Ratan Tata Was Humiliated by Ford, Reveals Colleague but took revenge

[my2cents]

Hi,

It was the perfect deal for Mr. Tata----. Ford wanted to off load it--- Mr. Tata wanted a foothold with a brand name and he snags a name like Jag and LR---so where is not the positive outlook here.

Both the parties are happy---. Indians can walk with pride now that an indian owns Jag and LR----and britishers are happy that at least the americans are out of Jag and LR---.

For Ford---these brands were pocket change---a sore issue and no recognition---for Mr. Tata---a world of a difference---I mean to say---just t own a brand name like that----.

So---from where did you get the idea of " no positive outlook on Indians "!

The haste Ford Motor company showed in off loading these iconic brands was something I was not able to understand at that time because they were just turning a new leaf with capturing new markets and able to revive the sales. In hindsight it was not so big loss to Ford but major gain for Tata.

 

[Icewolf]

He is right, the interiors of those cars are crap and confusing ... BMW is by far the best interior

 

[Beta-Fighter]

Range Rover/Land Rover is great. But for its price, the interiors are very cheap quality. Check Mercedes and BMW and even Acura (Honda) and you will know what I mean.

Everything has a price, the features available in Range Rover is available in Mercedes and BMW? Everything hs privide BMW / merc is on beauty while RG is on going everywhere.

Do you BMW/ Merc climb 45*? deep inside water ?

He is right, the interiors of those cars are crap and confusing ... BMW is by far the best interior

yea , that car go and climb mountains and run deep in water where as merc is ...lol price is not for interior , its for engine and technology.

Rang Rover designed to go where Merc / BMW failed ......

if you want interior then Check Jaguar interior and then compared with merc / BMW. I have to remind you every car/SUV designed for different purpose / segment.

 

[fallstuff]

Range Rover/Land Rover is great. But for its price, the interiors are very cheap quality. Check Mercedes and BMW and even Acura (Honda) and you will know what I mean.

There is nothing ordinary about these Range Rover SVR interiors. I have owned several BMWs ( I am a fan of BMW), but these interiors are very elegant

BMW 535i interior,

 

[MastanKhan]

The haste Ford Motor company showed in off loading these iconic brands was something I was not able to understand at that time because they were just turning a new leaf with capturing new markets and able to revive the sales. In hindsight it was not so big loss to Ford but major gain for Tata.

Hi,

I don't mean to be disrespectful-----Ford did not give a sh-it about Jag and LR----. For them it was good riddance---. Let it make money for someone else---their plate was full and over flowing---. They cared less about reviving british legacy----.

Off course it was gain for Tata---because from a cheap nano car producer---he suddenly becomes the owner of a world known luxury brand----.

From selling 3000 dollars car he is into selling a 100000 thousand dollar vehicle----a totally different clientale and a totally different image.

 

[Beta-Fighter]

Hi,

I don't mean to be disrespectful-----Ford did not give a sh-it about Jag and LR----. For them it was good riddance---. Let it make money for someone else---their plate was full and over flowing---. They cared less about reviving british legacy----.

Off course it was gain for Tata---because from a cheap nano car producer---he suddenly becomes the owner of a world known luxury brand----.

From selling 3000 dollars car he is into selling a 100000 thousand dollar vehicle----a totally different clientale and a totally different image.

Before Cheap Nano ( which is Modern Engineer Marvel) , Tata have made Indian First SUV - Safari .
Tata is known for its rugged Vehicles...

Having Jag and LR is every car's company dreams.

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There is nothing ordinary about these Range Rover SVR interiors. I have owned several BMWs ( I am a fan of BMW), but these interiors are very elegant

BMW 535i interior,

Stop comparing Apple and Orange, Do your BMW / Merc do run in water? dose it climb hill ?

 

[Donatello]

Hi,

The thing is---that Tata got something that would increase his image---and as it is Indian owned----there would be more Indian buyers for these vehicles---so a perfect match.

Ford got rid of something that it did not need. They already got enough tax write offs.

Americans just don't care for british cars----. Even though the Jag and LR sales has increased---but that is by default of better economy---it has not taken off like Audi or BMW or Mercedez.

I think it has to do more with their marketing and tactics....Jaguar never had the marketing effort of BMW/Mercedes and now Audi, even though they made excellent cars.

Land Rover makes great SUVs, and with the falling oil prices and wealth at an all time high, Range Rovers are cash cow for the company. Look at that pathetic joke of a vehicle-Range Rover evoque and that is still doing roaring sales.

If i had the money, i would rather buy a Range Rover/Range Rover Sport over a 80,000K Land Cruiser or swaggery Escalade. RRs interior is done very well.

 

[Dr Gupta]

Range Rover/Land Rover is great. But for its price, the interiors are very cheap quality. Check Mercedes and BMW and even Acura (Honda) and you will know what I mean.

you are joking right? the interior of a range rover beats anything BMW have to offer.

