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Ranger raids MQM.. Nine Zero

He was killed due to mishandling and Miscalculated move of Rangers not of MQM so whoever is involved most of its responsibilities lies with Rangers because they should have left Nine Zero as soon as they captured their culprits but rather they decided to go on with Ceiling Nine Zero and handing it over to Police and that is what causes that to happened in the first place so they share major Responsibility of his killing not the other way around.
Sealing my friend
And if there are illegal weapons found or illegal people found in the area the area is sealed. It is done everywhere because these are offences against the state.

Many of those Lyari Gangsters were also belongs to PPP especially they had been considered sons by your very own Zulfiqar Mirza. So its PPP has got their hands much more dirtier.
The Rangers never said they have stopped operations nor have they declared Karachi free of terrorists and target killers so do not be hasty in your judgement and trust the armed forces
 
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Sealing my friend
And if there are illegal weapons found or illegal people found in the area the area is sealed. It is done everywhere because these are offences against the state.
Did they even anticipated the REACTION before making the whole move on the first place???That is where things go wrong people over there have left Intimidating from sounds of Gun fires and types of Guns and despite of so much Cavalry Rangers couldnt able to control the situation instead Ran while leaving a CASUALTY there.

The Rangers never said they have stopped operations nor have they declared Karachi free of terrorists and target killers so do not be hasty in your judgement and trust the armed forces
Yesterday no shops got open despite of all the assurances and Guarantees of these Brave Rangers in Karachi so dont tell me that I am Hasty on my Judgement because People have either told them that things are NOT Under Control despite of 20 Years of Rangers being in Street or they have said that they are with MQM and Ichose the first Explanation of situation not being under Control despite of 20 Years of Rangers in Karachi street.
 
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Yesterday no shops got open despite of all the assurances and Guarantees of these Brave Rangers in Karachi so dont tell me that I am Hasty on my Judgement because People have either told them that things are NOT Under Control despite of 20 Years of Rangers being in Street or they have said that they are with MQM and Ichose the first Explanation of situation not being under Control despite of 20 Years of Rangers in Karachi street.
Now there is a resolve to end target killers. Political affiliations and fanatic belief will result in nothing because when you harbour criminals and weapons in your office you do not respect the law and lose the right to govern people. Let them keep the city closed, how long will they keep people living in fear. There will be a breaking point of target killers and MQM will have to part ways with the violent part of its party if it wishes to stay relevant.
Did they even anticipated the REACTION before making the whole move on the first place???That is where things go wrong people over there have left Intimidating from sounds of Gun fires and types of Guns and despite of so much Cavalry Rangers couldnt able to control the situation instead Ran while leaving a CASUALTY there.
One casualty and you forget the target killers found in the office, you support those target killers or do you accept that the party was wrong? answer directly as to what you think is right... The number of people killed by these target killers is justification enough to raid the offices. When you will harbour criminals in a common house you will have your door knocked down and will be arrested. What makes the political party office so special that they can keep killers there and face no penalties.
 
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MQM kills its own workers and cries the loudest at their graves. This case is no different. The alleged killer was looking for a confrontation. When that happened, he used it's cover to kill one of MQM's own laundas (for claiming victimhood, aka business as usual). If you look at the killer's intentions, you can see he planned to use the gate as cover to prevent the rangers from seeing him properly (his body wouldve also blocked the view of what his hands were doing), and then entering the compound swiftly to escape from the scene. Since the killer looks cocky enough to be a well placed/senior member (a retired target killer from the old days, i'd guess), nobody will step forward to name him out of fear. That combined with the general confusion that the aerial firing created, it's hardly surprising that he got away, let alone anyone who wasn't running for their lives saw him at all.
If 10% of those who were Confronting Rangers actually TOOK OUT WEAPONS then all of those Rangers wouldnt able to make it out of that area alive. So dont tell me about it because its quite obvious that the only once seen their CARING GUNS and USING GUNS are Rangers not MQM Protesters or Media people there. It was mishandling that cause this to happened and now even Rangers are Trying to do Cover up here because they have gone way out of line here and when they were Retreating one of their Sargent ACTUALLY used TT Pistol for Aerial Firing all you need to watch is last Rangers Car retreating from Nine Zero area.

Now there is a resolve to end target killers. Political affiliations and fanatic belief will result in nothing because when you harbour criminals and weapons in your office you do not respect the law and lose the right to govern people. Let them keep the city closed, how long will they keep people living in fear. There will be a breaking point of target killers and MQM will have to part ways with the violent part of its party if it wishes to stay relevant.
Rangers have been known for their History of PLANTING EVIDENCE in Karachi and that cause lives of 15000 people by some estimates so dont tell me Rangers have been all Angles through out in 20 Years so consider this FANATICAL but what I have seen is MQM has actually GAINED so much Sympathies within few hours here in Karachi which was taking so many Years to lose. So all this Situation has turned MQM back to same Position during 1990s when MQM was under Target.
 
