RAW to downsize after overwhelming success in Pakistan

[wadi79]

A piece of satire, but it accurately conveys the absurdity of blaming RAW for everything that's going wrong in Pakistan today. As the RAW boss says in the spoof: “We don’t actually need too many employees, to be very honest,” he said. “Maybe just a few in-house data miners who can keep a record of all the things that we are pulling off in Pakistan. Because frankly, none of us has a f**king clue,”.

Khanna also thanked the Pakistani masses, especially those on social media, for making sure that the Indian government and the people are aware of RAW’s achievements and successes in operations that the intelligence agency only becomes aware of after they’re completed.

The point of this article is that as long as Pakistan continues to blame others for self-created problems, there isn't going to be any resolution. Meanwhile, looking at all that has gone wrong in Pakistan, RAW must have a budget running into tens of billions of dollars and tens of thousands of operatives just for this one country - which seems unlikely.


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New Delhi: Rejoicing in unprecedented fulfilment of objectives, Indian intelligence agency Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) has expressed satisfaction over overwhelming success in operations that it had got nothing to with. Addressing a press conference RAW Chief Rajinder Khanna said that he was satisfied with the progress of the intelligence agency, especially in cross-border operations that no one in the agency had any idea about.

“It makes me look good,” he said while talking to the media. “I mean the places and people we target sometimes have names that I personally haven’t ever heard of,” he added.

Khanna continued: “Sometimes the resources and manpower needed to complete the number of jobs that we manage to pull off is actually more than what the entire agency has at its disposal. Our efficiency is about 5500% in Pakistan.”

The RAW chief further revealed that even though RAW employees, especially those working in Pakistan, have been getting hefty bonuses, it might be time to downsize.

“We don’t actually need too many employees, to be very honest,” he said. “Maybe just a few in-house data miners who can keep a record of all the things that we are pulling off in Pakistan. Because frankly, none of us has a f**king clue,” he added.

Khanna also appreciated the work of Islamist voluntary workers.

“They’re not even looking for compensation,” the RAW chief said of the Islamist militants. “I mean yes, we have considered funding Islamists in Pakistan over the past decades. But they never needed any money. I haven’t seen anyone as self-motivated,” he claimed.

He claimed that RAW’s business model is as successful as any organisation, let alone intelligence agency, has ever been.

“Mossad, and maybe CIA, comes close. But we’re ahead by a country mile,” he said.

Khanna also thanked the Pakistani masses, especially those on social media, for making sure that the Indian government and the people are aware of RAW’s achievements and successes in operations that the intelligence agency only becomes aware of after they’re completed.

 

[Shamain]

Raw is gonna be a thing of past quite soon. they are going to get as rare as bustard birds.

 

[graphican]

source: khabaristantimes.com

its a blog.

 

[magudi]

 

[Agni-5]

lol nice 1

 

[Nicky G]

Its good actually, could have expanded a bit more and made more points. The business model bit was funny though.

He claimed that RAW’s business model is as successful as any organisation, let alone intelligence agency, has ever been.

“Mossad, and maybe CIA, comes close. But we’re ahead by a country mile,” he said.

The other agencies don't come close. Those poor guys have to actually do something, RAW seems to get credit without lifting a finger.

 

[Gandhi follower]

Hahahahaha.... Superb

 

[thesolar65]

Now RAW officers will demand a 7th or 8th pay commission hike!!

 

[SamantK]

 

[RiazHaq]

Haq's Musings: Ex Indian Spy Documents RAW's Successes in Pakistan

Are Pakistan's allegations against RAW mere conspiracy theories? Are all of Pakistan's problems today entirely of its own making? Is RAW just a dis-interested spectator of the grisly drama being played out in Pakistan?


