RAF Challenge Indian Air Force 'Whitewash' Claims

[Sulman Badshah]

Indian media organisations are carrying reports of the Indian Air Force (IAF) "dominating" the Royal Air Force during a recent bilateral air combat exercise.

A resounding score of "12-0" was conceded to the IAF Su-30's during the initial dogfighting stages of Within Visual Range (WVR) encounters.







Sources from the RAF state, however, that Indian planes were being 'bedded in' to new terrain and effectively shown the ropes. The RAF were "introducing them to the airspace", putting the Typhoons up against the Sukhois in something more akin to a pigeon-shooting exercise, rather than a combat exercise, so the Indian pilots could get their bearings.

Once the IAF were comfortable flying in foreign air space the Large Force Exercises (LFEs) began and subsequently the RAF Typhoons proved more than a match for the Indian SU-30's.

Speaking to Forces TV an RAF spokesman offered a polite rebuttal to the claims in the Indian press, saying:

"Our analysis does not match what has been reported, RAF pilots and the Typhoon performed well throughout the exercise, with and against the Indian Air Force."

"Both nations learnt a great deal from the exercise and the RAF look forward to the next opportunity to train alongside the IAF."

The Large Force Engagements saw 4 v 4 engagements at beyond visual range and graduated to a massive 8 v 8 engagement featuring 16 aircraft in the skies near Coningsby.

Asked about the performance of IAF pilots in these Large Force Engagements, Group Captain Srivastav told NDTV his pilots performed "fairly well" though "quantifying [the results] is difficult".

 

[HariPrasad]

All right. These type of unnecessary score of 12-0 etc are funny. That can spoil the relationship between the 2 countries and airforce. The statement stating that our pilot had done a god Job was enough.

 

[Arsalan]

All right. Thee type of unnecessary score of 12-0 etc are fummy. That can spoil the relationship between the 2 countries and air force. The statement stating that our pilot had done a god Job was enough.

AND the image of IAF, once debunked!

 

[[Bregs]]

This was bound to happen as the media has given absurd reasoning of this news.

 

[Chanakya's_Chant]

This was bound to happen as the media has given absurd reasoning of this news.

All right. Thee type of unnecessary score of 12-0 etc are fummy. That can spoil the relationship between the 2 countries and airforce. The statement stating that our pilot had done a god Job was enough.

Not sure why and where the propaganda with "we made cream soup of EFT" is coming from. The SU-30 us one of the best planes out there but to say that the EFT got smashed is a pretty "feel good" statement.

Nothing new in such reports from both the sides - Earlier when the MKI's were supposedly "whacked" in 2011 - The RAF officer ended up endorsing EFT's in the middle of the MMRCA negotiations in which EFT and Rafale were shortlisted.

'British Typhoons whacked India's Sukhois in joint exercises' | TwoCircles.net

 

[Star Wars]

Indian media organisations are carrying reports of the Indian Air Force (IAF) "dominating" the Royal Air Force during a recent bilateral air combat exercise.

A resounding score of "12-0" was conceded to the IAF Su-30's during the initial dogfighting stages of Within Visual Range (WVR) encounters.







Sources from the RAF state, however, that Indian planes were being 'bedded in' to new terrain and effectively shown the ropes. The RAF were "introducing them to the airspace", putting the Typhoons up against the Sukhois in something more akin to a pigeon-shooting exercise, rather than a combat exercise, so the Indian pilots could get their bearings.

Once the IAF were comfortable flying in foreign air space the Large Force Exercises (LFEs) began and subsequently the RAF Typhoons proved more than a match for the Indian SU-30's.

Speaking to Forces TV an RAF spokesman offered a polite rebuttal to the claims in the Indian press, saying:

"Our analysis does not match what has been reported, RAF pilots and the Typhoon performed well throughout the exercise, with and against the Indian Air Force."

"Both nations learnt a great deal from the exercise and the RAF look forward to the next opportunity to train alongside the IAF."

The Large Force Engagements saw 4 v 4 engagements at beyond visual range and graduated to a massive 8 v 8 engagement featuring 16 aircraft in the skies near Coningsby.

Asked about the performance of IAF pilots in these Large Force Engagements, Group Captain Srivastav told NDTV his pilots performed "fairly well" though "quantifying [the results] is difficult".

Whats the source ?

edit, this is it
RAF Challenge Indian Air Force 'Whitewash' Claims | Forces TV

IAF never had any official claims of 12-0, this is what IAF pilot really said

Asked about the performance of IAF pilots in these Large Force Engagements, Group Captain Srivastav told NDTV his pilots performed "fairly well" though "quantifying [the results] is difficult"."

 

[Guynextdoor2]

yeah....the said first that all the news was BS and now they're saying only some of the news was BS coz we were helping them 'get acclimatized'

As usual, lies and chest thumping from such a fraud nation.

Thank you for calling Britain a fraud nation....

 

[AUz]

Because some pilots told on camera they did something....guess terrorism is not the only thing you're in denial about.

No.

Pilots said it. World saw it. Data proves it!

Go to ACIG.org (Most reliable international database of "confirmed" kills in modern warfare) and check it by yourself.

PAF dominates iaf in every way...

 

[slapshot]

compulsive liars

 

[Imran Khan]

every time big mouthing is not good

 

[Stephen Cohen]

SU 30 MKI is just very very good and our Pakistani FRIENDS do not like this fact

 

[Srinivas]

Did that twice already...that too in real wars.

Remember the video of 65' where PAF pilots were laughing and telling BBC that iaf jets are falling like flies from air and that they(PAF boys) needed more competition...LOL!

PAF humiliated iaf at various times..

It is very easy to side with USAF, train with them, buy their equipment,learn their tactics and show your skills during wars. India on the other hand is lacking in good fighter jets and support equipment. Nothing comes close to USAF defense toys.

Every one can do that, Pakistan is no exception.

every time big mouthing is not good

Yes British can do loud mouthing about IAF in 2011.

IAF is right in proclaiming that IAF pilots and Su 30 MKI did well in the exercises.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

SU 30 MKI has exercised with ALL the TOP planes in the world right now

F 15 and F 16 of USA ; Rafale of France and Eurofighter of UK

 

[Donatello]

yeah....the said first that all the news was BS and now they're saying only some of the news was BS coz we were helping them 'get acclimatized'



Thank you for calling Britain a fraud nation....

If you didn't notice, the Brits didn't even bother....only media highlighting their fake bravado.

 

[bloo]