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Rangers report on human rights violations in Karachi declared fake by Senate body

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Can you provide details for the NGO who made this report? The article says that it doesn't have an office in Pakistan. And one Pakistani reporter mentioned denied having any links to any such organization.

I think you should contact Ritumbra Manuvie, he/she is Indian correspondent for HRCSA.

Here, luckily you both are from the same state.

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Now please anything apart trolling.
 
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I thought Human Rights issue is the flavor of the month, if you can't be honest about such issues within your own country you have no right to point towards India.

Is the link for the Human Rights Commission on South Asia.
http://www.hrcsa.org/

Honest for what?
Rangers aint dumb enough to cause a ruckus especially handling the political mafia fiasco.
 
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PPP at it again and if there are any human right abuses being committed by Rangers than R.S should launch an investigation and punish those who're involved in such activities @The Eagle need your comments on this
@django @Zibago @Moonlight @PaklovesTurkiye
True bro, their needs to be a transparent investigation, and if any wrong doing has been proved then no one should be above law, their has to be stern consequences.Kudos
 
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what nonsense...everyone and his uncle knows that these "senator" positions were purchased and/or given as as patronage for criminal favors done to the criminals masquerading as politicians in pakistan. All these "Senators" are drug barons, qabza group, petty thugs, money launderers and outright criminals......they run their private prisons in sindh etc. they are in no position to "investigate" anything.....hope anticorruption campaign like china comes to pakistan and they hang the whole bloody lot......
 
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PPP at it again and if there are any human right abuses being committed by Rangers than R.S should launch an investigation and punish those who're involved in such activities @The Eagle need your comments on this
@django @Zibago @Moonlight @PaklovesTurkiye

Before going haywire, the one without clue has to understand the Ranger in Sindh that totally affected the approach of people since last anti-terrorists OP and interestingly, both PPPP and MQM are at hurt. Now look at the senate that who that comprises and most of them are PPP, MQM as well. The committee is just releasing the burden from chest to demonize the Rangers because without any difference from Karachi to every border of Sindh, Rangers have truly brought the terrorists and their supporters to justice. Anyone can understand the desperation in PPPP and MQM is because of Rangers achievements and disclosure of their corruption in Sindh.

Nobody every imagined that LEAs would be going to search the house of sitting Interior Minister including the residence of Murad Ali Shah which later announced as CM by PPPP. People need to understand that selecting Murad Ali Shah (PPPP) as CM and favouring the Wasim Akhtar (MQM) as city mayor is not that simple as innocent sees. PPPP, MQM, ANP and any other corrupt are widely exposed through this Karachi OP. Senate that exactly comprises of these corrupt to core people, would never ever accept anything in favour of Rangers at all. We all have access to news so just only look at Rangers extension drama in Karachi by PPPP since long on every expiry date of notification. The strategy to award the most corrupted and wanted with higher office is not new, just look at Zardari being President availed immunity from almost everything. Wasim Akhtar (MQM) charged with murders and killings, nominated for City Mayor for what but indeed immunity/political martyr/point scoring. Murad Ali Shah, tangled with Kharl arrest from his one of residence/possession was also about to be charged with supporting and helping the terrorists yet awarded with CMship of Sindh so what to expect. To name a sane and well reputed politician, I bet you will have to think for hours to find one.

Being desperate and exposed badly, such corrupt senate is not expected for something good but definitely will go beyond limits because of grudge and enmity. Except the very few members of Senate, most of them are involved in many cases including corruption etc. They are talking about clean chit, really, like nobody knows the torture cells of MQM and Liyari Gang War as well as these own Senators/waderas personal jails at interior Sindh. People like Kharl, Sharjeel Memon, Uzair Baloch, Dr. Asim, Wasim Akhtar and Ayan Ali are innocent but the one in uniform which is committed more to justice and brought back the life to Karachi is corrupt, I mean what more we have to see in our life. Faryal Talpur, sister of Zardari,

The thing is, Rangers brought back the lights and life of the Karachi and Sindh therefore such opposition as political corrupts cannot sell their beans anymore. Just imagine like, there is peace so who will require the arms and security but unrest and chaos is always good for such types of businesses especially politics. Mark my words, with respect to the anti-corruption stance from LEAs, people is sitting government and opposition, all are on the same page to oppose such departments. There is no damn opposition but a fake one to fool the people, indeed why a thief would ever want a foolproof security. NS and Zardari are just playing good cop bad cop thing and are just formally opposing each other otherwise they have agreed long ago to support because Mr. 10% is worried about the Swiss etc and NS is dying of latest leaks etc. Both are caught red handed and couldn't do anything. MQM doesn't need any introduction where it comes to the terrorism, extortion, riots and sectarian killings. I mean, even after all this, still people believe those that have no moral to be in such upper house. Let them try everything to bring back the Zardari, handover the Karachi to mass murderers and go-ahead for corruption to the people like Sharjeel Memon and Leaguees.
 
