'Rationalists' hold Mangalsutra removal function in Chennai

[Rau]

I invite Dravidar Kazhagam - the organization which is committed to promoting the ideology of rationalist leader Periyar, to remove this symbol of a woman's enslavery.

I hope the "rationalists" are not found wanting in courage

How dare you called it women enslavement...they are wearing it by there wish...nobody forcing them ...you Hindu Extremist....

 

[uparyupari]

How dare you called it women enslavement...they are wearing it by there wish...nobody forcing them ...you Hindu Extremist....

Actually I am not calling it women enslavement. For an ugly women, it is actually empowerment. But that is besides the point.

Those women were wearing the mangalsutra as per their own wish too. How is this any different ?

 

[Sneaker]

you didn't read my earlier post ( #7 ) about why they should not wear it.

'Rationalists' hold Mangalsutra removal function in Chennai

Those aren't reasons for "not to wear". Sure, one can decide on her own but "not wearing" can't be mandated due to those reasons.

 

[Rau]

Actually I am not calling it women enslavement. For an ugly women, it is actually empowerment. But that is besides the point.

Those women were wearing the mangalsutra as per their own wish too. How is this any different ?

really I dont know..ask them ... ask from my side ..what is relation between Beef ban in Maharashtra is related to removing Mangalsutra in Chennai....

 

[jamahir]

Those aren't reasons for "not to wear". Sure, one can decide on her own but "not wearing" can't be mandated due to those reasons.

well, islam has no such "symbol for the married female" and the reasons i gave are those i extrapolated and they are based in common sense.

 

[Sneaker]

well, islam has no such "symbol for the married female" and the reasons i gave are those i extrapolated and they are based in common sense.

There is no reason to take any religion as base for anything. It can also be extrapolated that every girl needs to wear mangalsutra based on islamic practice of burkha...so, it doesn't make any sense...

 

[jamahir]

There is no reason to take any religion as base for anything.

agreed.

but...

It can also be extrapolated that every girl needs to wear mangalsutra based on islamic practice of burkha

neither burqa is part of islam nor is "symbol for married female"... so how??

 

[Sneaker]

agreed.

but...



neither burqa is part of islam nor is "symbol for married female"... so how??

By the same logic, mangalsutra is neither part of hinduism nor symbol of married female. Thats how.. just google about it...

 

[jamahir]

By the same logic, mangalsutra is neither part of hinduism nor symbol of married female. Thats how.. just google about it...

right... so there should be no opposition to this event in madras then,

 

[magudi]

this is a mixed things... many hindus question old old beliefs and customs or discard them outright, but many of the hindu young are bringing back wrong traditional things that had been discarded in the socialist fervor and modernization of previous decades... think of how many young software engineers or finance people attend sri sri ravishankar's yoga sessions.

tell me, could the film industries have been started in these moralistic/religious times in india??

you've got a point but it's not just young gen hindus who are turning more religious these days

In recent years when I visit my native place i see the burqa clad everywhere like there's no end to it this was clearly not the case a decade or two ago where someone from outside wouldn't even realise it's a Muslim majority area. Then there's this irritating 24x7 morality preaching while the noise from loud speakers were confined to only Azan calls during my childhood days. And mind you am talking about one of the most literate and well off muslim communities of nation here (read kerala) -.

 

[jamahir]

In recent years when I visit my native place i see the burqa clad everywhere like there's no end to it

which is why i posted this on page 2...

indian muslim females in the 60's...

typical indian muslim females now...

this was clearly not the case a decade or two ago where someone from outside wouldn't even realise it's a Muslim majority area.

this too i have saying on pdf... even among my relatives, none wore burqa twenty years ago but now many do.

and why just in india... if you read fatima bhutto's "songs of blood and sword", she mentions that the time her grandfather ( zulfiqar, a sunni ) married a shia irani, there were not many burqa to be seen in pakistan... though i must say, now burqa is more prevalent in india than in pakistan.

Then there's this irritating 24x7 morality preaching while the noise from loud speakers were confined to only Azan calls during my childhood days. And mind you am talking about one of the most literate and well off muslim communities of nation here (read kerala) -.

i suppose kerala is a worse case now, along with bangalore, hyderabad, uttar pradesh and madhya pradesh ( bhopal ).

where i live, there is no all 24x7 morality preaching but certainly the full friday prayers are put on loudspeaker and during festival prayers too... this is other than azaan.

twenty years ago, there were not too many mosques but now there are 300,000+ mosques in india, the highest in the world... some years ago, a government website ( indian tourism ) gave the mosque count as 100,000+... so it is a increase of 200,000 mosques in just a few years.

i believe, jamal abdul nasser had banned loudspeakers in egypt for a while... well, there was no such muslim leader in india in those days or even now ( unless i get a chance ).

in these days of most people keeping cell phones, azaan should be sent as sms... it will reduce noise and will help muslims claim that they want other communities to reduce their religious noise.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

So Dravidar Kazhagam, when are you holding Burqa removing ceremony ??

These kind of progressives will do their own credibility a huge favor if they replicate such stuff across all religions.

Picking on one religion (which is mostly tolerant or even indifferent) just to show their progressive side will only get them called out for their hypocrisy.

 

[friendly_troll96]

Actually, we were born naked and will die naked. These clothes are a bane for humans and causes a lots of misery!! I want to hold a ******removal demonstration!! Any one to come with me??

Going naturist is awesome, count me in!

 

[kadamba-warrior]

right... so there should be no opposition to this event in madras then,

Again - by the same logic, there should be no opposition to burqa too, eh?

Certain customs in Hinduism are so old and so scantily documented that it is hard to tell what is mandated by the religion and what is merely a cultural aspect. The point is, I don't think there would have been any opposition if they had decided not to wear mangalsutra anymore privately instead of making a public function like this to mark the occasion - which is only seen as provocative. As it is, there are already a lot of women who don't wear mangalsutra anymore.

But then, that wouldn't have made the news splashes that they intended to.

 

[Sneaker]

right... so there should be no opposition to this event in madras then,

They should hold same event with christians and muslims too, like I said, "un-bruka-ing" cermony. My opposition is with hypocrisy.