Rakhigarhi is possibly the biggest Harappan site, say archeologists.

[Kloitra]

My comment has nothing to do with race does shan believe in AIT idk maybe but I do not believe in AIT.

As for IVC sites in India I have done my research and I have spoken about this on many other threads on this topic. It is just funny how desperate some of your academics are.

Desperate?
It is ongoing research, like every researcher they would make certain claims about their discovery. Let their peers review it, and not try to be a scholar that you are not and pass judgement on them.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

My comment has nothing to do with race does shan believe in AIT idk maybe but I do not believe in AIT.

As for IVC sites in India I have done my research and I have spoken about this on many other threads on this topic. It is just funny how desperate some of your academics are.

The academics are not out to prove things to you. They have published their papers. Period.
You on the other hand seem desperate to prove them wrong. 'Prove' is not the correct word. You try to discredit their work for their nationality.
They are NOT bothered about you, unless you counter their points. You are bothered about them.

 

[KingMamba]

Going by Shan's comment,
Aryan were the ones who formed civilization centered around Ganga, which is also the widely accepted theory (my knowledge from PDF). Ancestors of Indians that Pakistanis generally refer to are Dravidian - people from Harrapa.



Borderline stupid, better off ignoring him.

He was being sarcastic lol my answer was to ravi based on what he asked me does not mean that is what shan was necessarily referring to lol you will have to ask him.

The academics are not out to prove things to you. They have published their papers. Period.
You on the other hand seem desperate to prove them wrong. 'Prove' is not the correct word. You try to discredit their work for their nationality.
They are NOT bothered about you, unless you counter their points. You are bothered about them.

Actually yes they are desperate or else they would not be making absurd assertions like they do.

Desperate?
It is ongoing research, like every researcher they would make certain claims about their discovery. Let their peers review it, and not try to be a scholar that you are not and pass judgement on them.

The problem with that is what I mentioned in my first post.

 

[Chronos]

I kinda like his racism. Not that I like racism per se. Also @Zarvan's bigotry. I go LOL
Kids may get hurt, but not most of us.

There are amusing posts and there posts you don;t get mad, but just go "WTF did I just read.'

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Rakhigarhi, the biggest Harappan site - The Hindu

Bigger than Mohenjo-daro, claims expert
The discovery of two more mounds in January at the Harappan site of Rakhigarhi in Hisar district, Haryana, has led to archaeologists establishing it as the biggest Harappan civilisation site. Until now, specialists in the Harappan civilisation had argued that Mohenjo-daro in Pakistan was the largest among the 2,000 Harappan sites known to exist in India, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The archaeological remains at Mohenjo-daro extend around 300 hectares. Mohenjo-daro, Harappa and Ganweriwala (all in Pakistan) and Rakhigarhi and Dholavira (both in India) are ranked as the first to the fifth biggest Harappan sites.

“With the discovery of two additional mounds, the total area of the Rakhigarhi site will be 350 hectares,” asserted Professor Vasant Shinde, Vice-Chancellor/Director, Deccan College Post-Graduate & Research Institute, a deemed-to-be university in Pune. The two mounds are in addition to the seven mounds already discovered at Rakhigarhi, about 160 km from New Delhi. The eighth and ninth mounds, spread over 25 hectares each, are situated to the east and west of the main site. Villagers have destroyed much of these two mounds for cultivation. A team of archaeology teachers and students of the Deccan College discovered them when they surveyed the site in January.

Dr. Shinde, a specialist in Harappan civilisation and Director of the current excavation at Rakhigarhi, called it “an important discovery.” He said: “Our discovery makes Rakhigarhi the biggest Harappan site, bigger than Mohenjo-daro. The two new mounds show that the Rakhigarhi site was quite extensive. They have the same material as the main site. So they are part of the main site. On the surface of mound nine, we noticed some burnt clay clots and circular furnaces, indicating this was the industrial area of the Harappan site of Rakhigarhi.”

Dr. Shinde had earlier led the excavations done by the Deccan College at the Harappan sites of Farmana, Girawad and Mitathal, all in Haryana.

On the surface of mound eight were found terracotta bangles, cakes, and pottery pieces, typical of the Harappan civilisation, said Nilesh P. Jadhav, Research Assistant, Department of Archaeology, Deccan College.

