Racism against Azerbaijani Turks in Iran

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

Lol you don't even know what that means. Just get that translated and you will see. Ottomans never made and wouldn't even make jokes like that so stop talking rubbish. There was small problems with türkmen tribes sometimes in those times that's all.


Aslı Türk, nesli Türk Osmanlı'yız biz.

Now get this translated and see how stupid what you just said is.

Well I searched for some translations, it means brainless/ignorant Turks in this context.

Why did they hate this turkmens? (who are one of purest Turks)

Is it true that these terms were also used against them by Ottomans?

türk-ü sütürk(azgın türk) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Horny turk??!
türk-bed lika(çirkin yüzlü türk) >>>>>>>>>>>>> ugly faced Turk
nadan türk(kaba,cahil türk) >>>>>>>>>>>>> rude/ignorant Turk

 

[Yabgu]

What you on about? Did you translate what I wrote...

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

The Ottoman rulers were themselves originally Turkic nomads from Turkmenistan that immigrated to Anatolia less than 1000 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmanoğlu_family

It does not make sense.

It is strange given that Iranians are such mixed people and themselves have plenty of Turkic and Mongol admixture more than any other "Middle Eastern" population.

Besides Azeri Turks being the second biggest minority group in Iran.

Hassani few facts for you about Iranian turks, who are mainly azeris (16-18% of Iran).

The so called azeri "turks" of Iran spoke persian-like language not so long time ago... What happened to them, they melted away like the snow??? i don;t think so.

Interestingly enough, the 17th-century Ottoman Turkish traveler Evliya Chelebi who traveled to Safavid Iran also states: "The majority of the women in Maragheh converse in Pahlavi"

Hamdallah Mostawafi writing in the 1340s calls the language of Maraqa as "modified Pahlavi"(Pahlavi-ye Mughayyar). Mostowafi calls the language of Zanjan (Pahlavi-ye Raast).

According to Professor. Richard Frye: Azari was a major Iranian language and the original language of Azerbaijan region and Azari gradually lost its stature as the prevalent language by the end of the 14th century

According to Jean During, the inhabitants of Tabriz did not speak Turkish in the 15th century.
The language of Tabriz, being an Iranian language, was not the standard Khurasani dari. Qatran Tabrizi (11th century) has an interesting couplet mentioning this fact:[21]
“
بلبل به سان مطرب بیدل فراز گل
گه پارسی نوازد، گاهی زند دری

Translation: The nightingale is on top of the flower like a minstrel who has lost her/his heart It bemoans sometimes in Parsi (Persian) and sometimes in Dari (Khurasani Persian)

Besides these facts, compare genetical influence from turco-mongols of east on Iran... 0%.. they had barely influence on those who are known as Turks of anatolia today, then forget about Turkic genes in Iran.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

What you on about? Did you translate what I wrote...

yes, Ottomans called Turkmens as:

türk-ü sütürk(azgın türk) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Horny turk??!
türk-bed lika(çirkin yüzlü türk) >>>>>>>>>>>>> ugly faced Turk
nadan türk(kaba,cahil türk) >>>>>>>>>>>>> rude/ignorant Turk
etraki bi edrak >>>>>>>>>>>>> brainless/ignorant

These are the facts, and I think it's important for Iranians not to fall for these turkish propaganda who call persians racists against azeris. This is one of the arguments against such false propaganda used by some extremist turks or turkish movements

 

[MertKaan]

Hassani few facts for you about Iranian turks, who are mainly azeris (16-18% of Iran).

The so called azeri "turks" of Iran spoke persian-like language not so long time ago... What happened to them, they melted away like the snow??? i don;t think so.

Besides these facts, compare genetical influence from turco-mongols of east on Iran... 0%.. they had barely influence on those who are known as Turks of anatolia today, then forget about Turkic genes in Iran.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

@<u><a href="http://www.defence.pk/forums/member.php?u=13093" target="_blank">kalu_miah</a></u> thanking all the posts of his Arab masters.