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Before going haywire, the one without clue has to understand the Ranger in Sindh that totally affected the approach of people since last anti-terrorists OP and interestingly, both PPPP and MQM are at hurt. Now look at the senate that who that comprises and most of them are PPP, MQM as well. The committee is just releasing the burden from chest to demonize the Rangers because without any difference from Karachi to every border of Sindh, Rangers have truly brought the terrorists and their supporters to justice. Anyone can understand the desperation in PPPP and MQM is because of Rangers achievements and disclosure of their corruption in Sindh.

Nobody every imagined that LEAs would be going to search the house of sitting Interior Minister including the residence of Murad Ali Shah which later announced as CM by PPPP. People need to understand that selecting Murad Ali Shah (PPPP) as CM and favouring the Wasim Akhtar (MQM) as city mayor is not that simple as innocent sees. PPPP, MQM, ANP and any other corrupt are widely exposed through this Karachi OP. Senate that exactly comprises of these corrupt to core people, would never ever accept anything in favour of Rangers at all. We all have access to news so just only look at Rangers extension drama in Karachi by PPPP since long on every expiry date of notification. The strategy to award the most corrupted and wanted with higher office is not new, just look at Zardari being President availed immunity from almost everything. Wasim Akhtar (MQM) charged with murders and killings, nominated for City Mayor for what but indeed immunity/political martyr/point scoring. Murad Ali Shah, tangled with Kharl arrest from his one of residence/possession was also about to be charged with supporting and helping the terrorists yet awarded with CMship of Sindh so what to expect. To name a sane and well reputed politician, I bet you will have to think for hours to find one.

Being desperate and exposed badly, such corrupt senate is not expected for something good but definitely will go beyond limits because of grudge and enmity. Except the very few members of Senate, most of them are involved in many cases including corruption etc. They are talking about clean chit, really, like nobody knows the torture cells of MQM and Liyari Gang War as well as these own Senators/waderas personal jails at interior Sindh. People like Kharl, Sharjeel Memon, Uzair Baloch, Dr. Asim, Wasim Akhtar and Ayan Ali are innocent but the one in uniform which is committed more to justice and brought back the life to Karachi is corrupt, I mean what more we have to see in our life. Faryal Talpur, sister of Zardari,

The thing is, Rangers brought back the lights and life of the Karachi and Sindh therefore such opposition as political corrupts cannot sell their beans anymore. Just imagine like, there is peace so who will require the arms and security but unrest and chaos is always good for such types of businesses especially politics. Mark my words, with respect to the anti-corruption stance from LEAs, people is sitting government and opposition, all are on the same page to oppose such departments. There is no damn opposition but a fake one to fool the people, indeed why a thief would ever want a foolproof security. NS and Zardari are just playing good cop bad cop thing and are just formally opposing each other otherwise they have agreed long ago to support because Mr. 10% is worried about the Swiss etc and NS is dying of latest leaks etc. Both are caught red handed and couldn't do anything. MQM doesn't need any introduction where it comes to the terrorism, extortion, riots and sectarian killings. I mean, even after all this, still people believe those that have no moral to be in such upper house. Let them try everything to bring back the Zardari, handover the Karachi to mass murderers and go-ahead for corruption to the people like Sharjeel Memon and Leaguees.
Excellent analysis :tup: one question we all know how much corruption there is in Karachi and we know it's gonna take many years to clean it do you think we will ever get rid of corruption from rest of the Sindh?

Like RS took action on an inocient man die in Rangers custody after a brutal and inhuman torture?
Who?
 
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do you think we will ever get rid of corruption from rest of the Sindh?

I can tell things only that I observe and see not through the media glass. I repeat, Media is one of the most effective tool to manipulate things so never believe what the media quotes alone. We are all involved in this economical terrorism though some to the most and few to the some extent.