Let's try and answer these questions by looking at the history of the Indian spy agency and its successes claimed by retired Indian intelligence officer RK Yadav in his 2014 book "Mission R&AW". Although the book cites some of RAW's actions in China (Tibet), Sikkim (annexation) and Sri Lanka (creation and support of LTTE), most of it is devoted to Indian agents' accomplishments in destabilizing and disintegrating Pakistan.
Yadav's Book:
Here are some of the key Pakistan-related excerpts from Yadav's book:
On Pakhtunistan Page 21:
" Wali Khan (son of Abdul Ghaffar Khan aka Bacha Khan) wanted moral, political and other support from Mrs. Indira Gandhi. R.N. Kao sent hs deputy Sankaran Nair to negotiate as the Indian representative. Since Pakistan embassy was keeping watch on the movements of Wali Khan, the rendezvous was shifted to Sweden where Nair and another R&AW man of Indian mission I.S. Hassanwalia met Wali Khan. Subsequently all sorts of support was given to Wali Khan by the Indian Government till 1977 when Indira Gandhi lost election". On Agartala Conspiracy Page 197:
"In view of the disclosures of S.K. Nair, it is evidently true that Mujib was implicated in the Agartala Conspiracy case at the instance of Pakistan Government. However, it is also true that other accused in this case were certainly agents of Intelligence Bureau (IB) in India"
On Fokker Hijacking in Srinagar Page 227:There was an agent of R&AW-Hashim Qureshi in Srinagar.......R&AW persuaded Hashim Qureshi to work for them.....After the plan was given final shape, on January 30, 1971, Hashim Qureshi along with another operative Ashraf Qureshi, his relative, was allowed to hijack a Fokker Friendship plane Ganga of Indian Airlines with 26 passengers on board, to take the plane to Lahore airport. R&AW allowed him to carry a grenade and a toy pistol inside the plane. Pakisani authorities at Lahore airport allowed the plane to land when they were informed that it had been hijacked by National Liberation Front activist militants of Pakistan Occupied Kashmir. All India Radio soon made broadcast of this hijacking and the whole world was informed that the Pakistan Government was behind this hijacking...The incident overtly gave India the right opportunity which was planned by R.N. Kao, to cancel the flights of Pakistan over its territory which hampered the plans of Yahya Khan to send its troops by air to curb the political movement of Mujib in East Pakistan. On Mukti Bahini Page 231:
Since the Indian Army was not prepared and well-equipped for an immediate army action at that point (March 1971), it was planned to raise and train a guerrilla outfit of the Bengali refugees of East Pakistan by R&AW which would harass the Pakistan Army till the Indian Army would be ready for the final assault to the liberation of East Pakistan. She (Indira Gandhi) then asked R.N. Kao, Chief of R&AW, to prepare all possible grounds for the army for its final assault when the clearance from General Maneckshaw was received for its readiness for the war.
On 3 RAW created Forces (Mujeeb Bahini, Special Frontier Force (SFF) and Kader Bahini Page 242:
"..He (Kader Siddiqui aka Tiger Siddiqui) was the main operative of R&AW in the most vital areas of strategic operation around Dacca... Kader Bahini played havoc with the communication system of the army (Pakistani), ambushed enemy columns, blew up supply and ammunition dumps and assaulted a number of enemy convoys.....all these three guerrilla outfits created by R&AW with the help of BSF and the (Indian) army proved a vital force .. "
Obviously, the author is silent on India's current activities against Pakistan, particularly its covert war being waged from Afghanistan through its agents who have infiltrated Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA).
Ajit Doval Speech:
For clues as to what Indian spooks are up to now, let's watch the video of a 2013 speech by Ajit Doval delivered before he was appointed by Indian Prime Minister Modi as his National Security Advisor (NSA). Here are a few snippets from Doval's lecture at Sastra University in Tamil Nadu:
"How do we tackle Pakistan? .. You make it difficult for them (Pakistan) to manage their internal security... Pakistan's vulnerability is many many times higher than India's....Taliban have beheaded 23 of their (Pakistani) soldiers...funding can be countered by giving more funds...more than one-and-a-half times the funding they have available and they'll be yours..the Taliban are mercenaries...go for more of a covert thing"

