Ratan Tata may be suffering from delusion: Amit Mitra

[GR!FF!N]

I willn't say that WB is flourishing with Industry,but I've other thing to ask.why Mr. Tata even bother to comment on it??he didn't budge about the proposal to make Nano Factory in 600 acres in WB.but he is fine to make it in Gujrat over 400 acres.in fact,he didn't gave up the Singur land yet.but he didn't utter a single word against commies(as he was getting free lands).shouldn't public question his intention over this remarks??

I'd say,Fkuc you Mr. Tata.either invest here(on given land,not the land you'll pick),or get your mouth shut.we've seen enough Salim-Tata (Nandigram Singur) mambo jumbo for years here.whatever hope was left in bengal,Singur Nandigram fiasco made our state completely paralyzed.no more of those nonsense..

 

[IndoCarib]

In a statement, Mr Tata said he "never spoke of industrial development" and called Dr Mitra's anger needless and surprising.

"Mr Mitra might believe I have lost my mind. I would be delighted if he could show me what industrial development projects I missed while driving through Rajarhat. If he cannot, then I would have to conclude that he has a very fertile imagination," said the 73-year-old Chairman Emeritus of the Tata Group.

Ratan Tata Hits Back After Mamata Government's 'Lost His Mind' Barb - NDTV

 

[Indrani]

Singur fiasco was a clear cut indication that when Mamata will come to power (which became quite obvious already then) there will be regressive drift against heavy industrialization. What more unfortunate is ministers like Amit Mitra too are speaking in an intolerant tone just as to follow his more intolerant leader. Their four years regime is nothing but a reminder of 70's Bengal when everything seemed to be halted and murky. I have stopped reading local news because of these bigots.

Wo, look at who is being judgmental and calling people bigots. Are you not supposed to be the source of milk of human kindness? What are you doing cussing Amit Mitra and Mamata didi.

Jai Bengal. Jai Mamata Banerjee. Jai Amit Mitra. Jai Tapas Pal. Jai communism. Jai Illegal Bangladeshi.

Jab tak suraj chand rahega Mamata tera naam rahega. Long live the queen.

@scorpionx

Mamata, Nitish aur Mulayam ko jo kar dega Tabah........Uss bande ka naam hai Amit Shah!!!

Chup kar, you will hurt the gentle Bengali heart with your bigotry.

 

[Lord ZeN]

Mamata Begum & her stoog are the one dullutional here.

 

[scorpionx]

Wo, look at who is being judgmental and calling people bigots. Are you not supposed to be the source of milk of human kindness? What are you doing cussing Amit Mitra and Mamata didi.

What is your point, to be precise?

 

[Indrani]

What is your point, to be precise?

Did you not make it amply clear in the other thread that you dislike being judgmental, i.e., you like dispensing with your judging capacity. So why are you judging Mamata and Amit Mitra now? Calling them names and cussing them. Should you not be loving Mamata and Amit Mitra without any bias and any malice in your heart. Pure and unconditional love that all Bengalis are capable of.

 

[Echo_419]

No new industries coming to bengal, major industries closing down, trade unions creating menace with life of common public, political leaders in petty cheat fund scams, police becoming minister's slave, infrastructure developments at its lowest, rapes, political murders...... Living in kolkata, I can only pity at the state's future

You forgot to mention Illegal BD pole Vaulters

 

[scorpionx]

Did you not make it amply clear in the other thread that you dislike being judgmental, i.e., you like dispensing with your judging capacity. So why are you judging Mamata and Amit Mitra now? Calling them names and cussing them. Should you not be loving Mamata and Amit Mitra without any bias and any malice in your heart. Pure and unconditional love that all Bengalis are capable of.

What yours and your friend's superior intellect could never fathom is there is stark difference between criticizing a government and putting the blame on an entire religious (specifically Muslim and Christian in your case) community. There is huge difference in blaming a minister for his moronic comments and putting every garbage on an entire ethnic (Bengali to be accurate) by you and your friend. Perhaps it is beyond your mental capacity to understand that the people you two usually venomously curse are the biggest critic about themselves in this forum. But blinded by prejudice, generalizing is what you two do day and night( I used hours in that post) on this forum.
There is zameen Aasmaan difference.