I would say, in hopeful scenario as Yes for your valued query but it wouldn't be that easy while the few sees it that way. Corruption has more deeper roots in our society than education and awareness so we have to start with education and awareness thing and while looking at that from civilian point of view, we have started to move ahead in right direction thought the quantity of companions is less than the evils on this journey. From Government point of view, they will never let it happen or not to the extent the whole society will enjoy the fruits and departments like Rangers cannot do anything alone especially without support of people. Political elite is not serious at all unfortunately.

Actually problem is with the people and as soon as a common man realizes that no MPA or MNA can benefit me in person than the greater Pakistan for the whole nation. Irony is, on one hand people want peace yet never miss a chance to participate in their gatherings, rallies etc. The things are well set for the execution of no-corruption plan but the hurdle is corrupt political elite from the corner of north to the very south. Just a smallest example here, once Sharjeel Memon leaded the Aman walk in Karachi once in the peak days of unrest and you know what, 3 Millions were released from the finance of Government of Sindh for mere 10 minutes walk from 2 Talwar to 2 Talwar.

Things have started to move in right direction and may take time but me and I hope many others are hopeful for the change which may need sacrifices even of our own loved ones sitting in high offices. Yes it will end but could be done soon if people stop electing these killers, extortionists and murderers. Stakes are high this time, all I can say, not just Sindh people will see widespread of this change, later.
 
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the likelihood of trouble brewing in Karachi and Sindh seems high.

My friend, very unlikely or I must say, the least chances as well are fading away. The concern of such threat along with a sleeping virus in body of this province, firstly activated very well that helped us to pin point the exact target and then the cure started. The days are gone and the doubts if anyone have, is like watched old hatred speeches of Altaf Hussain because he and his evil ideology is also a done deal now as well as Liyari Gang War and ANP etc. The threat perception in city area was mostly utilized by MQM, ANP and PPPP and interior Sindh by mostly so-called ethnic groups, for political gain and to please the masters but the area of concern is addressed well though may take to total elimination but wouldn't rise again. I am not saying that the threat is countered totally but for the start, I would say, the snake is out of its hole and in open so with more efforts, will be crushed as well. Along with this snake (put exemplary for anti-Pakistan elements) the real thing was rats and moles but such low life creatures are almost out.

I will give you a little idea here, we did not go like what we did in 1992. This time read the situation, awareness of areas, intelligence gathering, targets highlighted and selected, made a team and plan executed that exactly these threats were not expecting at all, therefore, people were like are we loosing the Karachi but those were preparation times. One more thing, current DG ISI was previously DG Rangers here so you can see the results. Just to add-on here (not to blame but an interesting thing) Modi deliberately skipped the open invitation for help from MQM and Altaf Hussain in his last statement but came with only GB and Baluchistan because he knows the Karachi is done now and is worthless to beat it more, the time is gone though once it was as same as GB/Baluchistan interest in past.


I may be wrong

You could have been right during the days of rising chaos and unrest by Karachi that was jacked by above said parties but as per current situation, you must see the business activities, rise in property and trust for LEAs.

However, @PaklovesTurkiye can reply as quoted, I just came in being interested.
 
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Sindh rangers should storm the parliament and arrest senators..throw them in jail.
 
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At the risk of being labelled a troll @PaklovesTurkiye, the likelihood of trouble brewing in Karachi and Sindh seems high. I may be wrong.

:-)...Yes, very humbly, i will like to disagree with you...This is my lovely city and province. i live in Karachi and we, the people of Karachi, just spent twice amount of money we spent last year on independence day celebrations....

Sindh is calm too because Karachi is being at normal peace. When some people in Karachi, used to chant for having another province, rural Sindhis used to get angry with it but those people are no more in Karachi now and thus Sindh is at its own position...

Sindhis and Balochis have grown their presence enormously in army. Once upon a time, army was called as Punjabi army but not anymore...

Media has created so much awareness. Sindhis, may get harsh against Punjabis but not against Pakistan...Sindhis are very well integrated community and are considered peaceful people unless provoked.

Your prediction regarding India up ante the pressure on Pakistan in Karachi and Sindh can be right...Indians may try and who know, already trying but it is not at all gonna cause pain to Pakistanis because local population is hell against India....
 
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