Pakistan's Narrative:
Is India responsible for all that is wrong with Pakistan today? Obviously not; however, its spies are promoting and exploiting the ethnic, regional, religious and sectarian fault lines that exist in Pakistan. RAW is instigating and thriving on the chaos gripping the Islamic Republic.
Pakistan's response to its problems of growing violence has to be comprehensive; it needs to deal with both internal and external causes.
It has to develop and promote a powerful counter narrative to appeal to misguided young men who are drawn to the militants making references to the Quran and the Hadith as part of their call to violence. The counter narrative has to explain the basics; it has to be based on the Quranic verses proclaiming Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) as Rehmat ul lil Alameen (Blessing to the worlds); it has to explain Misaq e Madina, the constitution of the first real Islamic State established by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in Madina.
"This is a document from Muhammad the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace), governing relations between the Believers i.e. Muslims of Quraysh and Yathrib and those who followed them and worked hard with them. They form one nation -- Ummah."
It clearly says that all citizens of "Yathrib" (ancient name of Madina), regardless of their tribe or religion, are part of one nation--"Ummah". So the word "Ummah" here does not exclude non-Muslims.
Further into the "Misaq" document, it says: "No Jew will be wronged for being a Jew. The enemies of the Jews who follow us will not be helped. If anyone attacks anyone who is a party to this Pact the other must come to his help."
The Misaq assures equal protection to all citizens of Madina, including non-Muslim tribes which agreed to it. The contents of Misaq-e-Madina, Islam's first constitution approved by Prophet Mohammad 1400 years ago, appear to have inspired Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah vision of Pakistan where people of all religions and nationalities live in harmony with equal rights and protections under the law.
Counter-Intelligence Ops, Afghanistan:
Internal efforts alone will not succeed; Pakistan also has to mount a serious counter-intelligence challenge to blunt RAW's efforts to destabilize and disintegrate Pakistan. Pakistan has to try and stabilize Afghanistan to deny India what former US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel described as "India's second front against Pakistan".
Advice to India:
The best and most sane advice that can be offered India now is to think of the consequences of its actions in destabilizing its neighbor; particularly the fact that it s a large nuclear-armed country with a population approaching 200 million. India may find some short-term satisfaction by inflicting huge damage to its neighbor. But what if it leads to Pakistan becoming a REALLY failed state triggering a massive refugee problem along India's long border? What if the India-funded groups like TTP and BLA actually succeed in defeating the Pakistani military? What would that do to India? What if it triggers an unintended devastating nuclear war? I hope saner minds will prevail in New Delhi to prevent a major human catastrophe in South Asia.


Haq's Musings: Ex Indian Spy Documents RAW's Successes in Pakistan

 

[Sky lord]

HAHA very nice, actually they are right, RAW itself along with most Indians come to know of our amazing spy agency through leaks to the Pakistani press. RAW is very good.

 

[Harisudan]

Advice to India:
The best and most sane advice that can be offered India now is to think of the consequences of its actions in destabilizing its neighbor; particularly the fact that it s a large nuclear-armed country with a population approaching 200 million. India may find some short-term satisfaction by inflicting huge damage to its neighbor. But what if it leads to Pakistan becoming a REALLY failed state triggering a massive refugee problem along India's long border? What if the India-funded groups like TTP and BLA actually succeed in defeating the Pakistani military? What would that do to India? What if it triggers an unintended devastating nuclear war? I hope saner minds will prevail in New Delhi to prevent a major human catastrophe in South Asia.