Artefacts found

From January 10, the Deccan College team has excavated five trenches on the slope of the mound four and another trench in the burial mound numbered seven. The excavation in mound four has yielded a cornucopia of artefacts, including a seal and a potsherd, both inscribed with the Harappan script; potsherds painted with concentric circles, fish-net designs, wavy patterns, floral designs and geometric designs; terracotta animal figurines, cakes, hopscotches and shell bangles, all belonging to the Mature Harappan phase of the civilisation. The five trenches have revealed residential rooms, a bathroom with a soak jar, drainages, a hearth, a platform etc … The residential rooms were built with mud bricks. The complex revealed different structural phases, said Kanti Pawar, assistant professor, Department of Archaeology, Deccan College.

Much of the Harappan site at Rakhigarhi lies buried under the present-day village, with several hundreds of houses built on the archaeological remains. The villagers’ main occupation is cultivation of wheat and mustard, and rearing of buffaloes.

Making cow dung cakes is a flourishing industry. There is rampant encroachment on all the mounds despite the Archaeological Survey of India fencing them. Amarendra Nath of the ASI had excavated the Rakhigarhi site from 1997 to 2000.

An important problem about the Harappan civilisation is the origin of its culture, Dr. Shinde said. The Harappan civilisation had three phases: the early Harappan from circa 3,500 BCE to circa 2,600 BCE, the mature Harappan which lasted from circa 2,600 BCE to circa 2000 BCE, and the late Harappan from circa 2000 BCE to 1,600 BCE.

Dr. Shinde said: “It was earlier thought that the origin of the early Harappan phase took place in Sind, in present-day Pakistan, because many sites had not been discovered then. In the last ten years, we have discovered many sites in this part [Haryana] and there are at least five Harappan sites such as Kunal, Bhirrana, Farmana, Girawad and Mitathal, which are producing early dates and where the early Harappan phase could go back to 5000 BCE. We want to confirm it. Rakhigarhi is an ideal candidate to believe that the beginning of the Harappan civilisation took place in the Ghaggar basin in Haryana and it gradually grew from here. If we get the confirmation, it will be interesting because the origin would have taken place in the Ghaggar basin in India and slowly moved to the Indus valley. That is one of the important aims of our current excavation at Rakhigarhi.”

We are debating the political implications, while the most interesting part of this discovery is this -
This place is too far from the Indus river. And multiple mounds suggest that their must have been a water source nearby - most probably confirming the Saraswati/Ghaggar hypothesis. Whether it originated here and branched out is too early to say, but future excavations will shed light.

Before jumping on me, know one thing - no country can claim some historical site and allow it to go unchallenged. Once the discovery is made, Indologists from all around the world will flock to this new site to see for themselves. Archaeological experts are usually not so blinded by current rivalries. After extensive work of months, the final acceptable verdict will be out.

We will wait.

Actually yes they are desperate or else they would not be making absurd assertions like they do.

And Logic and reasoning died a painful death.
Assertions need to be made - only then can they be analyzed. How can a claim be tested if it's not even made?
Ok fine. Let's not turn this into a mud slinging fest.

 

[KingMamba]

There are amusing posts and there posts you don;t get mad, but just go "WTF did I just read.'

He is a bad *** he called Indians chamars so many times that a real chamar signed up to pdf.

 

[venu309]

There are amusing posts and there posts you don;t get mad, but just go "WTF did I just read.'

That's because either the guy doesn't think before he writes or he is an absolute Moron.

 

[Chronos]

He is a bad *** he called Indians chamars so many times that a real chamar signed up to pdf.

Forgive my ignorance.

What's a Chamar? and why is that an insult

 

[Roybot]

We are debating the political implications, while the most interesting part of this discovery is this -
This place is too far from the Indus river. And multiple mounds suggest that their must have been a water source nearby - most probably confirming the Saraswati/Ghaggar hypothesis. Whether it originated here and branched out is too early to say, but future excavations will shed light.

Its not really, barely 200-250 km away from Harappa site, not very far fetched.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

It's close to the dried up saraswati river

 

[Janmejay]

He is a bad *** he called Indians chamars so many times that a real chamar signed up to pdf.

Now thats a good joke
By the way you were reffering to @Hermione Werent you??

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Its not really, barely 200-250 km away from Harappa site, not very far fetched.

That's a huge distance! Provided they did not have bullet trains!
Ghakkar Saraswati...closer

 

[punit]

Amazing to observe .. pakistani getting their nickers in twist over an Archaeological excavation !!

 

[KingMamba]

Now thats a good joke
By the way you were reffering to @Hermione Werent you??

Is she chamar? No I am referring to a new member his id is Indian chamar or lion chamar something like that.

Its not really, barely 200-250 km away from Harappa site, not very far fetched.

Lol yeah just a 3 hour flight on Air India no?

 

[RazPaK]

Loving the yendian identity crisis on this thread.