 

[shashikant]

Mamata Banerjee vs Ratan Tata: Why West Bengal ends up being the real loser | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis
Mamata Banerjee vs Ratan Tata:
Why West Bengal ends up being the
real loser
.
The bitter acrimony which started in
2007 between West Bengal chief
minister Mamata Banerjee and
industrialist Ratan Tata has found
its way back to the forefront. At the
time, Tata was forced to abandon
setting up shop in the state and
Mamata rode on the high of the
Singur and Nandigram agitation to
win an unprecedented mandate.
This time, an assessment by Ratan
Tata that the industry hasn't
developed in Bengal under Mamata's
rule has been the trigger of
confrontation. And Amit Mitra, the
industry and finance minister of
West Bengal is busy proxy fighting
for Banerjee calling Ratan Tata
"delusional"
.
On Wednesday, Ratan Tata
reportedly blamed the Singur
agitation for the failure of his Tata
Nano project. But just last year, he
had said poor marketing resulted
in the dismal performance of his
much touted car
. Still smarting from the massive loss
he had to face in Singur while
confronting the agitation lead by
Mamata Banerjee, looks like he
himself is confused about the true
reason why the Nano failed to create
a flutter in the market. His blunt
assessment of West Bengal's
industry is probably an outburst
from his deep seated anger about
the issue. Tata had recently heaped
lavish praise on Narendra Modi as a
“doer
”. But he has never criticised the
poor human development indices in
Gujarat or other lacunae the state
faces. So it looks like his personal
equation is having an effect on his
public assertion, something
unbecoming of a person of his
stature.
The Bengal government in its part
has also been extremely rigid with
land acquisition rules. Didi is still in
an agitation mode like she was in
the opposition. Thus, any criticism
or dissent is promptly quelled by
her. The deficits have steadily
increased and the industrialisation
is still laggard - something that
touches a raw nerve in the ruling
class of Bengal. Responding to Ratan
Tata's quip could have been avoided
by Mamata or her ministers. By
personally attacking Tata, TMC will
only attract negative publicity and
will increase scrutiny on the lack of
infrastructure and the poor economic
condition of the state. It will further
erode the already depleted “Brand
Bengal” Mamata prefers to boast
about.
But in the middle of all this, the
common people of Bengal are the
ones who end up getting a raw deal.
By raising rhetoric against Tata,
Mamata can further concentrate her
rural votes. Tata in any case will be
immune to all criticism. But Bengal's
status as a pariah state for
industrialists will increase further.
The best and the brightest will
continue to migrate out of the state
for jobs and livelihood. Politics will
triumph at the altar of common
sense.

 

[Indrani]

What yours and your friend's superior intellect could never fathom is there is stark difference between criticizing a government and putting the blame on an entire religious (specifically Muslim and Christian in your case) community. There is huge difference in blaming a minister for his moronic comments and putting every garbage on an entire ethnic (Bengali to be accurate) by you and your friend. Perhaps it is beyond your mental capacity to understand that the people you two usually venomously curse are the biggest critic about themselves in this forum. But blinded by prejudice, generalizing is what you two do day and night( I used hours in that post) on this forum.
There is zameen Aasmaan difference.

Oh no no no no no. Not so fast. We never criticized the entire community, be it Christians or Muslims or Bengalis. I do not like church the institution and what it does and the evangelicals and their attacks on Hinduism, but I have not much problem with other aspects of the community. Likewise, I can and do make distinction between the common Abdul on the street and the political leanings of the mosque and their community leaders and how it affects large segments of the community. I enormously like a whole lot of Saudi Arabian posters on this forum for their clarity of thought and integrity. So there is no blanket disapproval of either of these religious community as you claim. Coming to Bengalis, I have made a distinction between the vaishnavas Bengalis and people who write for Indiafacts, they are as Bengali as they come, but with a difference, and the ones with commie mindset like you.

It does get rather tedious when communicating to mention Christians, Muslims, and Bengalis with the caveat of the exceptions I want excluded all the time. So the reader is expected to understand that while the community is being targeted, it is by no means the entire community.

All I can see in your rebuttal is more intellectual dishonesty. You think the political culture in Bengal happened in a vacuum? That the Bengali as a people are innocent of what goes in their backyard? Are we not supposed to be in a democratic country where the will of the people is manifested every 5 years? You think the comment these leaders make are done without any understanding of the mindset of the people they claim to represent?

So you will blame a leader or two as if they alone are responsible for all the malaise in WB and be done with it (all the while claiming to be nonjudgmental in toto). Hey, that absolves the community completely from taking any blame whatsoever.

Oh so Bengali are their own greatest critics on this forum? If you really believed you are so flawed and so humble, then perhaps you would have held your tongue on other subject matters and not gone on to pontificate on the so called bigotry of other people or give sermons about secularism to everyone. Why, under that thin veneer of humility, I believe there lurks the most arrogant and opportunistic people one can come across which has appropriated the role of the moral arbiters of this nation for themselves.

