Featured Rahul Gandhi admits that Muslims/Dalits not considered humans in India

[Chakar The Great]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1315119655720153089

 

[masterchief_mirza]

And how long did it finally take Congress to admit the reality of the Secular Republic? 73 years?

One party admits to the hate. The other party covers the hate up whenever a camera is rolling. Whadda great secular republic!

 

[hussain0216]

Jinnah tried to explain this to all Indians 70 years ago including Congress


South Asia would be at peace with multiple nations if Partition was conducted PROPERLY


Now we have a India brimming with poison and toxicity and hate

Partition of India is the only way, a hindutva extremist India is intolerable

 

[jamahir]

And PDF Hindutvadis will descend on this thread and deride Rahul Gandhi by calling him "Pappu" and what not.

Jinnah tried to explain this to all Indians 70 years ago including Congress

South Asia would be at peace with multiple nations if Partition was conducted PROPERLY

Now we have a India brimming with poison and toxicity and hate

Partition of India is the only way, a hindutva extremist India is intolerable

You are wrong to say that it was Jinnah who first spoke about TNT. It was the Hindutvadis. I quote Shashi Tharoor who's an Indian politician in the Congress party :

Speaking at the session 'Shashi on Shashi' with Micheal Dwyer on Day 2 of the Jaipur Literature Festival (JLF), Mr Tharoor claimed that the Hindutva movement started by Vinayak Damodar Savarkar categorically rejected the Constitution.

He said that for Savarkar, a Hindu was one for whom India was his fatherland and holy land. Muslims and Christians were not considered in this.

"Savarkar, Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar and Deen Dyal Upadhay rejected the constitution and in fact agreed with the Muslims that religion should determine nationhood. In the historical sense, the first advocate of the two-nation theory was actually Savarkar, who as the head of the Hindu Mahasabha called upon India to recognise Hindus and Muslims as part of two separate nations three years before the Pakistan Muslim League passed the Pakistan Resolution in Lahore in 1940," he said.

Mr Tharoor further said that according to them, the Constitution was full of imported ideas written in the wrong language - English.

"Another flaw they pointed out was that it assumes that the nation of India is a territory and it's (constitution) written for all the people on the territory. Nation is not a territory but its people and the people of India are only Hindus," he said.

 

[peagle]

And PDF Hindutvadis will descend on this thread and deride Rahul Gandhi by calling him "Pappu" and what not.



You are wrong to say that it was Jinnah who first spoke about TNT. It was the Hindutvadis. I quote Shashi Tharoor who's an Indian politician in the Congress party :

Can someone please explain the opposition to the two nation theory with logic, not sound bites. I've never been able to understand why it is so problematic in India. Is India a historical nation?

I used to love listening to Tharoor, until he became a politician, now he is an empty head, too many holes in his logic.

Two nation theory in it's simplest term can be said to have various starting points, if taken at face value. One could be when the Hindus started a movement against the spread of Urdu in the early to mid 19th century, or when sir Syed Ahmed started awakening the Muslims because as a nation they were being left behind, or when Allama Iqbal realised the Muslims of British India need to be protected politically, and it was finalised when Jinnah recognised enough was enough.

Sarvarkar as an ideological baby started to grow during the 1920's, long after other events, and the constitution of India was written after Indian independence, so rejection of it has no influence in the timeline of events.

India was and is a Hindu nation, it cannot be denied, especially now.
Religion always plays a part in creation of an identity, even when you declare yourself to be secular, you are still recognising the existence of religion.

Take Turkey as an example, for the past 20 years or so, it was a likely candidate for the membership of the European Union. The Turks have changed their laws, policies and even their constitution to comply with European requirements, but they were not accept, always asked for more, because it is a Muslim majority country. It would have disturbed the Christian heritage of Europe.
In the meantime, they have accepted every third rate, backward East European country, those countries have Christian majorities, it cannot be more clear. Religion always has, still does and always will play an important part of individual, ethnic or national identities. to ignore it is a folly, and you get what you are now getting in India.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Jinnah tried to explain this to all Indians 70 years ago including Congress


South Asia would be at peace with multiple nations if Partition was conducted PROPERLY


Now we have a India brimming with poison and toxicity and hate

Partition of India is the only way, a hindutva extremist India is intolerable

He actually tried to explain ALL the above nearly 80 years ago. Not 70 years ago.

Can someone please explain the opposition to the two nation theory with logic, not sound bites. I've never been able to understand why it is so problematic in India. Is India a historical nation?

I used to love listening to Tharoor, until he became a politician, now he is an empty head, too may holes in his logic.

Two nation theory in it's simplest term can be said to have various starting points, if taken at face value. One could be when the Hindus started a movement against the spread of Urdu in the early to mid 19th century, or when sir Syed Ahmed started awakening the Muslims because as a nation they were being left behind, or when Allama Iqbal realised the Muslims of British India need to be protected politically, and it was finalised when Jinnah recognised enough was enough.

Sarvarkar as an ideological baby started to grow during the 1920's, long after other events, and the constitution of India was written after Indian independence, so rejection of it has no influence in the timeline of events.

