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@UKBengali @war&peace Are there any plan or roadmap for Pakistan & Bangladesh to develop civil passenger airplane in the future?
Pakistan is more focussed on developing fighterjets. She is currently involved in the development of JF-17 program with its different variants and blocks and has already embarked upon next gen (5th gen or 5.5 gen) aircraft for PAF indigenuously but that may require JV-ventures and for that Turkey, Russia and China may act as collaborators in various phases and/or for systems. Once we have developed the core capability, Pakistan should move towards development of civilian aerospace industry and that is where Indonesia and China can be helpful.
 
No concrete plans as of yet but BD is currently building UAVS which will slowly build up it's aerospace capabilities.

What's the prospect for 19, 50, and 70 seater turboprop aircraft in Bangladesh? Are there big enough market for this kind of plane there?

Pakistan is more focussed on developing fighterjets. She is currently involved in the development of JF-17 program with its different variants and blocks and has already embarked upon next gen (5th gen or 5.5 gen) aircraft for PAF indigenuously but that may require JV-ventures and for that Turkey, Russia and China may act as collaborators in various phases and/or for systems. Once we have developed the core capability, Pakistan should move towards development of civilian aerospace industry and that is where Indonesia and China can be helpful.

Cool, our main partner for jet fighter is Korea with the development of KFX/IFX. We also plan to buy more Golden Eagle FA/50 in the future to replace Hawk 109 in our current inventory to strengthen our cooperation with Korea and get technological transfer as much as we could.

As for civilian transport aircraft, this is the game changer for Indonesian aerospace industry, since our market is huge. So we need to dominate and take benefit from our own market as soon as possible.
 
What's the prospect for 19, 50, and 70 seater turboprop aircraft in Bangladesh? Are there big enough market for this kind of plane there?

There is a growing market in BD for these types of jets.

BD's strong growth and rapid increases in wages means the demand is constantly increasing.
 
There is a growing market in BD for these types of jets. BD's strong growth and rapid increases in wages means the demand is constantly increasing.

Nice, maybe our respective aviation industry could make some sort of cooperation in the future to develop and provide this kind of plane for Bangladesh market.
 
Nice, maybe our respective aviation industry could make some sort of cooperation in the future to develop and provide this type of plane for Bangladesh market.

If Indonesia can make competitive jets, then BD airlines will definitely place orders.
 
If Indonesia can make competitive jets, then BD airlines will definitely place orders.

Right, furthermore we still have to test it's worth by serving our national link first and ensure their safety and performance before even think to export them to others :D
 
Right, furthermore we still have to test it's worth by serving our national link first and ensure their safety and performance before even think to export them to others :D
hopefully, we built our TURBOFAN passenger plane.. we should compete with Japan MRJ or Bombardier... :D

KAI and PT DI to Develop Passenger Jets
January 27, 2016adminInternational


Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) has launched a project to develop passenger jets, a market that has long been dominated by Boeing and Airbus, sources said Wednesday.

“We are seeking to make a foray into the commercial airplane market through a joint project with an Indonesian defense firm,” a KAI official told The Korea Times.

The move comes at a time when Boeing and Airbus face challenges from China, which recently unveiled a commercial airliner.

Beijing’s state-owned Commercial Aircraft of China, or Comac, delivered its first of 30 ARJ21 passenger aircraft to Chengdu Airlines in late November.

Comac is also pushing to develop a larger jetliner, the C919, with targets efficiency levels comparable with those of the Airbus A320neo and Boeing 737 MAX, according to local media. A prototype of the 158-to-174 seater was unveiled in early November.

In order to join the race, KAI signed a Strategic Cooperation Agreement (SCA) with Indonesia’s state-run PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI), Dec. 4, the company said.


KAI KC 100 Naraon
Under the deal, the two companies will strengthen collaboration in the defense aviation industry, but also work toward making commercial airplanes.

The Indonesian company is already participating in Korea’s domestic KF-X fighter jet development project.