As if the threat of Nuclear attack is not a reality now.. Heck in every skirmish between the two nations, we never fail to hear a threat from any of their minister or tri forces chief about nuking India.. It goes like this,
1. In kargil war, Pakistani sponsored terrorists occupied Indian territory and caused heavy damage, when Indian Army retaliated, what did we hear.? - America stopped Pakistan from nuking India or The day Pakistan came closer than an Inch from Nuking India..
2. When India comes up with cold start doctrine or any other conventional Military advancement, then what do we hear from their elites.? - "They can build whatever they want but even a conventional attack from India will be met with Nuclear response."
3. When Terrorists attacked Mumbai and India was weeping for its victims, Pakistani media and its Army General says, "If india wages a war on Pakistan as a resonse, we won't hesitate to Nuke them "

History taught us that more than Ballot, guns have a say in Pakistani politics, because more than half the time after their partition, they are ruled by Fanatic Military generals..So, from the above examples, it is pretty obvious that the Nuclear threat is very real as long as Pakistan exist as a state.. Indian Strategic planners and intelligence agencies have already established SOPs on how to tackle your Nukes, if a war becomes imminent..
Considering the above said facts, Pakistan's advice in the above article seems to be lacking the realistic threat perception that India is facing.. And from an Indian's point of view Nukes falling into the hands of radical elements is even better because, they can be tackled with so many other options, such as Dollars, Separate state for them to rule etc which wont be a bad offer for them to refuse..
P.S - I just offered a View point, I'm not stressing that, Pakistan should fail.. Atleast for the sake of Millions of Innocent people living there, it should prosper as a country.. But hatred and war mongering towards India Should stop. That's it.. And if it doesn't stop then the options available will be something like I said above.. @gslv mk3 @Abingdonboy @rational @he-man what do you guys think??

 

[Arsalan mehmud]

Haq's Musings: Ex Indian Spy Documents RAW's Successes in Pakistan

Are Pakistan's allegations against RAW mere conspiracy theories? Are all of Pakistan's problems today entirely of its own making? Is RAW just a dis-interested spectator of the grisly drama being played out in Pakistan?


Let's try and answer these questions by looking at the history of the Indian spy agency and its successes claimed by retired Indian intelligence officer RK Yadav in his 2014 book "Mission R&AW". Although the book cites some of RAW's actions in China (Tibet), Sikkim (annexation) and Sri Lanka (creation and support of LTTE), most of it is devoted to Indian agents' accomplishments in destabilizing and disintegrating Pakistan.
Yadav's Book:
Here are some of the key Pakistan-related excerpts from Yadav's book:
On Pakhtunistan Page 21:
" Wali Khan (son of Abdul Ghaffar Khan aka Bacha Khan) wanted moral, political and other support from Mrs. Indira Gandhi. R.N. Kao sent hs deputy Sankaran Nair to negotiate as the Indian representative. Since Pakistan embassy was keeping watch on the movements of Wali Khan, the rendezvous was shifted to Sweden where Nair and another R&AW man of Indian mission I.S. Hassanwalia met Wali Khan. Subsequently all sorts of support was given to Wali Khan by the Indian Government till 1977 when Indira Gandhi lost election". On Agartala Conspiracy Page 197:
"In view of the disclosures of S.K. Nair, it is evidently true that Mujib was implicated in the Agartala Conspiracy case at the instance of Pakistan Government. However, it is also true that other accused in this case were certainly agents of Intelligence Bureau (IB) in India"
On Fokker Hijacking in Srinagar Page 227:There was an agent of R&AW-Hashim Qureshi in Srinagar.......R&AW persuaded Hashim Qureshi to work for them.....After the plan was given final shape, on January 30, 1971, Hashim Qureshi along with another operative Ashraf Qureshi, his relative, was allowed to hijack a Fokker Friendship plane Ganga of Indian Airlines with 26 passengers on board, to take the plane to Lahore airport. R&AW allowed him to carry a grenade and a toy pistol inside the plane. Pakisani authorities at Lahore airport allowed the plane to land when they were informed that it had been hijacked by National Liberation Front activist militants of Pakistan Occupied Kashmir. All India Radio soon made broadcast of this hijacking and the whole world was informed that the Pakistan Government was behind this hijacking...The incident overtly gave India the right opportunity which was planned by R.N. Kao, to cancel the flights of Pakistan over its territory which hampered the plans of Yahya Khan to send its troops by air to curb the political movement of Mujib in East Pakistan. On Mukti Bahini Page 231:
Since the Indian Army was not prepared and well-equipped for an immediate army action at that point (March 1971), it was planned to raise and train a guerrilla outfit of the Bengali refugees of East Pakistan by R&AW which would harass the Pakistan Army till the Indian Army would be ready for the final assault to the liberation of East Pakistan. She (Indira Gandhi) then asked R.N. Kao, Chief of R&AW, to prepare all possible grounds for the army for its final assault when the clearance from General Maneckshaw was received for its readiness for the war.
On 3 RAW created Forces (Mujeeb Bahini, Special Frontier Force (SFF) and Kader Bahini Page 242:
"..He (Kader Siddiqui aka Tiger Siddiqui) was the main operative of R&AW in the most vital areas of strategic operation around Dacca... Kader Bahini played havoc with the communication system of the army (Pakistani), ambushed enemy columns, blew up supply and ammunition dumps and assaulted a number of enemy convoys.....all these three guerrilla outfits created by R&AW with the help of BSF and the (Indian) army proved a vital force .. "
Obviously, the author is silent on India's current activities against Pakistan, particularly its covert war being waged from Afghanistan through its agents who have infiltrated Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA).
Ajit Doval Speech:
For clues as to what Indian spooks are up to now, let's watch the video of a 2013 speech by Ajit Doval delivered before he was appointed by Indian Prime Minister Modi as his National Security Advisor (NSA). Here are a few snippets from Doval's lecture at Sastra University in Tamil Nadu:
"How do we tackle Pakistan? .. You make it difficult for them (Pakistan) to manage their internal security... Pakistan's vulnerability is many many times higher than India's....Taliban have beheaded 23 of their (Pakistani) soldiers...funding can be countered by giving more funds...more than one-and-a-half times the funding they have available and they'll be yours..the Taliban are mercenaries...go for more of a covert thing"