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Rangers have been known for their History of PLANTING EVIDENCE in Karachi and that cause lives of 15000 people by some estimates so dont tell me Rangers have been all Angles through out in 20 Years so consider this FANATICAL but what I have seen is MQM has actually GAINED so much Sympathies within few hours here in Karachi which was taking so many Years to lose. So all this Situation has turned MQM back to same Position during 1990s when MQM was under Target.
Yes fanatical MQM followers will rally the rest of the people will not. Just like fanatical TTP supporters support target killing. I do not see any leinancy now based on political party it is time Karachi is made crime free and the first step is stopping weapons like the ones found and target killers into custody. Maybe the Rangers made those people up also some how... Go on fighting the Pakistani army no one is with you in Karachi other then those who live off MQM and its earnings.
 
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One casualty and you forget the target killers found in the office, you support those target killers or do you accept that the party was wrong? answer directly as to what you think is right... The number of people killed by these target killers is justification enough to raid the offices. When you will harbour criminals in a common house you will have your door knocked down and will be arrested. What makes the political party office so special that they can keep killers there and face no penalties.
That Casualty was an Innocent and for Target Killers then they should have left the area as soon as they Captured their Culprits that is what I am saying here or they had to bring something to Control Riots with them as well. There was no need for confrontation there but instead Rangers miscalculated and Stayed in their Position with all that Automatic Guns as their ONLY DEFENSE. What do you expect could happened???When they themselves mishandle the situation the consequences has to be faced by them as well.

Yes fanatical MQM followers will rally the rest of the people will not. Just like fanatical TTP supporters support target killing. I do not see any leinancy now based on political party it is time Karachi is made crime free and the first step is stopping weapons like the ones found and target killers into custody. Maybe the Rangers made those people up also some how... Go on fighting the Pakistani army no one is with you in Karachi other then those who live off MQM and its earnings.
Do you even have any idea how many of them in Karachi alone??like Fanatics from other Parties including PTI there are Huge number of them in MQM as well and at least those Fanatics were getting SANER day by day by Questioning MQM but now the whole wheels have turned back. MQM has Brought Shaheeds in thousands of Houses and that to by our Brave Law enforcement Authorities so Fanaticism is not that ODD thing to expect here unless Rangers are willing to go to a length that they never had Crossed even in 1990s against MQM.
 
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KARACHI: Life returned to normalcy in Karachi on Thursday as business and trade activities resumed, a day after strike-like situation in the metropolis following Rangers raid on Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) headquarters, Nine Zero, Samaa reported.
Karachi returns to normalcy
and the story will continue.. Right now the situation will change
That Casualty was an Innocent and for Target Killers then they should have left the area as soon as they Captured their Culprits that is what I am saying here or they had to bring something to Control Riots with them as well. There was no need for confrontation there but instead Rangers miscalculated and Stayed in their Position with all that Automatic Guns as their ONLY DEFENSE. What do you expect could happened???When they themselves mishandle the situation the consequences has to be faced by them as well.
they had to seal the area, collect evidence and see who else was there. So many unknown people could be target killers and terrorists, were they just supposed to let them go? How many radio sets were registered and how many automatic weapons were not even allowed to be in Pakistan. Wonder how they will be justified by the fanatics.... The problem is that MQM had target killers on its bank roll and they broke the law. They are as accountable as the common man. So stop acting like the raid was some sort of brutality it was what happens when you break the law... You want laws only to favor you which can not be the case
 
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they had to seal the area, collect evidence and see who else was there. So many unknown people could be target killers and terrorists, were they just supposed to let them go? How many radio sets were registered and how many automatic weapons were not even allowed to be in Pakistan. Wonder how they will be justified by the fanatics.... The problem is that MQM had target killers on its bank roll and they broke the law. They are as accountable as the common man. So stop acting like the raid was some sort of brutality it was what happens when you break the law... You want laws only to favor you which can not be the case
MQM is also Running Khidmat-e-Khalq Foundation Ambulance Services from the Same Head Quarters so that could be registered equipment of KKF . They have this explanation available. They have even said that themselves they have Licences of every weapons they had in Nine Zero and they can also Claim it to be PLANTED as well because that has happened before by very own Rangers so Rangers also have Controversies which can be easily Used against them and convince their Fanatics and even those who were turning away from them but now Sympathy have brought them back to MQM. Rangers had MARGINAL SUCCESSES in Operation since last one year but now they blew it by their over confidence that with their Marginal Success they can go anywhere or do anything they want but the reality is situation is far from peaceful and one little Flare is enough to turn things worse.
 
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This gazi dude seems to be trying too hard to side with the MQM. Even with total evidance here. Good job, blind sheep.
 
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This gazi dude seems to be trying too hard to side with the MQM. Even with total evidance here. Good job, blind sheep.
You can believe whatever you want you are welcome but what I am saying is what I have been OBSERVING since Yesterday first hand instead of relying on Media.
 
