you spent sometime here you will see my other posts too. I would love to see Pakistan stand upto India, just that I dont want it to become a subordinate under China while doing so.

You Indians need to pretend better, instead of simply writing posts that have exactly the same content as your fellow Indian members. I.e. Crying about the China-Pakistan friendship.

 

[PatriotLover]

You Indians need to pretend better, instead of simply writing posts that have exactly the same content as your fellow Indian members. I.e. Crying about the China-Pakistan friendship.

And you Chinese need to pretend better because more and more Pakistanis are seeing thru your cunning and this makes you afraid.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

And you Chinese need to pretend better because more and more Pakistanis are seeing thru your cunning and this makes you afraid.

Apparently it's only you Indians who think so, but keep crying about the China-Pakistan relationship more and more, as per usual. You even cry about us helping Pakistan get nuclear weapons, now you are crying about us giving nuclear reactors and AIP submarines (which can fire nuclear-tipped cruise missiles) to them as well.

Basically anything good we give to them, you Indians cry about it.

@Horus another Indian false-flagger pretending to be a Pakistani here. Read any of his other posts.

 

[PatriotLover]

@Horus another Indian false-flagger pretending to be a Pakistani here. Read any of his other posts.

Surprisingly you are not the first Chinese callng me a false flag. Only Chinese do that. I post extensively in the Paksitani section, where everything is normal, but till now around 10 Chinese since one month have called out to Horus to block my views on this forum. Isnt it obvious something is wrong here.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Surprisingly you are not the first Chinese callng me a false flag. Only Chinese do that. I post extensively in the Paksitani section, where everything is normal, but till now around 10 Chinese have called out to Horus to block my views on this forum.

Keep crying Indian, we are providing nuclear reactors and AIP submarines to Pakistan as we speak.

 

[MULUBJA]

Give the Naxals nuclear backpax to use against New Delhi.

Naxal shall not use it agaisnt India. However if we do same in Xinxiang, they shall certainly do what you are intending on chinese soil itself.

 

[ashok mourya]

Army on rent,port on rent..what next on rent?

 

[PatriotLover]

Keep crying Indian, we are providing nuclear reactors and AIP submarines to Pakistan as we speak.

For somethings, I owe you my thanks.