Pakistan's Narrative:
Is India responsible for all that is wrong with Pakistan today? Obviously not; however, its spies are promoting and exploiting the ethnic, regional, religious and sectarian fault lines that exist in Pakistan. RAW is instigating and thriving on the chaos gripping the Islamic Republic.
Pakistan's response to its problems of growing violence has to be comprehensive; it needs to deal with both internal and external causes.
It has to develop and promote a powerful counter narrative to appeal to misguided young men who are drawn to the militants making references to the Quran and the Hadith as part of their call to violence. The counter narrative has to explain the basics; it has to be based on the Quranic verses proclaiming Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) as Rehmat ul lil Alameen (Blessing to the worlds); it has to explain Misaq e Madina, the constitution of the first real Islamic State established by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in Madina.
"This is a document from Muhammad the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace), governing relations between the Believers i.e. Muslims of Quraysh and Yathrib and those who followed them and worked hard with them. They form one nation -- Ummah."
It clearly says that all citizens of "Yathrib" (ancient name of Madina), regardless of their tribe or religion, are part of one nation--"Ummah". So the word "Ummah" here does not exclude non-Muslims.
Further into the "Misaq" document, it says: "No Jew will be wronged for being a Jew. The enemies of the Jews who follow us will not be helped. If anyone attacks anyone who is a party to this Pact the other must come to his help."
The Misaq assures equal protection to all citizens of Madina, including non-Muslim tribes which agreed to it. The contents of Misaq-e-Madina, Islam's first constitution approved by Prophet Mohammad 1400 years ago, appear to have inspired Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah vision of Pakistan where people of all religions and nationalities live in harmony with equal rights and protections under the law.
Counter-Intelligence Ops, Afghanistan:
Internal efforts alone will not succeed; Pakistan also has to mount a serious counter-intelligence challenge to blunt RAW's efforts to destabilize and disintegrate Pakistan. Pakistan has to try and stabilize Afghanistan to deny India what former US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel described as "India's second front against Pakistan".
Advice to India:
The best and most sane advice that can be offered India now is to think of the consequences of its actions in destabilizing its neighbor; particularly the fact that it s a large nuclear-armed country with a population approaching 200 million. India may find some short-term satisfaction by inflicting huge damage to its neighbor. But what if it leads to Pakistan becoming a REALLY failed state triggering a massive refugee problem along India's long border? What if the India-funded groups like TTP and BLA actually succeed in defeating the Pakistani military? What would that do to India? What if it triggers an unintended devastating nuclear war? I hope saner minds will prevail in New Delhi to prevent a major human catastrophe in South Asia.