India was and is a Hindu nation, it cannot be denied, especially now.
Religion always plays a part in creation of an identity, even when you declare yourself to be secular, you are still recognising the existence of religion.

Take Turkey as an example, for the past 20 years or so, it was a likely candidate for the membership of the European Union. The Turks have changed their laws, policies and even their constitution to comply with European requirements, but they were not accept, always asked for more, because it is a Muslim majority country. It would have disturbed the Christian heritage of Europe.
In the meantime, they have accepted every third rate, backward East European country, those countries have Christian majorities, it cannot be more clear. Religion always has, still does and always will play an important part of individual, ethnic or nation identities. to ignore it is a folly, and you get what you are now getting in India.

The ACTUAL reason is that those Eastern European nations are RACIALLY the same as the nations of Western and Northern Europe. They are in essence the SAME people, SAME religion and heritage. Turkey differs to the rest of Europe in terms of BOTH race AND religion. They ONLY differ in terms of language and some customs. Nothing else.

 

[-=virus=-]

His nefarious plan to cause riots having failed, Ghandy boy lashes out on the twitters, what an absolute moron..

only religious sunnis (jamaati types, NOT shia or bohra or ismaili, ahmedi etc) and communist dalits (bhim army types and JNU college kids etc)

have a problem with India (Hindus/dharmis)

and India has a problem with them

so please stop using misleading terms like "minorities"

the "minorities" are doing great

the hardcore communists and mullahs ? not so much.. and it's only going to get much much worse for them

a uniform civil code is coming

as is a population control law

deal with it

 

[jamahir]

His nefarious plan to cause riots having failed, Ghandy boy lashes out on the twitters, what an absolute moron..

One vocal Hindutvadi who liberally uses "Moron" is that foul-mouthed woman Shubhrastha. Do you really want to be in her company ?

the hardcore communists and mullahs ? not so much.. and it's only going to get much much worse for them

I am a communist. And also a mullah ( according to some PDF Hindutvadis ). If the PDF Hindutvadis are proudly Hindutvadi why can't I be a "communist mullah" ?

a uniform civil code is coming

About the Uniform Civil Code, what exact laws do you foresee ?

 

[jamahir]

Is India a historical nation?

I am not much of a fan of history but I know of two things about India. (a) The Mughals had both Lahore and Delhi within their dominion. (b) I think, Tipu Sultan, with French assistance, wanted to gain governance of all of India, including what is today Pakistan.

Take Turkey as an example, for the past 20 years or so, it was a likely candidate for the membership of the European Union. The Turks have changed their laws, policies and even their constitution to comply with European requirements, but they were not accept, always asked for more, because it is a Muslim majority country. It would have disturbed the Christian heritage of Europe.

In the meantime, they have accepted every third rate, backward East European country, those countries have Christian majorities, it cannot be more clear.

I agree. But Turkey is also at fault at rejecting a place within the Eastern bloc, I think before of historical Turk-Rus antagonism.

 

[fitpOsitive]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1315119655720153089

The question is, what are lower caste Hindu leaders doing at the moment?

 

[manga]

lol desparation level in this thread is very high if you are required to clinge to the statement made by pappu.

And yea the women in the said incident was not raped, and pappu with his lackeys again made a fool of themselves.
But they are so shameless that they dont feel that embarassment anymore.

 

[hualushui]

Jinnah tried to explain this to all Indians 70 years ago including Congress


South Asia would be at peace with multiple nations if Partition was conducted PROPERLY


Now we have a India brimming with poison and toxicity and hate

Partition of India is the only way, a hindutva extremist India is intolerable

Jinnah was fooled by Nehru. It was clear that an agreement had been reached, but Nehru tore up the agreement at the press conference the next day because Nehru thought he could force Jinnah to continue to make concessions.
Jinnah believes that Nehru is a person with no credibility, so there is no need to continue negotiations.

 

[Mugwop]

lol desparation level in this thread is very high if you are required to clinge to the statement made by pappu.

And yea the women in the said incident was not raped, and pappu with his lackeys again made a fool of themselves.
But they are so shameless that they dont feel that embarassment anymore.

Rape or no rape
What he says is true! Your fellow countrymen have proved it with their posts and views.

 

[Rakesh]

Jinnah was fooled by Nehru. It was clear that an agreement had been reached, but Nehru tore up the agreement at the press conference the next day because Nehru thought he could force Jinnah to continue to make concessions.
Jinnah believes that Nehru is a person with no credibility, so there is no need to continue negotiations.

Demands were impractical. It was better to have independent Pakistan rather than dominion under India with so many impractical arrangements.

 

[manga]

Rape or no rape
What he says is true! Your fellow countrymen have proved it with their posts and views.

Many indian muslims have insulted your leaders for poking nose in our affairs, but you guyz still dont mend the ways. You dont want me to put a video of indian muslim insulting musarraf on a live show , do you ?

Your fellow countrymen

My fellow indian muslims are sayng they are blessed to be in india than the country which i am not going to name here.