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MQM is also Running Khidmat-e-Khalq Foundation Ambulance Services from the Same Head Quarters so that could be registered equipment of KKF . They have this explanation available. They have even said that themselves they have Licences of every weapons they had in Nine Zero and they can also Claim it to be PLANTED as well because that has happened before by very own Rangers so Rangers also have Controversies which can be easily Used against them and convince their Fanatics and even those who were turning away from them but now Sympathy have brought them back to MQM. Rangers had MARGINAL SUCCESSES in Operation since last one year but now they blew it by their over confidence that with their Marginal Success they can go anywhere or do anything they want but the reality is situation is far from peaceful and one little Flare is enough to turn things worse.
near MQM main office and a few strong holds near Kala board maybe the rest of the people are quite happy that target killers and terrorists are being apprehended. Time to face justice for the people killed and the police targeted.

and yes automatic weapons are a requirement for charity work lots of automatic weapons and target killers also. wonderful
 
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You can believe whatever you want you are welcome but what I am saying is what I have been OBSERVING since Yesterday first hand instead of relying on Media.

I may, yes.
But it is not hard to believe what you see now, even though its from the media. (I dont rely on the media either).

As you're saying, that MQM is doing "something" good from in there.
Let me give you a better idea.

Everything has a disguise and what you're talking about right now is only what they want you to look at them like.
Bad faces yo, Bad faces.

never trust MQM.
They'll also kill you one day.

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Also to add,
The rangers know what they did and why.
It is a more complicated thing for people like you and me (who usually are just arm chair generals) can come up with.
 
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Did they even anticipated the REACTION before making the whole move on the first place???That is where things go wrong people over there have left Intimidating from sounds of Gun fires and types of Guns and despite of so much Cavalry Rangers couldnt able to control the situation instead Ran while leaving a CASUALTY there.

Yesterday no shops got open despite of all the assurances and Guarantees of these Brave Rangers in Karachi so dont tell me that I am Hasty on my Judgement because People have either told them that things are NOT Under Control despite of 20 Years of Rangers being in Street or they have said that they are with MQM and Ichose the first Explanation of situation not being under Control despite of 20 Years of Rangers in Karachi street.

Aren't you missing the point here? Let's examine facts here.

1. Convicted criminals were present inside Nine-Zero. Harbouring and sheltering criminals is a crime.
2. Illegal weapons in large quantity were found inside Nine Zero. Some of them sophisticated with scope and suppressors. Such weapons are not used of self defence. They are used for precision covert killings.
3. Farooq Sattar acknowledged presence of these arms and said they were for self defence. That was his first reaction. He also claimed they were licensed. MQM later changed its stance.
4. Altaf Hussain clearly acknowledged presence of law fugitives inside Nine-Zero. He said they should have taken refuge somewhere else.
5. Police, Rangers, Army and Intelligence agencies can and SHOULD raid any place where they have credible information of unlawful activity. They were well within their duty charter when they raided Nine-Zero.
6. Office of a poltical party is NOT a sacred place. Given the activities of political parties, I consider them to be least sacred. LEA CAN enter office of any poltical party on credible information and search nearby houses including that of party leader's relatives if they suspect unlawful activity. No one. NO ONE is above the law.
7. Supporters of MQM were protesting against Rangers who conducted successful raid on a place of criminal activity. I find it equates to supporting crime and I find it disturbing. Honestly.
8. After recovery of weapons and criminals, it was a crime scene. Rangers WILL and SHOULD seal a crime scene to protect evidence and formalities to complete. Demanding them to leave is equal to interference in execution of official duties, again a crime by law.
9. Search of entire Nine-Zero is part of their duties and this is done to a crime scene world over.
10. If unlawful acts are committed by other groups say PPP, ANP, JI etc it does NOT change the fact that Nine-Zero was used for unlawful activities. MQM is answerable to law what happens there.
11. MQM had erected barriers and made Nine-Zero a no-go area. This is unlawful. No civilised nation accepts it.

I am in full agreement with you that such raids should take place on all hubs of unlawful activity. But let's call it a start. Let's appreciate and I would say celebrate application of law on untouchables. No one should be untouchable including Altaf Hussain.
 
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near MQM main office and a few strong holds near Kala board maybe the rest of the people are quite happy that target killers and terrorists are being apprehended. Time to face justice for the people killed and the police targeted.
Near MQM main Head Office people are very very Blind Followers and in nearby Area is surrounded by Huge MQM support as well. Its not just Azizabad or Sharifabad which is MQM dominated but whole Central District which includes North Nazimabad and North Karachi as well and if we go further we join by Orangi Town which is WORSE in case of MQM fanaticism.
 
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Near MQM main Head Office people are very very Blind Followers and in nearby Area is surrounded by Huge MQM support as well. Its not just Azizabad or Sharifabad which is MQM dominated but whole Central District which includes North Nazimabad and North Karachi as well and if we go further we join by Orangi Town which is WORSE in case of MQM fanaticism.

The number of people arent above the law. No one is.
 
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