Haq's Musings: Ex Indian Spy Documents RAW's Successes in Pakistan

Nice summary sirji..

As if the threat of Nuclear attack is not a reality now.. Heck in every skirmish between the two nations, we never fail to hear a threat from any of their minister or tri forces chief about nuking India.. It goes like this,
1. In kargil war, Pakistani sponsored terrorists occupied Indian territory and caused heavy damage, when Indian Army retaliated, what did we hear.? - America stopped Pakistan from nuking India or The day Pakistan came closer than an Inch from Nuking India..
2. When India comes up with cold start doctrine or any other conventional Military advancement, then what do we hear from their elites.? - "They can build whatever they want but even a conventional attack from India will be met with Nuclear response."
3. When Terrorists attacked Mumbai and India was weeping for its victims, Pakistani media and its Army General says, "If india wages a war on Pakistan as a resonse, we won't hesitate to Nuke them "

History taught us that more than Ballot, guns have a say in Pakistani politics, because more than half the time after their partition, they are ruled by Fanatic Military generals..So, from the above examples, it is pretty obvious that the Nuclear threat is very real as long as Pakistan exist as a state.. Indian Strategic planners and intelligence agencies have already established SOPs on how to tackle your Nukes, if a war becomes imminent..
Considering the above said facts, Pakistan's advice in the above article seems to be lacking the realistic threat perception that India is facing.. And from an Indian's point of view Nukes falling into the hands of radical elements is even better because, they can be tackled with so many other options, such as Dollars, Separate state for them to rule etc which wont be a bad offer for them to refuse..
P.S - I just offered a View point, I'm not stressing that, Pakistan should fail.. Atleast for the sake of Millions of Innocent people living there, it should prosper as a country.. But hatred and war mongering towards India Should stop. That's it.. And if it doesn't stop then the options available will be something like I said above.. @gslv mk3 @Abingdonboy @rational @he-man what do you guys think??

We have seen Indian Nautanki always.. Carrying false operation into its soil and blaming it to pakistan...

1. Plane hijack - January 30, 1971.
2. Islamic fundamentalist group called Al Faran kidnapped six foreign tourists, including two Americans, in Kashmir. 1995
3. Parliament Attack 2001.
4. Mumbai Attack 2008.

These all attack were carried by RAW to defame Pakistan and achieve certain motives and they achieved also.
Only truth can make us safe. We should be aware of our enemy intention.

 

[Pulsar]

High time the ISI learns a thing or two from their superiors - the Research and Analysis Wing!

 

[Harisudan]

Nice summary sirji..


We have seen Indian Nautanki always.. Carrying false operation into its soil and blaming it to pakistan...

1. Plane hijack - January 30, 1971.
2. Islamic fundamentalist group called Al Faran kidnapped six foreign tourists, including two Americans, in Kashmir. 1995
3. Parliament Attack 2001.
4. Mumbai Attack 2008.

These all attack were carried by RAW to defame Pakistan and achieve certain motives and they achieved also.
Only truth can make us safe. We should be aware of our enemy intention.

As long as you keep believing those blasphemies , TTP will happen in your soil, because there is an old saying, and it goes like this
" You reap what you sow " ..we all know what you sowed to destabilize India, and Now you are reaping the fruit of it..