Rangers murder young boy in Karachi

[Abu Zolfiqar]

It's the truth and it hurts. I cannot blindly support the Army because it's their mistakes that the innocent people of Pakistan are paying for.

kindly elaborate

 

[Karachiite]

kindly elaborate

What do you want me to elaborate on? PA have been playing everyone for a long time. On one hand they brag about killing hundreds of militants and on the other they mingle and protect terrorist groups. Who gave rise and support to Taliban in the first place? Majority of the budget is spent on these army folks while the poor public get nothing. How much of the budget for education and health?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

What do you want me to elaborate on? PA have been playing everyone for a long time. On one hand they brag about killing hundreds of militants and on the other they mingle and protect terrorist groups. Who gave rise and support to Taliban in the first place? Majority of the budget is spent on these army folks while the poor public get nothing. How much of the budget for education and health?

so now it is the Army who is in charge of the budgets.......


so it's the Army who made up these numbers completely....there are no extra reinforcements being constantly sent, despite resource contraints. The troops are all in the mess sipping Margaritas and enjoying themselves to the fullest!

 

[Xeric]

I was very well alive in the 90s. And this is not the first time these people have shown their colours. The military has failed Pakistan.

How about i say that you civilians have failed Pakistan? No? With sir 10% as the President, with almost every politician corrupt and with every bureaucrat a rascal, i think i should also have the right to blame each and every Pakistani and in turn the entire Pakistan, no? Is that how things work now a days at your office or home? Because to me this is absurd. i cant even blame the entire transportation service if one bus conductor has misbehaved with me, but here you can point fingers on the entire military and to top that you can also dare (or should i say, stupid) to use the terms (Rangers and Army) interchangeably. Believe me, it's not 'cool' to stick to ones mistake, but retarded. Accept the fact, you'll be respected.

I'm not blaming anyone but it's just the facts. It's not like I'm distorting the truth.

And this would mean that every officer, men, and trainee of Army, which has nothing to do with the current incident, which was not present at the venue, which was not in control of the event, which is headed by a different Ministry (the Defence Ministry) as opposed to the Interior Ministry that control Rangers is to be blamed for the killing of this guy, right?

How intelligent, sane and respectful!

P.S. No wonder you are getting shyt from all sides

 

[Xeric]

^^ And here comes the budget when a Ranger kills a man.

And i thought i have seen all kind of noobs.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

put un-diplomatically, Karachiite -- you have the bloody civilian administration to blame.

lets take a few steps back. What causes people to engage in theft in a city like Karachi (mobiles snatching, carjacking, ATM robberies etc.)? Who is responsible here for not just promoting law & order, but also maintaining some semblance of sound fiscal and economic policies that help steer an emerging market country like Pakistan out of the trouble it is facing?


or is that also Army job too?


i will ask you again, kindly elaborate your position on what you said in your last post.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

It's the truth and it hurts. I cannot blindly support the Army because it's their mistakes that the innocent people of Pakistan are paying for.

I am not asking you to support anyone blindly but do you blame every single soldier of Pakistan army or only few Generals who made some wrong decisions. I also criticised musharraf in his war on terror but that don't mean i should start bashing the whole institution of Pakistan army because Army did not belong to MUsharraf

 

[Karachiite]

How about i say that you civilians have failed Pakistan? No? With sir 10% as the President, with almost every politician corrupt and with every bureaucrat a rascal, i think i should also have the right to blame each and every Pakistani and in turn the entire Pakistan, no? Is that how things work now a days at your office or home? Because to me this is absurd. i cant even blame the entire transportation service if one bus conductor has misbehaved with me, but here you can point fingers on the entire military and to top that you can also dare (or should i say, stupid) to use the terms (Rangers and Army) interchangeably. Believe me, it's not 'cool' to stick to ones mistake, but retarded. Accept the fact, you'll be respected.

Yeah majority of Pakistanis that voted for PPP and PML-N in the past have failed Pakistan too. Everyone has failed Pakistan. People who blindly support the army have failed Pakistan too.

Unfortunately your mistaken if you think only one or two people in the Army are bad. Now I respect the common soldier who is in PA to protect the country but right now Im pointing fingers at the top generals and think tanks. I know the whole army isn't bad but the people that are bad which includes all the top men are brining a stain to the whole army. Now you people do the same thing America. If Bush or Obama is bad you people blame the whole country so don't be hypocritical.

 

[Xeric]

The only thing i can say to this khi dude is:

 

[Xeric]

Now I respect the common soldier

Oh, how gracious of you. i am obliged. How do you want that i should repay this favor back, sire?

 

[VCheng]

VCheng, how about i posted this Police gun down man in street, threaten to shoot witnesses for filming incident instead? See, but i didnt.

You have miscalculated me grossly.

I am continuously refining my calculations, and eventually I will arrive at the correct conclusions.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Now you people do the same thing America. If Bush or Obama is bad you people blame the whole country so don't be hypocritical.

Dude to be honest your comment are childish. we never said we hate america or Britain we said we hate their foreign policies and dont put words in our mouth

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Being a resident of Karachi -- you are aware, surely, that the youth activists of MQM and ANP are firing a lot more rounds of ammunition and killing people in the SCORES every single damned day in certain parts of that city

where's the outrage there? and why no talks about budgets there? Better yet -- why no censure on these political parties to end their ties and shut down these paid thugs --who drive around waving their political party flags, showing off their gang signs and displaying heavy arms and what have you?


these scapegoat tactics against Army (which has nothing to even do with the topic here) is pretty frustrating.....moreover, it's STUPID.

 

[Karachiite]

put un-diplomatically, Karachiite -- you have the bloody civilian administration to blame.

lets take a few steps back. What causes people to engage in theft in a city like Karachi (mobiles snatching, carjacking, ATM robberies etc.)? Who is responsible here for not just promoting law & order, but also maintaining some semblance of sound fiscal and economic policies that help steer an emerging market country like Pakistan out of the trouble it is facing?


or is that also Army job too?


i will ask you again, kindly elaborate your position on what you said in your last post.

In no shape or form am I protecting the current civilian government. They haven't done a great job but that doesn't mean the Army is supposed to be all relaxed and stuff. Im sorry but I cannot see my country being sold off for some American dollars and both the army and government are responsible for this.

And btw most people should know that I idolize Musharraf and Ayub Khan.

 

[Xeric]

Y I know the whole army isn't bad but the people that are bad which includes all the top men are brining a stain to the whole army.

Right!

And a Ranger's trigger-happy-rascal killing an alleged thief would support this claims of yours, right?

WTF are you smoking? Must be shyt, pour shyt, or else i know weed makes you more brainy!

Now you people do the same thing America. If Bush or Obama is bad you people blame the whole country so don't be hypocritical.

Double U Tee Eff!!!