Land Rover Range Rover (13) Review | Parkers

Check the Parkers guide

BMW make boring, dull cars that have excellent engines but look crap!

Audi is better with the TT and R8 but Jags are much more pretty

 

[airmarshal]

you are joking right? the interior of a range rover beats anything BMW have to offer.

Land Rover Range Rover (13) Review | Parkers

Check the Parkers guide

BMW make boring, dull cars that have excellent engines but look crap!

Audi is better with the TT and R8 but Jags are much more pretty

Listen at 7:20 onwards, if you have ears.

This is the problem in every Land Rover - cheap, hard plastics. Sorry mate . If you have not sat in each of the cars I mentioned, you cant call the other boring and dull.

Land Rovers are great off road. No debating that. No other car can win them there.

 

[fallstuff]

Stop comparing Apple and Orange, Do your BMW / Merc do run in water? dose it climb hill ?

You are barking up the wrong tree buddy !!

 

[Dr Gupta]

Listen at 7:20 onwards, if you have ears.

This is the problem in every Land Rover - cheap, hard plastics. Sorry mate . If you have not sat in each of the cars I mentioned, you cant call the other boring and dull.

Land Rovers are great off road. No debating that. No other car can win them there.

Land Rover is not a Range Rover my friend!

The specs, build quality and prices are entirely different.

This is a Range

Range Rover interior | Autocar

it beats anything Germans have

When you take the sizeable upward step into the Range Rover’s cabin, seat yourself in the standard electrically adjustable, heated, cooled, massaging, leather-covered seats and take in the luxurious ambience of the surroundings, it’s hard not to be impressed.
The Range Rover’s leather looks like leather, its wood like wood and the metal like metal, while even the plastic and rubberised mouldings exude an impression of quality and luxury. The Range Rover has nothing to fear from any car costing less than £100,000 and little to fear from most cars even at well above that figure. In fact, from your lofty viewpoint you can even begin to understand why the Range Rover weighs as much as it does.

 

[Rocky25]

Hope there will be a day when Tata buys the whole Ford and raise Indian influence in Detroit!

 

[MastanKhan]

Land Rover is not a Range Rover my friend!

The specs, build quality and prices are entirely different.

This is a Range

Range Rover interior | Autocar

it beats anything Germans have

When you take the sizeable upward step into the Range Rover’s cabin, seat yourself in the standard electrically adjustable, heated, cooled, massaging, leather-covered seats and take in the luxurious ambience of the surroundings, it’s hard not to be impressed.
The Range Rover’s leather looks like leather, its wood like wood and the metal like metal, while even the plastic and rubberised mouldings exude an impression of quality and luxury. The Range Rover has nothing to fear from any car costing less than £100,000 and little to fear from most cars even at well above that figure. In fact, from your lofty viewpoint you can even begin to understand why the Range Rover weighs as much as it does.

Hi,

It seems like you are not an engineer------. A vehicle design and engineering is reflective of the character and personality of the nation designing it.

Now if the design center is taken to a different country and you give them an all out permission to do what they want----you get a 2009 Model of Acura TL---TSX---ZDX---a total failure----from the best design to the worst design---.

 

[Beta-Fighter]

Hi,

It seems like you are not an engineer------. A vehicle design and engineering is reflective of the character and personality of the nation designing it.

Now if the design center is taken to a different country and you give them an all out permission to do what they want----you get a 2009 Model of Acura TL---TSX---ZDX---a total failure----from the best design to the worst design---.

lol , Vehicle Design based of Following things
A) Intended purpose for
b) Cost of manufacturing

SUV designing Vs Sedan design is nothing to do with character. Even if Indian designed Tata Safari is made luxurious by changing the interior n few new features , it will increase the cost by 4 times, which make them unaffordable to masses.

if you are engineer , you should have know the Basic rules of engineering.

its look like you people comparing economy class vs premium class.

 

[MastanKhan]

lol , Vehicle Design based of Following things
A) Intended purpose for
b) Cost of manufacturing

SUV designing Vs Sedan design is nothing to do with character. Even if Indian designed Tata Safari is made luxurious by changing the interior n few new features , it will increase the cost by 4 times, which make them unaffordable to masses.

if you are engineer , you should have know the Basic rules of engineering.

its look like you people comparing economy class vs premium class.

Sir,

You are the absolutely dumbest indian that I have yet to meet, Character is not your KIRDAR but your personal traits that reflects on your design---. If you did not know that----dig your head deeper into engineering and find out---why different nations design the same thing differently---.

And if you did not understand what I was saying---you should have asked for an explanation---.

Germans----do you think they make their cars just what the need is----. Their cars reflect their personality--their character---and who they are----. How about the swedes---or the Japanese---or the americans---.

Ever worked on a Saab or a Volvo---or a Toyota or a Honda----or a Mustang---or a Camaro---or a Mercedes or a BMW----