PTDI has experience in developing its own 50-seater N-250 and the 100-seater N-2130 civil aircraft in the 1990s, while KAI has successfully developed military aircraft such as the T-50 supersonic trainer and the FA-50 light-combat aircraft.

“It will be a win-win for both parties, as each can help the other in their respective areas of technological superiority,” said the official.

He noted that the two companies plan to meet twice a year to discuss their cooperation in the development of a civilian jetliner and other aircraft including drones.

“The first meeting will take place within the first half of this year,” he said.


PT DI N-250 (photo : Kaskus Militer)
He added that the feasibility study to figure out potential demand for civilian aircraft will also take place, saying, “Securing demand in the domestic markets of both Korea and Indonesia is our preliminary goal.”

From 2008 to 2013, KAI developed the four-seat, low-wing, single-engine KC-100 Naraon that was marked as the nation’s first passenger plane. The Naraon is expected to enter service this year.

KAI President and CEO Ha Sung-yong said last year that taking the commercialization of Naraon as an opportunity, KAI will make efforts to attain its ambition to develop and produce a 100-seater passenger plane.

The move apparently comes because sales of civilian aircraft account for almost 80 percent of the world aviation market, so there is a limit to focusing only on the defense aviation industry.


*koreatimes.co.kr/defense-studies
 
hopefully, we built our TURBOFAN passenger plane.. we should compete with Japan MRJ or Bombardier...
One step at a time. For turbofan, we could share the burden of development with Korea later :D

From 2008 to 2013, KAI developed the four-seat, low-wing, single-engine KC-100 Naraon that was marked as the nation’s first passenger plane. The Naraon is expected to enter service this year.
Crazy, Korea need 6 years to develop this small passenger aircraft. That's why they need our expertise.
 
China is very much ahead of Indonesia in aerospace but this is good to see.

This is secret, actually a country in Asia is interested on our N-2130 (or N 250 design-I forget which one) blue print design in early 2000. That country wants to buy the design. I dont think the nation is Singapore or Malaysia who dont have descent aircraft manufacturing capability. Singapore is more on maintenance and Malaysia just produce parts, not entire fuselage (medium or big aircraft).



http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/indonesia/n2130.htm

N2130 Regional Jet


Companies considering a regional jet (or participation in a program) include PT Industri Pesawat Terbang Nusantara (IPTN) of Indonesia. Indonesia has indicated its desire to bring to market the IPTN-designed N-2130 turbofan, a 104- to 132-seat aircraft that began as an outgrowth of its N-250 turboprop. The N250 turboprop carrier was the pride of Indonesia. Coming exactly a week before the 50th anniversary of Indonesia's declaration of independence from the Dutch, the first flight of the N-250 turboprop in August 1995 brimmed with symbolism. The successful first flight for Indonesia's new N-250 commercial airplane led to an announcement of a plan for a mid-range jet aircraft to be finished in 2003 or 2004. Experts said the new, $2 billion plan was even more ambitious, entering a fiercely competitive arena. Habibie's son, a former Boeing engineer, was to head it up.

The N2130 Technology Program (NTP) was launched in October 1994 as a market and product-definition study. The NTP team was headed by Habibie's eldest son, Ilham, and consists of IPTN's younger, so-called "second generation", design engineers and managers. Its work was to be concluded by March 1997, with the drafting of the aircraft's design requirements and objectives.
 
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The country that interested and tried to purchase N 2130 design were china....thank god we refused it
 
The country that interested and tried to purchase N 2130 design were china....thank god we refused it
But for now we are lagging so far behind China in aircraft manufacturing capability.. :D

One step at a time. For turbofan, we could share the burden of development with Korea later :D


Crazy, Korea need 6 years to develop this small passenger aircraft. That's why they need our expertise.
Hehehe.. actually in passenger plane Indonesia has more experience than South Korea.. but we have no money.. :D
 
The R80 will be designed to enter the market in 2021.
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http://redaksi.co.id/78200/ilham-akbar-habibie-keren-r80-siap-terbang-2021.html
 
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