DAMN you JattPunjabi.. you reminded me of something ahahahah
This Kalu_miah guy reminds me of Ernie

I gave sources from historians... please don't use pics, meme when someone shows clear arguments that persian related languages was spoken there in tabriz and maragheh till 500 to 350 years ago.

 

[MertKaan]

I gave sources from historians... please don't use pics, meme when someone shows clear arguments that persian related languages was spoken there in tabriz and maragheh till 500 to 350 years ago.

so what ? This thread about racisim aganist turks in iran . Your words proved that You are racist .I dont care what do you think about turks in iran . But if you want to speak history of turks in azerbaijan you have to speak with @gr8vision.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

so what ? This thread about racisim aganist turks in iran . Your words proved that You are racist .I dont care what do you think about turks in iran . But if you want to speak history of turks in azerbaijan you have to speak with @gr8vision.

What was racist about what I said?

 

[Sun Piwa]

JEW Sun Piwa who PRETENDS to be MUSLIM but is ZIONISTI JEW is fake who want to make MUSLIMINS look bad.

From FRANCE who had ZIONIST Sarkozy and now the HOLLANDE in charge

HOLLANDE? more like YAHUDLLANDE

Beware of Sun Piwa the JEW

Typicall JEW BS, in Palestina there are JEWS too. Sometimes destroying people's houses

 

[Sun Piwa]

Keep quite you Semite and MOSSAD AGENT! Non-"Aryan" master race and non Central Asian nomad!



This is correct. Even a Iranian Mullah spoke about how bad the Iranians treated their Afghan Shia "brothers and sisters".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNpiZJF1yIg

At least he spoke about it so credit to him.

Where does this Persian anti-Turkish jokes come from? Do you know it Charon?

Obvious MOSSAD lies detected, he speaks good

Thank you MOSSAD crotale to show how good is an iranian heart, contrary to the wahabit arabs killers with their car bombs

You are the typicall case where a pyromaniac get burnt, because i've dowloaded the video & will share it

 

[Takaavar]

How ironic, I ROFLed after seeing this thread cause the one who started it is officially a racist of the highest degree

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

The sad thing is that there is nothing you can do or Iran can to stop us from butchering the terrorists
Tell me, how does it feel like seeing your own brothers and sisters in such situation?

[/url] image hosting software[/IMG]

 

[al-Hasani]

I don't listen to false Farsi Wikipedia propaganda but real historical sources. Anyway you gave me a nice laugh.

Or just Bahrain. What a ride that was. The self-proclaimed Arab Mullah's were nowhere to be seen despite the barking. As usual. Probably still suffering from the after effects of Saddam Hussein's invasion.

&#x202b;

 

[Türkiye]

I hope Iran gets liberated from these Fascist Iranian shi ites and Iran becomes land where Turkish people can live in peacefully. I also hope Israel gets liberated from Zionists where my Arab Palestinian brothers can live peacefully..

Turks and Arabs are brothers. Iranians are Zionists are enemies of Islam and the World will not be in peace until they are destroyed

 

[Charon]

Safavid direct lineage were from kurds, it's proven already. Later, with their migration to Azerbayjan part of Iran, they mixed with Azeri, greek, georgian, and possibly also persians. They were a mixed dynasty whose ancestors came from Kurdistan.

How was Shah Ismail a Kurd? He couldn't even speak Kurdish. Sorry but there was nothing Kurdish about the Safavid empire. Shah Ismails mother tongue was Azerbaijani Turkish but he could also of course speak Persian. The military of the Safavid empire who had a great impact on the empire were Turkmen tribes named Qizilbashs. Shah ismails grandfather was Uzun Hassan who was a Turkmen Sultan of the Aq Qoyunlu dynasty which ruled Iran. Shah Ismail is considered an important figure in the literary history of the Azerbaijani language and he also left 1400 verses in his language compared to only 50 verses in the Persian language