 

[shashikant]

Chiding Ratan Tata will not make Bengal an industrial powerhouse | Times of India Opinion
.
Responding to Ratan Tata’s recent
observation that he did not see
much industrial development in
West Bengal, the state’s finance
minister Amit Mitra hit back by
saying that the Tata Group’s
chairman emeritus had lost his
mind. Mitra went on to rattle off the
names of companies that are willing
to invent in Bengal in the near
future. However, Mitra’s outburst is
unwarranted.
True, Bengal experienced a state
domestic product growth of 7.71% in
2013-14, but it continues to face
huge challenges in tackling
unemployment and poverty. It is a
fact that 33 years of Left-front rule
had ruined Bengal’s industries,
leading to an exodus of industrialists
and entrepreneurs from the state.
This was followed by successive
waves of outward migration of
Bengali youth seeking opportunities
and employment. All of this will take
time to reverse. The state
government certainly has its task cut
out in terms of transforming the
business environment of Bengal and
rolling back the years of pessimism.
In fact, I myself am a product of
Bengal’s industrial ruination over
the last three decades. My father
decided to leave Kolkata and move
to Delhi simply because the latter
offered better prospects in terms of
his career, thereby ensuring I grow
up to add to the ever-expanding
tribe of the Bengali Diaspora. Since
then, most of my cousins have left
Bengal and are currently employed
in other Indian cities or abroad. The
real marker of Bengal’s industrial
turnaround would be if the Bengali
youth return to their home state
from which they were forced to leave
in desperation.
This is no doubt a tall order and
one sympathises with the current
Trinamool regime in Bengal. That
said, having swept the Left out of
power in the state, Trianmool
appears to have fallen prey to its
own hubris. It views any criticism –
even constructive ones – as an
affront, choosing to see conspiracies
and phantoms where there are
none. It needs to be recalled that it
was a Trinamool-backed movement
that had driven Tata out of Singur.
If the party truly wants to win back
the confidence of India Inc it would
do well to focus on rebuilding
Bengal’s industrial base rather than
give in to porcupine-like reactions
when faced with criticism.

 

[dray]

I willn't say that WB is flourishing with Industry,but I've other thing to ask.why Mr. Tata even bother to comment on it??he didn't budge about the proposal to make Nano Factory in 600 acres in WB.but he is fine to make it in Gujrat over 400 acres.

As far as I know Gujrat also has allocated 1000 acres of land for the Tata plant.

in fact,he didn't gave up the Singur land yet.but he didn't utter a single word against commies(as he was getting free lands).shouldn't public question his intention over this remarks??

He got into an agreement with "The Government of West Bengal" to set up a factory, he invested money, when the factory was near completion; some people stopped all work there and started beating up workers, "The Government of West Bengal" failed to ensure adequate security or solution, Tata stopped work there permanently after repeated cry for help, and later they also clarified that they will return when the safety & security of their workers are ensured. Now, why should they just give back the land to "The Government of West Bengal" after investing so much money there? They did say they will consider it if they are adequately compensated, we may not like that, but if were a businessman answerable to my shareholders, I would have done the same.

And I am sure Tata will come back if the present "Government of West Bengal" ensures full safety & security of their workers and plant, after all they have their money stuck there, our CM can ask them once.

I'd say,Fkuc you Mr. Tata.either invest here(on given land,not the land you'll pick),or get your mouth shut.

Mr. Tata did invest here on the land given by "The Government of West Bengal", didn't he? He did have some preferences, and it is natural also when it is such a big business investment, even I had my list of preferences when I bought my little flat with my tint investment. The point is, "The Government of West Bengal" accepted Tata's preferences and went into an agreement with them, and later "The Government of West Bengal" backed out. Who broke the agreement here?

btw @GR!FF!N you can be absolutely sure that we have successfully fcuked Tata, cheers on that.

we've seen enough Salim-Tata (Nandigram Singur) mambo jumbo for years here.whatever hope was left in bengal,Singur Nandigram fiasco made our state completely paralyzed.no more of those nonsense..

And who created Singur-Nandigram fiasco fully knowing that this will make our state completely paralyzed? And what was the issue with Nayachar? Pakhiralay?

 

[wolfschanzze]

Bengals fate is what it is due to commies, TMC, muslim appeasement,illegal bangladeshis
and most of all the BHADRALOK Bengalis.

 

[Indrani]

Bengals fate is what it is due to commies, TMC, muslim appeasement,illegal bangladeshis
and most of all the BHADRALOK Bengalis.

LOL. Does that not cover just about the whole of the Bengali population?

 

[wolfschanzze]

LOL. Does that not cover just about the whole of the Bengali population?

LOL yes, but i put the blame on mostly BHADRALOK bengalis its because of them they let these elements creep up in bengal, earlier it was a place which produced freedom fighters, thinkers,saints.Now it produces Mamata(Mumtaz begum)
and illegal Bangladeshis they have brought this on themselves, they will soon be another kashmir driven out by illegal bangladeshis atleast Assamese people fight against such things, it seems bengalis have given up hope and their will to fight is extinguishe by pseudo secularism.

Recently a TMC mp was questioning why modi didnt didnt host iftar party and didnt wish EID mubarak when he went to perform puja at pashupathi nath temple in nepal and that TMC MP happens to be another Bhadralok kind.
With people such as these who needs enemies, they are digging their own hole, future will show it to be true as in kashmir.